This.
"Where's your famous Munich song?"
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Ashwin (@AR87) discuss the last 3 matches - a mixed bag with 1 win, 1 draw and 1 loss.
They discuss what signs of progress we are seeing under Amorim - should we expect more by now? And the spotlight falls on Dorgu, Onana and Hojlund.
The podcast finishes with previews of the 2 cup games Vs Fulham and Real Sociedad.
This.
Superb input from a lady who follows Liverpool in the comments there.... the two Liverpool fans who did the aeroplane gesture had just "had enough" apparently. The goading from United fans all day and singing while they did YAWN pushed them over the edge.
I love football.
I love football.
even more stupid to respond to goading by a few morons.
it was an emotional day. Fantastic gestures all round by both sets of supporters.
When teh football started, the passion was understandable.
I agree with the lifetime ban suggestion.
Just stop it already.
it was an emotional day. Fantastic gestures all round by both sets of supporters.
When teh football started, the passion was understandable.
I agree with the lifetime ban suggestion.
Just stop it already.
I don't understand why chanting "United! United!" during YAWN has caused such offence. And how is is disrespectful?
Yeah, that's horseshit. It's not a minute's silence.
All the articles I keep reading say it all kicked off after the game, not much is being said about things happening during the game. I guess I am reading the wrong articles.
"...reminders of the Merseyside club's own recent tragedies in Hillsborough and Heysel"
When are people giong to get their heads round the fact that Heysel wasn't in any sense "Liverpool's tragedy"?
It isn't. Scousers are falling over themselves to be offended now.
For the fans that died at Hillsborough, the families that were affected by it, and their campaign for justice all 100% have my respect and support.
But the other moaning whingers are starting to overplay their hand now.
This.
Watching it on TV, I couldn't help which set of fans wer the ones behaving antagonistically and disrespectfully - the ones chanting the name of their own club, or the ones flicking them the Vs for doing so...
Scousers offended by feck all shocker. We always chant through YAWN and always will. Now feck off back to your relegation scrap and stop crying like massive massive Fannys
fecking sick of their bollocks to be honest.
The sheer and utter hypocrisy of their fans is infuriating. Now I'm not condoning our fans behaviour one minute but they present their argument like they are the purest of the pure and that they can take the moral high ground on matters such as this.
People in glass houses and all that.....
If there was a trophy for finding shit to moan about they'd be nailed on.
Can't see how reminding Liverpool fans of how they have made light of the Munich tragedy for decades can be considered offensive?
And yes I agree they do need to realize that they were not the victims at Heysel.
And yes I agree they do need to realize that they were not the victims at Heysel.
Not only that, they also passed the blame off to Chelsea fans and the National Front. Nothing is ever their fault. Nothing.
They are the biggest bunch of hypocrites in football. They masquerade as mawkish, pious, overemotional diehards - and no doubt that's part of their persona - but there's a rotten element that runs through their hardcore support, who know deep down what happened at Heysel and cynically deflect and continue to deflect from what they done. In truth it's clever. The media buy into this greatest fans in the world, a magic night at Anfield etc, deliberately refusing to highlight the nasty element of their fans in case they get attacked by the online skaus mafia, jumping at the chance to claim there's an agenda against their club. You only have to look at the list of banned media organisations on the RAWK website to see their insane bunker mentality. At least as United fans we acknowledge we have a sinister, sometimes scummy, element to our away support.
Could not of put it better myself. The fact that they deny any blame for Heysel is a bit like me buying a dodgy car whose brakes were faulty and then killing a group of people on the pavement, and then try to say it was the car's fault.
To be honest, I think it's more a few Liverpool fans, then any rational football fan. Booing it would be a bit different, but when they sing YAWN, what should we do? Join in? Be respectfully silent whilst our players absorb the atmosphere THEIR fans are creating? Or we could sing about our own team which everyone said we should, and we did.
That line is fecking me right off. How is it their tragedy? In fairness, a load of their fans died due to police incompetence, which was proceeded by a 23-year cover up, and for that, they have my sympathy.
I also hate when it's called the Heysel Stadium Disaster. Heysel Stadium Massacre would be more appropriate. Heysel, wasn't their fault. 'It was Chelsea fans, it was the NF, it wasn't us.' Suarez racially abuses Evra. 'It wasn't Suarez's fault, they talk like that in South America, maybe Evra, the black wanker, shouldn't get so offended by it. What? They sang about us being victims?!?!?'
Only trophy they have got a cat in hells chance of winning
Nah, it's their worst start in a 100 years.
They were right about something.
Agree with this, where would it stop? Should United fans stay silent every time YAWN is sung during a game?
Sympathy and respects to the families of Hillsborough and Munich is all that should be expected. Other than that, both sides will never ever give sympathy. Why the feck should we give sympathy to those self-pitying swiney cnuts? Haven't once met a red scouser that I'd give the time of day. Seems to impact their basic fundamental functions to be a human being.
I know I shouldn't, but this was a comment on that sky sports link. Ban BOTH teams from Europe. That'll teach them.....
I'm sure the scousers will be annoyed by a Champions League Ban...
Liverpool are in Europe this year. And also Liverpool won silverware more recently than we did.
Some of you are strange.
Some of you are strange.
I know if it was United in that tinpot cup I'd be wishing we were knocked out of it. It was a stupid comment on so many levels, and why you are mentioning recent Liverpool silverware I don't know. What has a league cup got to do with anything mentioned?
So now it's strange to laugh at the suggestion that Untied and Liverpool should be kicked out of the Prem and Europe.....Come on Robo.
So now it's strange to laugh at the suggestion that Untied and Liverpool should be kicked out of the Prem and Europe.....Come on Robo.
No, just, the video of United fans chanting during the match gets ignored and the thread essentially turns to slagging Liverpool off. Right, gotcha, except we all knew that the average Liverpool supporter wasn't going to suddenly be a soccer mum.. or some better analogy.
They are cnuts, they have always been cnuts. That element exists in most football clubs around Britain today and has done for as long as anybody knows. If you pick at random, 100 british men then the likelihood is that a good percentage of them will be detestable cnuts. Stick 30,000 in the same building and voila; every football club has cnuts.
Who cares about Liverpool's? Yes they will do every little thing to piss off United including making airplanes and then acting all hurt when we react. Expected.
Doesn't stop the Hillsborough campaign needing respect. If there was ever a time to ignore 'pool's shite it was on sunday. Let the cameras see Liverpool for what they really are whilst we are whiter than white. United fans failed in doing that so lets not pretend it's anything other than what it is.
Good post, robo.
Where exactly has any of your little rant got anything at all to do with me laughing at a comment by an asshole on the SkySports website? It's not even a comment from a Liverpool or United fan (I assume) so I really don't see where you are going with this.
Is it me, or do most people sound a bit thick in this thread? I think it's disgraceful our fans couldn't have kept their idiotic gobs shut, not sung through YAWN and respected the occasion. Hillsborough just as easily could have happened to our club and if you had just a single braincell between the lot of you, then you would have kept your bloody gobs shut.
Of course it's disgraceful. However, some people can't be reasoned with; they won't even listen to 'their' club's managers.
As much as I deride the 'never your fault' in reference to Hillsborough, it hits the nail on the head when it comes to Liverpool fans in general.
After the game, my facebook wall was littered with scousers giving out about United fans singing the song after the game. Yet here we are a day later reading about the horrendous abuse Mark Halsey was subjected to by scousers on twitter yesterday. 'Always the victim, never your fault' is 100% accurate when it comes to scousers, I'm afraid.
Or even better, what's that 'ashamed of nothing' saying??
After the game, my facebook wall was littered with scousers giving out about United fans singing the song after the game. Yet here we are a day later reading about the horrendous abuse Mark Halsey was subjected to by scousers on twitter yesterday. 'Always the victim, never your fault' is 100% accurate when it comes to scousers, I'm afraid.
Or even better, what's that 'ashamed of nothing' saying??
I dunno mate, I really don't. When you think of English teams being banned from Europe, a certain horrific event comes to mind. Call me cynical but this is ulterior motive after ulterior motive (not from you mind, the original poster of that).
Airplanes and "where is your song", back and forth and round and round. It's dizzying, I don't understand how people think it can ever stop unless they are willing to stop it. Gary Neville said it before the match, as did Sir Alex. The idea is to make it akin to singing racist chants; you don't do it just because the opposition does.
By the way I wasn't aiming anything at you, just pointing things out and thinking allowed.
I just think it's near-impossible for United & Liverpool fans to set their hatred aside, unfortunately.
I have 100% no problem with our fans shouting United during YAWN. It wasn't a minutes silence that they had to respect. During the period of applause for the dead they (as far as I could see on the telly) all respectfully applauded. Once YAWN starts it's fair game for the lads to chant about their own club in my mind. You can disagree, but it's not really enough to say it's a disgrace. Any fans chanting ATV or murderers in response to a few wankers doing the airplane gestures were idiots, and should have stayed quiet, but to suggest that United and Liverpool should be kicked out of the League and Europe because of it is fantasy stuff and deserves to be mocked. Especially when it's likely someone shit stirring.
True that! I haven't watched that video yet cos I'm at work, but I'll have a look when I get home.
As I said, all this chanting about the dead should stop, but no way were our lads wrong to chant United during YAWN.
It was pathetic mate.
I felt sick when I heard it. Very poor form. Was it so difficult to behave for one day
I think it's important to distinguish what was pathetic and what wasn't. Chanting United while Liverpool fans sang a football song is perfectly OK, the abuse at the end was a total let down though.
I'd agree with this, also while there is no disputing the ATV chant after the game (provocation or not). Are we 100% sure about the chant for this thread title?!
I heard "Wheres your famous atmosphere" .... feck all about famous Munich song from our away end?