What if Liverpool win the league this year?

Sparky10Legend said:
Sooner or later we will buy a wc player/or 2/3 who will have the balls to take the league by the scruff of the neck.

Happened with Citeh/Blackburn/PSG/Chelsea etc etc etc, will happen with us.

Never said it was the only solution, but its the most successful one.

@RedMouse (sorry only way i can answer, out of posts)

In respect of money ruining the game?

We bought Robbo in 1980 - Real bought........

Nothing has changed, only figures. LFC dont complain when they rape Southampton every summer?
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it's not the most successful solution at all. you need only look at us under Fergie to see that, or Barca vs. Real the last 10 years, or Liverpool right now, or Leicester last year, or Dortmund vs Bayern under Klopp, etc. etc.

There's so much more to it than "let's spend more money than them" and it's frustrating to see us think that pumping out shitloads is the solution to our woes.
 
johnny boy said:
Absolute rubbish. Firmino is both quick and quick in thinking too, his hold up play is good, his movement, team work and link up play are first class.
He scores goals and sets them up for others too. Clearly you are clueless about him.

Your Coutinho comments seem to refer to him cutting in onto his right and scoring a cracking goal - well that is some trick! To say he scores the same goals is laughable!
He has been inconsistent but you obviously haven't seen much of him this season, his pace, passing, vision and team play have been sublime.
He scores goals (different types), and has a real creative influence on the team.

You are just too biased and childish to have an open mind about it.
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His opinions on anything LFC are absolutely risible. God only knows how he made the mains when you read his posts.

MOTD Shearer, (yeah I know) !, focused on Firmino playing the traditional Centre Forward role against Watford. He highlighted how he could perform all of the aspects of the role to a high level. Holding it up, linking the play, winning headers & running in behind. It was interesting to see his performance broken down like that.

Whoscored has 3 LFC players in the TOp 5 ratings so far this season (1st Countino, 3rd Firmino, 5th Mane).

  • Sadio Mane has scored in five goals in his five Premier League appearances at Anfield for Liverpool.
  • Philippe Coutinho has had a hand in eight goals in his last seven PL appearances for Liverpool (three goals, five assists).
  • Similarly, Roberto Firmino has scored five times and assisted three goals in his last seven league games for Liverpool.
  • Coutinho has been involved 53 PL goals since making his debut in February 2013 (level with Sturridge).
  • Watford have conceded more goals today v Liverpool (6) than they had in their last six PL games combined (5).
  • Adam Lallana has recorded five assists this season, with only Kevin De Bruyne providing more in the Premier League this season (6).
  • Liverpool are averaging 19.1 shots per game – the highest in the Premier League and the third highest in Europe’s top five leagues behind Real Madrid (20.3) and Roma (19.6)
  • Liverpool boast European football’s most potent attack – with an average of 7.8 shots per game hitting the target (next highest in the Premier League is Chelsea with 6.4)
  • Liverpool are the Premier League’s top scorers with 30; four ahead of nearest rivals Chelsea
  • Liverpool are averaging 58% possession – the second highest in the Premier League behind Man City (61.1%)
  • According to whoscored.com ratings, Liverpool have three of the top five players in the Premier League this season (Coutinho 1st, Firmino 3rd, Mane 5th)
  • And finally, Liverpool are top of the Premier League at the end of a day for the first time since May 2014 – 916 days ago.
 
Indeed mate.

I did see what Shearer said about Firmino, I don't always listen to what these pundits say but I was interested to hear what he said about his hold up play. It's not something Firmino gets a lot of credit for.
 
Jaybomb said:
And I haven't changed my mind. Both players are in good form at the minute but good form doesn't last forever. Eventually the quality in your side will shine through and looking at the squad on paper, it's just a bunch of midtable players really. It'll only take one loss to break your momentum and send the team into panic mode. Happens every time with Liverpool.
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Must try harder. C+
 
God, I'll just scream for a minute or two. Then I'll be fine, and will start to enjoy summer. There's work to be done in the garden still.
 
Saw on Facebook the other day that Liverpool fans had started a petition to end the season early... so we clearly start a petition to make the season longer!
 
bio202 said:
Think you have some great players with the possibility of being right up there but your team isn't a team right now and that is down to mourinho.

Forget about Klopp and look at Conte, he's been with Chelsea and has had the same time as mourinho yet Chelsea are playing with their managers vision. These same Chelsea players that played under mourinho and didn't look like they could beat an egg.

You can shout about being the best team in paper all you like. Fact is, mourinho is coming out with stuff already. Some players don't want to die for the shirt, it's a mare for me in Manchester etc. Think most opposition fans thought he come out with this kind of comment in year 2/3. I would guess even some utd fans thought the same.

I also noticed you commented about mourinho and klopps failure at Chelsea and bvb. Yes, both had difficult seasons but only one made any semblance of a recovery.

Back on topic, I make Chelsea favourites and Liverpool a top four candidate only before you cry foul and shout delusion. I think utd are still in it btw but you need to get your act together sharpish.
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The same Mourinho that won the league with Chelsea with that exact same side? Who's to say that he wouldn't have turned it around during last season and challenged this year with them again? Nobody. Chelsea are a joke club who even sacked a manager 4 months after winning a CL/FA Cup DOUBLE. Any Chelsea fan will tell you that Jose is their best manager ever. The board treated him with no respect. Just like all their other previous managers.

Klopp said a similar thing about Sturridge last year and nobody batted an eye. Liverpool fans slate Mourinho for isolating Schweinsteiger and yet Klopp is doing the same thing to Sakho.

Mourinho is right anyway. The players are not playing for the shirt. They didn't play for it under Moyes and at times they weren't playing for it under Van Gaal. Now we finally have a manager who's cut out for the job and somebody who isn't afraid to say these things and make decisions.

Liverpool fans' bias towards Mourinho is hilarious. I can't wait till he wins the league now.
 
Klopper76 said:
You know he just called your club a joke within the same post right?
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Oh gosh thats hurtful really. How will I ever get over a rival fan calling my club a joke.

Wait a sec, your club is called a joke as well maybe you could help me out here.

Never mind, since your club is actually a joke.
 
AshfordLad said:
Oh gosh thats hurtful really. How will I ever get over a rival fan calling my club a joke.

Wait a sec, your club is called a joke as well maybe you could help me out here.

Never mind, since your club is actually a joke.
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You and Jaybomb are made for each other.
 
Jaybomb said:
The same Mourinho that won the league with Chelsea with that exact same side? Who's to say that he wouldn't have turned it around during last season and challenged this year with them again? Nobody. Chelsea are a joke club who even sacked a manager 4 months after winning a CL/FA Cup DOUBLE. Any Chelsea fan will tell you that Jose is their best manager ever. The board treated him with no respect. Just like all their other previous managers.

Klopp said a similar thing about Sturridge last year and nobody batted an eye. Liverpool fans slate Mourinho for isolating Schweinsteiger and yet Klopp is doing the same thing to Sakho.

Mourinho is right anyway. The players are not playing for the shirt. They didn't play for it under Moyes and at times they weren't playing for it under Van Gaal. Now we finally have a manager who's cut out for the job and somebody who isn't afraid to say these things and make decisions.

Liverpool fans' bias towards Mourinho is hilarious. I can't wait till he wins the league now.
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I was also comparing Conte to mourinho and the time scale but OK we'll ignore that part.

Credit to him for winning it the year before but you really think he would have turned Chelsea around his last year? It was a mess with players in open revolt.

The point I was trying to make was that some events are repeating themselves with regard to criticism of players.
I'm really not having a go at mou, I would like him to stay with Utd as I don't want you end up with simeone. I also, in the interest of fairness stated that you still have a shot but that you had to get your act together quickly.

Look, it just my opinion and I'm really not arsed to be honest. You're happy with mourinho, then great but I don't think I was bias towards mourinho. Simply stating my thoughts.

Nearly missed your point...
I agree with you about stuge to a point, Klopp did have a pop at him and up-to now it's hard to see if it's worked apart from his effort on Sunday which I think you could describe as determined. Only difference I can see is Klopp was criticising from a position of strength in that he had other players ahead of studge whereas mourinho needs his at this time. Will be interesting to see how smalling and Shaw respond.
 
Barring a pepocalypse, they won't.
 
Pep is having the worst run of his career and still just 2 points behind. In all likelihood City will pull through.
 
bio202 said:
I was also comparing Conte to mourinho and the time scale but OK we'll ignore that part.

Credit to him for winning it the year before but you really think he would have turned Chelsea around his last year? It was a mess with players in open revolt.

The point I was trying to make was that some events are repeating themselves with regard to criticism of players.
I'm really not having a go at mou, I would like him to stay with Utd as I don't want you end up with simeone. I also, in the interest of fairness stated that you still have a shot but that you had to get your act together quickly.

Look, it just my opinion and I'm really not arsed to be honest. You're happy with mourinho, then great but I don't think I was bias towards mourinho. Simply stating my thoughts.

Nearly missed your point...
I agree with you about stuge to a point, Klopp did have a pop at him and up-to now it's hard to see if it's worked apart from his effort on Sunday which I think you could describe as determined. Only difference I can see is Klopp was criticising from a position of strength in that he had other players ahead of studge whereas mourinho needs his at this time. Will be interesting to see how smalling and Shaw respond.
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Guus Hiddink didn't exactly get the best out of them either. They only improved this season when they got Kante and Luiz.... So how was it all on Mourinho? That's a load of rubbish. The players were just in poor form and Chelsea didn't allow Mourinho to write the season off and start again. In my opinion, he should have been given that considering he JUST won the league and EFL Cup with them. Theres a reason some of their fans were in tears when he got sacked.

As for Shaw and Smalling... I couldn't give a toss if they take it the wrong way and exit the club. I trust in Jose. I'd sooner sack the entire squad before sacking him.
 
Jaybomb said:
Guus Hiddink didn't exactly get the best out of them either. They only improved this season when they got Kante and Luiz.... So how was it all on Mourinho? That's a load of rubbish. The players were just in poor form and Chelsea didn't allow Mourinho to write the season off and start again. In my opinion, he should have been given that considering he JUST won the league and EFL Cup with them. Theres a reason some of their fans were in tears when he got sacked.

As for Shaw and Smalling... I couldn't give a toss if they take it the wrong way and exit the club. I trust in Jose. I'd sooner sack the entire squad before sacking him.
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Since the start of last season Mourinho's victories in the league have been against:

WBA
Arsenal
Villa
Norwich
Bournemouth
Southampton
Hull
Leicester
Swansea

9 wins in 27 games against mostly cannon fodder. I also trust Jose. 33% win rate.
 
PickledRed said:
Since the start of last season Mourinho's victories in the league have been against:

WBA
Arsenal
Villa
Norwich
Bournemouth
Southampton
Hull
Leicester
Swansea

9 wins in 27 games against mostly cannon fodder. I also trust Jose. 33% win rate.
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"Since the start of last season"... so basically you're just picking a bad period and using it to suit yourself. How about judging his win rate at United?

I'm sure Klopp's numbers since his dire season at Dortmund look good. Losing 3 finals and all that.
 
Jaybomb said:
"Since the start of last season"... so basically you're just picking a bad period and using it to suit yourself. How about judging his win rate at United?

I'm sure Klopp's numbers since his dire season at Dortmund look good. Losing 3 finals and all that.
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5 wins in 11 this season. 45%

I take it back. Nothing to worry about. And he's doing against top quality opposition as well.
 
Remove the 'What if'. They are gonna win it this year. All the polls and the odds are against them.
 
Then we'll congratulate them and challenge ourselves to better everyone next season, of course. :confused:
 
izec said:
Brexit, Trump, Liverpool. It is inevitable. I feel like puking.
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Brexit, Trump.. yeah, I'm with ya, but then Liverpool? It strikes a huge dissonant chord. Insert Man Utd instead ( corporate giant, fans banging on about share prices, marketability, TV revenues, new sources of income ) and it all makes sense.
 
Ruffian said:
Brexit, Trump.. yeah, I'm with ya, but then Liverpool? It strikes a huge dissonant chord. Insert Man Utd instead ( corporate giant, fans banging on about share prices, marketability, TV revenues, new sources of income ) and it all makes sense.
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More in terms of huge blows. The other two are for some people more political blows (some are happy), but for United fans Liverpool winning the title would be another one.
 
If this is looking on I hope Trump ends the world prior
 
izec said:
More in terms of huge blows. The other two are for some people more political blows (some are happy), but for United fans Liverpool winning the title would be another one.
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And the most devastating.

Brexit will become normal in a few years and most people will shut up about it. Trump will be gone in 4, or 8 years max.

Those feckers would never shut up about winning the league.
 
The players were just in poor form and Chelsea didn't allow Mourinho to write the season off and start again. In my opinion, he should have been given that considering he JUST won the league and EFL Cup with them.
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They waited as long as possible, but the players made it perfectly clear that they didn't want mourinho anymore. They either had to change the manager, or change all their players. Easy choice to make, really
 
izec said:
Brexit, Trump, Liverpool. It is inevitable. I feel like puking.
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Brexit and Trump were supposed to be Victories over the establishment.In England however, especially in the mainstream media Liverpool IS the establishment, so this is not a comparable situation.
 
Psychologically I'll treat it as predominantly a Klopp thing, a phenomenon of German charisma. I'm going to move the whole thing offshore, in my mind. I'll credit and look on it as a purely managerial event, unrelated to anything outside of the dugout. The PL winners records will read
2015 Chelsea
2016 Leicester
2017 Klopp
 
Leicester winning the league totally devalued it.

Anyone winning it after them is a hollow acheivement and means nothing. :smirk:
 
They won't win it - they can blow teams away but I query whether they can grind out 1-0s when fatigue kicks in after Christmas. In any case, they have surpassed our 26 year drought which was the main thing...
 
MoskvaRed said:
They won't win it - they can blow teams away but I query whether they can grind out 1-0s when fatigue kicks in after Christmas. In any case, they have surpassed our 26 year drought which was the main thing...
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Why fatigue? The running stats aren't too different to others.
 
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