Well Suarez didn't spin on the top of his head for the first pen, so there's a difference right there. It was about as over the top a reaction someone could possibly pull off, in response to be tripped over.
Agree the first pen was softer.
What is Luis Suarez worth?
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Well Suarez didn't spin on the top of his head for the first pen, so there's a difference right there. It was about as over the top a reaction someone could possibly pull off, in response to be tripped over.
Agree the first pen was softer.
It really makes no difference if his reaction is over the top, both were clear pens.
Football has been going the way of non contact for years. Not just the players mentioned above but all players.
I never said the refs cant make mistakes. I just don't see the point in Suarez's reputation for simulation excusing a mistake or three by Webb. As for your "human nature," argument I would say that it's human nature to want to win so does that justify simulation in your view?
Again I've mentioned this above but he gave a softer penalty a few minutes before this and his positioning on the second penalty wasn't bad. He just bottled it IMHO.
In your opinion? I'm hardly outraged. I'm posting in the Luis Suarez thread about a penalty he didn't get.
I think it's brilliant that Webb stitched the cnut up again
If you're playing the con game then I've actually got no real complaints about Webb deciding not to give it.
Over the top reactions usually imply a player's faking it.
It's deliberate cheating to sway the ref into giving something and it makes the ref's job more difficult.
Tough fecking luck if the ref doesn't give it to the cheating, diving racist.
Of course it makes a difference. An exaggerated response to contact will also make a referee more likely to think that he is getting conned.
It makes no difference to whether or not the referee should give a pen, it clearly influences whether or not he will give a pen.
So his reaction negates the trip? That just doesn't make sense to me.
It makes a lot of sense.
Jaysus. I'm not sure I can make myself any clearer.
His reaction influences the perception of events by the referee. Surely that makes sense to you?
I can recall an incident earlier in the season where Suarez was tripped in the box and he managed to get a shot off after being tripped and no penalty was awarded for that incident either so it didn't make sense in that incident either.
Do you think it was a bad decision though?
Of course. Is anyone saying any different?
I thought the only issue being debated here was whether Suarez is partly to blame for what happened by making such a meal of the challenge? (along with his track record of conning referees in the past)
I don't agree that it was the over reaction that stopped the award of the penalty just the fact that it was a big decision in the game and Webb bottled it.
I don't think Webb was going to give a penalty even if Suarez hadn't rolled around. Webb refs context, not the actual incident - it's why he's the worst ref in England and an absolute shithouse. In the first few minutes of games, the last few minutes and right after a big call you can get away with murder under him.
Boo fecking hoo.
http://metro.co.uk/2014/02/16/luis-...k-from-his-gran-after-family-bust-up-4306113/
Evicted his gran from her house.
Must be the black one the dippers kept banging on about during the Evra case.
Evicted his gran from her house.
Must be the black one the dippers kept banging on about during the Evra case.
Of course it was a penalty it was Suarez reputation preceding him, these poor hard done to scousers would see their CB take a 6" gash out of a players leg and put it down to him deserving it for being a diving fanny.
Suarez is a diving fanny, the worst in the league and as such makes it more and more difficult to award him anything, even stone wallers like yesterday gives officials an element of doubt, where we're the referees assistants ? We're they all convinced he had gone over easy ......again.
Webb was standing on top of the incident.
As much as a player like Suarez gives you during a season his acting and diving is going to cost you every now and again, take it or leave it situation, we had it with Ronaldo and took it, we have it with Young but I would much rather leave it.
For every penalty Suarez dives to win there's bound to be a legitimate penalty he won't receive. These things have a way of evening themselves out.
I would say Suarez is up on the deal kid, if every situation where he's engineered some sort of advantage is evened out Liverpool would probably be relegated.
Just wait 'til he fecks off to Madrid.
Loving this hahaha might have already been posted
https://vine.co/v/M73iYj5DbqB
Seriously Webb must just be sick of players trying to con him, so when Suarez does this and what he did a couple of mins before after the Podolski tackle, Webb has to got to not want to give him decisions. The STATE of him
https://vine.co/v/M73iYj5DbqB
Seriously Webb must just be sick of players trying to con him, so when Suarez does this and what he did a couple of mins before after the Podolski tackle, Webb has to got to not want to give him decisions. The STATE of him
He was...
And from Webb's angle, he sees two players going shoulder to shoulder before Suarez suddenly does a bit of break-dancing.
I agree that it was a penalty but I don't blame Webb for not giving it after seeing it from his angle. He obviously feels Suarez is trying to con him.
Break dancing. 
When has he dived?
Wait, what?
It's that head flick-back that fecks him over.
He was in uber-cheat mode yesterday. Every 2 minutes he was feigning injury or pretending to have been cut in half.
He was in uber-cheat mode yesterday. Every 2 minutes he was feigning injury or pretending to have been cut in half.
Any excuse to post this again.
He blatantly sticks his leg into the defender, was no need toHe was...
And from Webb's angle, he sees two players going shoulder to shoulder before Suarez suddenly does a bit of break-dancing.
I agree that it was a penalty but I don't blame Webb for not giving it after seeing it from his angle. He obviously feels Suarez is trying to con him.
All Webb needs to see is Suarez get to the ball first. He has a perfect angle on it. If Ox misses the ball then it's a pen. He bottled it.He was...
And from Webb's angle, he sees two players going shoulder to shoulder before Suarez suddenly does a bit of break-dancing.
I agree that it was a penalty but I don't blame Webb for not giving it after seeing it from his angle. He obviously feels Suarez is trying to con him.
Webb either had to give a pen or a yellow to Suarez the fact he opted out of both shows he is a complete coward.
There are a few things wrong with the above statement. Ox isn't a defender and missed the ball in an attempted tackle. The after roll is ridiculous but its a clear pen.
That move, when he flips on his neck, it's fantastic!
And to the 'when has he dived' comment, even he admitted to diving in certain instances!
And
to the 'when has he dived' comment, even he admitted to diving in certain instances!That move, when he flips on his neck, it's fantastic!
And
This season i'm talking about
Probably once?
Certainly not anywhere near the regularity of Young or even Januzaj,
The correct option would have been to do both.
Referees are trained to look for exaggerated reactions to fouls, especially in the area. If you really are fouled and he realizes you've gone over the top, he'll be unlikely to give it.
Never heard of this. Have you done a refs course?