Which midfielder should Moyes buy ?
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We were after 3 players. Hazard - winger, Kagawa - attacking midfielder and Van Persie - striker. We clearly wanted to add the strength in these places. It would be not very logical if we would go after striker, just because we failed to sign a winger. Zaha was a true answer to unsuccessful signing of Hazard/Lucas.
I totally agree that time is running out for the new manager, in this window as he just got to know his new team but as Berbatov's example showed, Moyes and Woody can still get something from this summer. Still, it needs to be supported with actions, especially in midfield department.
We have until Monday, September 2nd
Seems like theres a bit of dissemination going on concerning not buying any players. Rio and G Nev mentioning it in the last day or two.
Probably because that's slowly becoming one of the more realistic scenarios.
Sir Alex many times said, he's happy with what he already got but 19 days is still a reasonable time to make a bid/bids in no bigger hurry.
*clears throat*
Messi has pulled out "injured" from international duty.
It's well and truly ON!!!
DM looks like a man that must be 100% of the player before he make an official interest and spend moneys.Nothing bad, being careful in his first days but he already stated that, we're short in midfield... Not a bad start.
Nothing bad, being careful in his first days but he already stated that, we're short in midfield... Not a bad start.
He did that, lest we forget. So, while he says he's happy with the squad I doubt he's 100% content with his CM options.
Of course, it could be that the way he intends to line up will make the shortage less obvious: The more of a 4-3-3 (of sorts) he opts for, the more plausible our present options become: One might argue that all of Cleverley, Anderson and Giggs (if we include him as a CM, which I guess we should as he was used as such by Fergie) are better suited for such a system.
But we still have but one really, undeniably top shelf central midfielder. And he is the only one who is a proper defensive midfielder at that. It would baffle me considerably if Moyes doesn't realize how dangerously weak we look if you remove Carrick from the equation. Fergie must have realized this too - but he gambled and won. I wouldn't recommend keeping on gambling, though. It's in the nature of the thing that you'll end up losing sooner or later.
Moyes didn't scout midfielders at Everton and none of the scouts from the old regime are left or left reports on players?
Manchester United and Chelsea on alert as Real Madrid's Sami Khedira offered to PSG
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/422335/Manchester-United-and-Chelsea-on-alert-as-Real-Madrid-s-Sami-Khedira-offered-to-PSG?
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/422335/Manchester-United-and-Chelsea-on-alert-as-Real-Madrid-s-Sami-Khedira-offered-to-PSG?
Not sure about him. He's very good though.
Answer: any, I'm fed up of even thinking about it
Khedira wouldn't be percect and I'm not even sure he'd be a better option than Cleverley long term (he's far better at the minute though) but he'd still be fine just to make up the numbers. If we can't get genuine quality and that seems to be the case with the lack of available options then we should be going for the second tier like Khedira, Fellaini etc.
I do wonder if Neville and Round were there to watch Veloso
Can play CM or LB
Can play CM or LB
Doubt it, he's really disappeared over the years, now plying his trade at Dinamo Kiev who aren't even in the Champions League.
Nonsense. Totally different players, impossible to compare.
Not really. RvP is totally different to Cleverley too, I can safely say RvP is better. Khedira is definitely better than Cleverley atm.
He's gettable, and provides cover for carrick and evra
One is a supposed defensive midfielder who runs a lot, the other is a supposed creative midfielder who runs a lot and can pass a ball. They're both midfielders who look better while paired with someone better defensively though so can be compared for their potential use for the team.
He's also a pretty poor player who won't be an improvement over Fabio at left back and probably even Jones at defensive midfield.
Obviously he is in certain aspects but its not like were suddenly going to use Cleverley as a defensive midfielder. In terms of Cleverleys actually position hes a superior player than him. Put Khedira in a more advanced role and expect the guile and touch of a more instinctive role and we'd quickly see who's better.
I say this as a fan of Khedira btw.
You're obviously right as regards different roles, etc. Khedira would not be an upgrade on Cleverley in certain areas. But would he be an upgrade in general? I'd say clearly so. He is currently the better player, i.e. he is a better DM/CM than Cleverley is an AM/CM. Put it like this: If I wanted to do something about what has been called - aptly enough - our "porous" central midfield, Khedira would come in very handy. Much handier than Cleverley.
Khedira + Fellaini would be sweet
Bit overkill to get both I'd say. Khediera would be a good option if we could get him. Then would look for a creative player if possible personally.
If Moyes like fergie was looking for a midfielder who can play as part of a two running up and down, a box to box player there are not many.
Khedira would be a good buy. Khedira/Carrick/Kagawa wouldn't be all that different from Khedira/Alonso/Ozil, really.
This squad is crying out for a one on one ball winning midfielder. I don't know how anyone could ignore it.
Fellani. I wanted him to be signed for ages and thought Moyes would bring him no question. Surprised it hasn't
Fellaini was good today. Possibly poor for the first goal but he was a bit wrong footed due to the ball bobbling all over the shop and it broke for Whittaker nicely.
Fellaini, Modric in and Anderson Out.
Well, it is clear we need at least one badly
If Carrick got injured then we would be in a bit of situation, also on today's performance Cleverly looked poor especially his passing so it is vital we get a DM and possibly someone like a Fabregas/Modric.
Any chance Axel Witsel will be available?
Could you imagine Fellaini and Vidic in the same team?
I'd personally prefer one (or two) that could dominate possession better.
He went for a large fee and will be on high wages, so I shouldn't think so. That's the trouble with moving to Russia.
Wasn't sure if he was with the Russian outfit that are having a fire sale cheers mate!
Nope, he plays for Zenit (as does Hulk) and it's Anzhi that are having the clear out. It's a shame because he's a cracking player and if he was at Benfica he'd be the perfect player to be looking at.
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