What do we still need? Aka The never ending story

[MCDC]

This works. Although I do think Delap presents a major risk. Most of these players probably fit the INEOS profile of being slightly cheaper, in the 30-50M range, and buying based on youth and potential than the finished product. Probably 200-250M total if you were to sign these 6?

I agree on the risk, but with no Europe potentially we have to be realistic about where we shop.

I think we need to go to kids who are clearly talented, who want to play for us, push us further up the league then when it’s time to push on add 2/3 WC talents.

 

[MCDC]

This sounds like a more realistic list of targets than some others. However players such as Huijsen will be hard to convince unless we miraculously win the UEL. He'll have much better options than us with his release clause. Also, if I imagine replacing our older players with these young lads, I feel as if we would lack leaders which is already the case atm. I would sign 1-2 young players with 2-3 more experienced ones (23-26).

I agree on Huijsen, but after signing Yoro I thought there was a chance.

I do think no Europe is going to be a less attractive proposition for players, but if they are coming for Europe and not to play for United then I don’t really want them.

I do think this team would lose its leaders, but then how many of those have actually shown anything, I think a couple of Free agents or cheap signings to help the young players would go along way.

 

[Woziak]

Think we need one or two WBs, a CB, two CMs, an AM and a striker. Not sure how we get all that done.

I really want Quenda and he could play on the left or the right but resources will be limited. I think Doughty would be excellent value at LWB but RWB is more pressing. In an ideal world, we get both but can’t see that happening with limited funds. I’d even consider selling Dalot. Should be good for PSR and while I like Dalot a lot, I don’t think he’s ideally suited for wing back vs a back four.

Huijsen seems the obvious pick at CB but that’s 50m and will have a lot of competition. If Heaven or Kukonki aren’t ready to step up, we’re going to need a big investment there.

I don’t see much value available at CM except for Fernandes at Southampton when they get relegated. Think we need two CMs and the other player needs to be an energetic fella. Ederson seems the obvious pick but wouldn’t be cheap.

Cunha seems the obvious choice for AM. Again, that’s another 60m. Would also take a flyer on Cherki. Talent is immense and he would be much cheaper.

Striker is going to cost striker money.

In sum, I think we’re kind of fecked unless we can pull off some good sales (Rashford first and foremost) and offload some players like Casemiro.

I think you’re right plus a goalkeeper that’s a huge 8 players in maybe 9!
If we are losing 4 attacking players we must get in at least three?

Most fans will think you and I are insane for expecting or thinking this but here’s the thing;

1. When you finish outside the top 10 and probably in the bottom 6 you have to take drastic action.
2. We hired a specialist coach, unless we want more of the same next season we need to back him or sack him.
3. At least 4 players will leave on a free and maybe 5 more players must be sold.
4. Three attacking players are on loan, one should be sold, the other 2 hopefully.
5. At least one player from Academy either Mainoo or Garnaucho will be Sold for £70m.

The truth is we either have a full cultural reset and back Amorim 100% or we Sack him after he inevitably falls short in FA CUP and Europa League. We’ve played the 3 or 4 in every season with a new coach. And it simply doesn’t work!

The reality of PSR will hit home next season without European Football but INEOS could sponsor the club with a new sleeve deal at a rate to bridge the Gap for one season especially in light of City’s recent win over the EPL, might be why Sir Jim wants to finish sponsoring Spurs.

Now the real issue of cash flow and liquidity, we have low cash reserves as shown in last 1/4 accounts of less than £100m (£95.5m). Yes we could fluke a EL win and everything changes but highly unlikely.

Let’s assume that they get the transfer window right in terms of departures and United sell the following;
1. Jadon Sancho (£25m). / £250k
2. Marcus Rashford (£40m) /£325k
3. Antony (£30m) /£200k
4. Casemiro(15m) /£350k
5. Garnaucho*(£65m) /£75k
6. A Bayinder (£10m) /£80k
7. D Gore (£5m)
8. H Amass(£8m)
9. J Hugill (£2m)
10 . E Williams(£5m)

11. Lindelof Free /£120k
12. J Evan’s Free / £65k
13. T Heaton Free /£45k
14. C Eriksen Free /£180k

15. Either J Zirkzee or R Hojlund £40m /90k

I’m not saying we should sell Garnaucho or any of the academy players but that’s the only way to finance this huge rebuild as they represent 100% profit. This would mean that the club received agreed transfer payments of £245m, with £125m academy sales representing pure 100% profit and helping the club to make a profit against PSR for that accounting year but more importantly also allowing us the capital to do a £300-400m rebuild.

All the Lower payments below £40m would probably be paid in one payment and the three larger transfers paid in 2 or 3 instalments.

The reality we may be able to generate £175/180m of actual cash and facilitate a huge rebuild of £350m which would be allowed under PSR rules.

I’m actually hoping that Wilcox/Vivell go for broke and do a hard reset 12/13 players out 8/9 in.

My Picks ;

Goalkeeper - James Trafford 6’5/6, 22 next England number 1 - Cost £30m wages £80k
He immediately puts Onana under pressure
Left Footed CB - Dean Huijsen(20) 6’5 or J Branthwaite(22) 6’5 - Cost £50m wages £120k
Creative BTB Midfielder - Ederson(24) 6’1 or M Hjulmand(25) 6’2 - Cost £50m wages £160k per week
Utility Midfielder- A Gomes(24) 5’7 Free wages £120k per week or D Costa(26) 5’9 loan and obligation 150k wages
Right Wing Back - G Quenda (18) 5’8 - Cost £44m wages 75k per week
Left Wing Back/LCB - Alvaro Fernandes(21) 6’2 £15m buy back wages 75k per week
Right 10/RWS - Tyler Dybling (19) 5’10 - Cost £40m wages £100k per week
L10/LWS - M Cunha (25) 6’0 - Cost £64m wages £200k per week
Number 9 - V Osimhen(26) 6’1 Cost £62m wages £280k per week or V Gyokeres (27) 6’2 cost £250k per week

I also think if we don’t see anything from Mason Mount in remainder of season, we must sell him for £20/25m and buy Chris Rigg or Jobe Bellingham for £40m. This is how a big well run club operates.

Summary ;
This looks almost impossible to achieve and maybe only half will happen but this type of open heart surgery is long overdue as the club is near the white light and the defibrillator is on its last chance of a revival.

Total Cost £355m outlay
New Wages £1.2m
Sales £245m incoming
Reduce wage £1.7m

Net Spend £110m however £500k or £26m per year would be saved in wages which means this type of complete reset pays for itself in 4 years!

If SPINEOS do half of what I’ve suggested then that’s a small success story and will help the club to rebuild in the right way on the pitch first with young hungry players.

 

[Ollie Derbyshire]

GK
Yoro CB Martinez
Amad CM Ugarte Dorgu
Bruno AM
CF​

We need:
CB - A fast technical elite passer
CM - An athletic progressive ball player
AM - A technical ball carrier
CF - An established goal scorer

That then leaves us with:

Sell/ Release Onana - Sell Bayindir - Sell Maguire - Sell Lindelof - Sell/ Release Eriksen - Sell/ Release Casemiro - Sell Rashford - Sell Sancho - Sell Antony - Sell Malacia - Sell Evans - Release​

Squad DeLigt - Squad Dalot - Squad Mazraoui - Squad Hojlund - Squad Zirkzee - Squad Garnacho - Squad Mainoo - Squad Collyer - Squad Mount - Squad Shaw - Squad​

 

[croadyman]

GK
Yoro CB Martinez
Amad CM Ugarte Dorgu
Bruno AM
CF​

We need:
CB - A fast technical elite passer
CM - An athletic progressive ball player
AM - A technical ball carrier
CF - An established goal scorer

That then leaves us with:

Sell/ Release Onana - Sell Bayindir - Sell Maguire - Sell Lindelof - Sell/ Release Eriksen - Sell/ Release Casemiro - Sell Rashford - Sell Sancho - Sell Antony - Sell Malacia - Sell Evans - Release​

Squad DeLigt - Squad Dalot - Squad Mazraoui - Squad Hojlund - Squad Zirkzee - Squad Garnacho - Squad Mainoo - Squad Collyer - Squad Mount - Squad Shaw - Squad​

Need to add RWB and left sided 10 to that list, agree we need two midfielders but so far zero noise about signing even one in summer

 

[Ollie Derbyshire]

Need to add RWB and left sided 10 to that list, agree we need two midfielders but so far zero noise about signing even one in summer

I like Amad more at RWB than a 10 at the minute but if we get a RWB then Amad taking a 10 spot is fine with me too.

 

[croadyman]

I like Amad more at RWB than a 10 at the minute but if we get a RWB then Amad taking a 10 spot is fine with me too.

Too much noise around this Quenda deal

 

[Ollie Derbyshire]

Too much noise around this Quenda deal

Yeah, which means Amad is lined up for one of the 10 positions.

 

[croadyman]

Yeah, which means Amad is lined up for one of the 10 positions.

Yeah have to prioritise a number 9 over left sided 10 much as we could still do with one though

 

[Ollie Derbyshire]

Yeah have to prioritise a number 9 over left sided 10 much as we could still do with one though

100%, I actually still think we should keep Hojlund as in a couple of years he’ll be a solid goal scoring centre forward I think, but he should be a bench player next year, learning his trade and coming on in games to use his pace and scare tiring defenders.

 

[croadyman]

100%, I actually still think we should keep Hojlund as in a couple of years he’ll be a solid goal scoring centre forward I think, but he should be a bench player next year, learning his trade and coming on in games to use his pace and scare tiring defenders.

He's not good enough to be starting number 9 here

 

[Ollie Derbyshire]

He's not good enough to be starting number 9 here

Not now no, hence why I said we need a new established CF. I think he’d be a good squad player though if we were in a good position as a club.

 

[Kinsella]

I feel we should raid the free transfer market this summer to add some experience to the squad, then perhaps have one 60m+ signing on top.

Just for example

Kimmich
Verratti
David
Tah
Gomes
Norgaard
Koke

Some good choices available

There may be no transfer fee, but there’ll be high wages.

 

[daba]

I think you’re right plus a goalkeeper that’s a huge 8 players in maybe 9!
If we are losing 4 attacking players we must get in at least three?

Most fans will think you and I are insane for expecting or thinking this but here’s the thing;

1. When you finish outside the top 10 and probably in the bottom 6 you have to take drastic action.
2. We hired a specialist coach, unless we want more of the same next season we need to back him or sack him.
3. At least 4 players will leave on a free and maybe 5 more players must be sold.
4. Three attacking players are on loan, one should be sold, the other 2 hopefully.
5. At least one player from Academy either Mainoo or Garnaucho will be Sold for £70m.

The truth is we either have a full cultural reset and back Amorim 100% or we Sack him after he inevitably falls short in FA CUP and Europa League. We’ve played the 3 or 4 in every season with a new coach. And it simply doesn’t work!

The reality of PSR will hit home next season without European Football but INEOS could sponsor the club with a new sleeve deal at a rate to bridge the Gap for one season especially in light of City’s recent win over the EPL, might be why Sir Jim wants to finish sponsoring Spurs.

Now the real issue of cash flow and liquidity, we have low cash reserves as shown in last 1/4 accounts of less than £100m (£95.5m). Yes we could fluke a EL win and everything changes but highly unlikely.

Let’s assume that they get the transfer window right in terms of departures and United sell the following;
1. Jadon Sancho (£25m). / £250k
2. Marcus Rashford (£40m) /£325k
3. Antony (£30m) /£200k
4. Casemiro(15m) /£350k
5. Garnaucho*(£65m) /£75k
6. A Bayinder (£10m) /£80k
7. D Gore (£5m)
8. H Amass(£8m)
9. J Hugill (£2m)
10 . E Williams(£5m)

11. Lindelof Free /£120k
12. J Evan’s Free / £65k
13. T Heaton Free /£45k
14. C Eriksen Free /£180k

15. Either J Zirkzee or R Hojlund £40m /90k

I’m not saying we should sell Garnaucho or any of the academy players but that’s the only way to finance this huge rebuild as they represent 100% profit. This would mean that the club received agreed transfer payments of £245m, with £125m academy sales representing pure 100% profit and helping the club to make a profit against PSR for that accounting year but more importantly also allowing us the capital to do a £300-400m rebuild.

All the Lower payments below £40m would probably be paid in one payment and the three larger transfers paid in 2 or 3 instalments.

The reality we may be able to generate £175/180m of actual cash and facilitate a huge rebuild of £350m which would be allowed under PSR rules.

I’m actually hoping that Wilcox/Vivell go for broke and do a hard reset 12/13 players out 8/9 in.

My Picks ;

Goalkeeper - James Trafford 6’5/6, 22 next England number 1 - Cost £30m wages £80k
He immediately puts Onana under pressure
Left Footed CB - Dean Huijsen(20) 6’5 or J Branthwaite(22) 6’5 - Cost £50m wages £120k
Creative BTB Midfielder - Ederson(24) 6’1 or M Hjulmand(25) 6’2 - Cost £50m wages £160k per week
Utility Midfielder- A Gomes(24) 5’7 Free wages £120k per week or D Costa(26) 5’9 loan and obligation 150k wages
Right Wing Back - G Quenda (18) 5’8 - Cost £44m wages 75k per week
Left Wing Back/LCB - Alvaro Fernandes(21) 6’2 £15m buy back wages 75k per week
Right 10/RWS - Tyler Dybling (19) 5’10 - Cost £40m wages £100k per week
L10/LWS - M Cunha (25) 6’0 - Cost £64m wages £200k per week
Number 9 - V Osimhen(26) 6’1 Cost £62m wages £280k per week or V Gyokeres (27) 6’2 cost £250k per week

I also think if we don’t see anything from Mason Mount in remainder of season, we must sell him for £20/25m and buy Chris Rigg or Jobe Bellingham for £40m. This is how a big well run club operates.

Summary ;
This looks almost impossible to achieve and maybe only half will happen but this type of open heart surgery is long overdue as the club is near the white light and the defibrillator is on its last chance of a revival.

Total Cost £355m outlay
New Wages £1.2m
Sales £245m incoming
Reduce wage £1.7m

Net Spend £110m however £500k or £26m per year would be saved in wages which means this type of complete reset pays for itself in 4 years!

If SPINEOS do half of what I’ve suggested then that’s a small success story and will help the club to rebuild in the right way on the pitch first with young hungry players.

We’ve been calling for a big reset for at least 3 years now but it never happens, with the excuse that it’s not possible to bring in more than 4 or 5 players. That is absolute rubbish in my opinion, and I think the real reason is there is admittedly a good chance wholesale changes will lead to an inconsistent year and result in missing out on CL or EL.

This time around I think we have to have the big reset and properly back Amorim. Not saying ETH wasn’t backed, he was, but for Amorim to be backed we need larger scale changes due to 1) the system 2) PSR/Finances and 3) dressing room culture.

Outs = Eriksen (£0m), Lindelof (£0m), Evans (£0m), Antony (£25m), Sancho (£25m), Rashford (£40m), Garnacho (£65m), Casemiro (£10m), Dalot (£30m), Onana (£25m), Zirkzee (£25m), Bayindir, (£10m), Malacia (£5m), Shaw (£0m)

= £260m

That leaves us with:

GK = Vitek, Heaton
RCB = Yoro, Mazraoui
CCB = Maguire, De Ligt
LCB = Martinez, Heaven
WB = Dorgu, Amad, Leon
CM = Ugarte, Mainoo, Collyer
AM = Bruno, Mount, Amad
ST = Hojlund, Chido

We’d then need:

GK, CB, CM x 2, WB x 2, AM x 2, ST x 1

GK = Trafford £30m - solid young keeper and likely to the national team no.1 in the next few years. Having an incredible season at Burnley so far. Alternative option if Burnley go up and demand too much or we want someone more experienced, would be Maignan at Milan who is OOC in 2026.

CB = Aleksandro £30m - we have good numbers at CB but a number with bad injury records. We desperately need better ball progression from CBs and this guy has all the physical and technical qualities you want from a CB.

WB = Quenda £40m - superstar in the making who was excellent in Amorims system. Can play either side as a WB and has some much needed pace.

WB = Semedo £0 - would provide some league experience and experience in this system. He is 31 but on a free for a couple of years he would give us good cover and seems to still have plenty of pace in him this season.

CM = Mateus Fernandes £30m - an under his belt in the prem and has been one of the few bright sparks in a poor Southampton team. Has great ball carrying ability and good defensive metrics. High potential option to compete with Mainoo.

AM1 = Cherki £20m - would provide a different option to Amad in the RAM role. Bruno-level chance creation metrics with his only question mark being his work rate. If Amorim could unlock that within him then we have the bargain of the decade.

AM2 = Nypan £10m - with Bruno always available and Mount still around then a young understudy feels like the most sensible option. This guy is very highly rated and a Utd fan, and has very little potential downside.

ST = Delap £45m - very few suitable options on the market but I’ve been impressed with Delap this year. I don’t think he quite has World Class potential, but he seems to have a good attitude, work rate, attacking instincts and will lead the line far better than Hojlund.

= £205m

I’ve done the above on the assumption that we don’t get any European football next year. If we do you could look at upgrading a few positions such as Ederson in CM over Mateus Fernandes, a Gyokeres/Osimhen over Delap, or Diomande at CB over Alexsandro.

 

[Woziak]

We’ve been calling for a big reset for at least 3 years now but it never happens, with the excuse that it’s not possible to bring in more than 4 or 5 players. That is absolute rubbish in my opinion, and I think the real reason is there is admittedly a good chance wholesale changes will lead to an inconsistent year and result in missing out on CL or EL.

This time around I think we have to have the big reset and properly back Amorim. Not saying ETH wasn’t backed, he was, but for Amorim to be backed we need larger scale changes due to 1) the system 2) PSR/Finances and 3) dressing room culture.

Outs = Eriksen (£0m), Lindelof (£0m), Evans (£0m), Antony (£25m), Sancho (£25m), Rashford (£40m), Garnacho (£65m), Casemiro (£10m), Dalot (£30m), Onana (£25m), Zirkzee (£25m), Bayindir, (£10m), Malacia (£5m), Shaw (£0m)

= £260m

That leaves us with:

GK = Vitek, Heaton
RCB = Yoro, Mazraoui
CCB = Maguire, De Ligt
LCB = Martinez, Heaven
WB = Dorgu, Amad, Leon
CM = Ugarte, Mainoo, Collyer
AM = Bruno, Mount, Amad
ST = Hojlund, Chido

We’d then need:

GK, CB, CM x 2, WB x 2, AM x 2, ST x 1

GK = Trafford £30m - solid young keeper and likely to the national team no.1 in the next few years. Having an incredible season at Burnley so far. Alternative option if Burnley go up and demand too much or we want someone more experienced, would be Maignan at Milan who is OOC in 2026.

CB = Aleksandro £30m - we have good numbers at CB but a number with bad injury records. We desperately need better ball progression from CBs and this guy has all the physical and technical qualities you want from a CB.

WB = Quenda £40m - superstar in the making who was excellent in Amorims system. Can play either side as a WB and has some much needed pace.

WB = Semedo £0 - would provide some league experience and experience in this system. He is 31 but on a free for a couple of years he would give us good cover and seems to still have plenty of pace in him this season.

CM = Mateus Fernandes £30m - an under his belt in the prem and has been one of the few bright sparks in a poor Southampton team. Has great ball carrying ability and good defensive metrics. High potential option to compete with Mainoo.

AM1 = Cherki £20m - would provide a different option to Amad in the RAM role. Bruno-level chance creation metrics with his only question mark being his work rate. If Amorim could unlock that within him then we have the bargain of the decade.

AM2 = Nypan £10m - with Bruno always available and Mount still around then a young understudy feels like the most sensible option. This guy is very highly rated and a Utd fan, and has very little potential downside.

ST = Delap £45m - very few suitable options on the market but I’ve been impressed with Delap this year. I don’t think he quite has World Class potential, but he seems to have a good attitude, work rate, attacking instincts and will lead the line far better than Hojlund.

= £205m

I’ve done the above on the assumption that we don’t get any European football next year. If we do you could look at upgrading a few positions such as Ederson in CM over Mateus Fernandes, a Gyokeres/Osimhen over Delap, or Diomande at CB over

That squad is too young, too inexperienced, not enough leaders and doesn’t really move the needle.

You’re replacing Garnaucho, Sancho, Zirkzee, Rashford and Antony with Cherki. Nypan, and Delap, we would be relegated, we need quality and experience to improve.

 

[LawCharltonBest]

Delay will score and generally terrorise us on Wednesday. But they will get relegated and then I think we sign him

After a striker and a #10, it’s a toss up what we need next the most. A GK, RWB, CB, MC.

 

[UpWithRivers]

Im tired of this sht. I want them all gone. Even Bruno just due to age. Cash in while we can instead of waiting 3/4 years. Thats a sht load of players but only 6 are paid. The rest are free and should be straight forward. If we cant get all then replace Oshimen instead of Gyokees for example. At least try get the top 3 and the freebies. I have specifically picked these players for age and abilities. I dont see the point in Quenda for example. If we think we can just buy a bunch of kids and get from 15th up the table we are fkd. Its not fair in them either. We need experienced players 24-27 ish.

Ederson - 50 mill
Gyokeres - 70 mill
Cunha - 60 mill
Frimpong - 40 mill
Arujo - 50 mill
Diogo Costa - 50 mill
Total - 320

Jonathan David - Free
Frank Anguissa Free
Tyrick Mitchell - Free
Tariq Lamptey - Free
Olivier Boscagli - Free

Bruno 45/ Rash 40 / Sancho 25 / Greenwood 25 / Hojlund 35 / Dalot 30 / Onana 25 / Antony 30 mill / Maguire - 15 - Total - 270

Gyokeres
Cunha Amad
Dorgu Ederson Ugarte Frimpong
Boscagli Arujo Yoro
Costa

David
Zirkzee Garnacho
Mitchell Mainoo Anguissa Lamptey
Martinez De Ligt Mazraoui
Bayindir​

 

[Woziak]

Im tired of this sht. I want them all gone. Even Bruno just due to age. Cash in while we can instead of waiting 3/4 years. Thats a sht load of players but only 6 are paid. The rest are free and should be straight forward. If we cant get all then replace Oshimen instead of Gyokees for example. At least try get the top 3 and the freebies. I have specifically picked these players for age and abilities. I dont see the point in Quenda for example. If we think we can just buy a bunch of kids and get from 15th up the table we are fkd. Its not fair in them either. We need experienced players 24-27 ish.

Ederson - 50 mill
Gyokeres - 70 mill
Cunha - 60 mill
Frimpong - 40 mill
Arujo - 50 mill
Diogo Costa - 50 mill
Total - 320

Jonathan David - Free
Frank Anguissa Free
Tyrick Mitchell - Free
Tariq Lamptey - Free
Olivier Boscagli - Free

Bruno 45/ Rash 40 / Sancho 25 / Greenwood 25 / Hojlund 35 / Dalot 30 / Onana 25 / Antony 30 mill / Maguire - 15 - Total - 270

Gyokeres
Cunha Amad
Dorgu Ederson Ugarte Frimpong
Boscagli Arujo Yoro
Costa

David
Zirkzee Garnacho
Mitchell Mainoo Anguissa Lamptey
Martinez De Ligt Mazraoui
Bayindir​

Love this and this is what it will take but like I said Unless RA improves dramatically they won’t back him, it’s too high risk!

This guy has a loss rate in the PL that is higher than when we were relegated in 1974.

I’m guessing he’s been told no more outrageous comments and he needs to concentrate on climbing the League ASAP.

If he doesn’t go deep in the cups and see a significant improvement they will change the coach and low and behold when I predicted Xavi last week, it’s now breaking on questionable sources that Ineos are looking at Xavi for the summer as he can play with a 433 system, imagine that INEOS and SJR going through coaches like toilet paper, he has form with Nice after all!

 

[daba]

That squad is too young, too inexperienced, not enough leaders and doesn’t really move the needle.

You’re replacing Garnaucho, Sancho, Zirkzee, Rashford and Antony with Cherki. Nypan, and Delap, we would be relegated, we need quality and experience to improve.

Quality and experience comes at a price and those players will very likely have options better than us in the summer. Our saving grace is if we somehow win the EL or FA Cup, get ourselves into Europe and create a more positive view of the club - then we will be in a position to go for those players (which I do caveat at the end of the post).

Would I like us to sign Cunha, Ederson, Maignan and Gyokeres?

Of course, but if you are one of the above, hitting your prime years, and you’re wanted by title challenging Arsenal and a Utd who just finished 14th, no European football and clear deep-rooted issues across the club - who are you choosing if the proposed salaries are even?

We need to stop chasing instant success like we have done for more than a decade, signing players motivated by huge salaries and build a young hungry squad who will be ready to help us challenge in 2-3 years time. Signing these 21-23 year olds now means when we are ready in 2-3 years, they are hitting their prime and we can aim to enjoy a solid period of stability and success. Not saying that wouldn’t be the case if we signed 24-26 year olds now, but in our current state we’re a hard sell for quality players hitting their prime years.

With the signings I’ve chosen I work out that the average age of the starting 11 would be between 23.5-24 y/o - Chelsea's this year is 23.5 for context - I don’t think that is too bad for the start of a proper rebuild.

 

[Roboc7]

Quality and experience comes at a price and those players will very likely have options better than us in the summer. Our saving grace is if we somehow win the EL or FA Cup, get ourselves into Europe and create a more positive view of the club - then we will be in a position to go for those players (which I do caveat at the end of the post).

Would I like us to sign Cunha, Ederson, Maignan and Gyokeres?

Of course, but if you are one of the above, hitting your prime years, and you’re wanted by title challenging Arsenal and a Utd who just finished 14th, no European football and clear deep-rooted issues across the club - who are you choosing if the proposed salaries are even?

We need to stop chasing instant success like we have done for more than a decade, signing players motivated by huge salaries and build a young hungry squad who will be ready to help us challenge in 2-3 years time. Signing these 21-23 year olds now means when we are ready in 2-3 years, they are hitting their prime and we can aim to enjoy a solid period of stability and success. Not saying that wouldn’t be the case if we signed 24-26 year olds now, but in our current state we’re a hard sell for quality players hitting their prime years.

With the signings I’ve chosen I work out that the average age of the starting 11 would be between 23.5-24 y/o - Chelsea's this year is 23.5 for context - I don’t think that is too bad for the start of a proper rebuild.

This is essentially the problem we now have, we can no longer overpay players to make up for the fact we aren’t very good and club is a bit of a
mess. Throw in no European football and it makes recruitment a lot harder.

We desperately need proven players but can’t afford them and why would proven players sign for us if they have better options, we might still be able to sign someone like Cunha but it’s going to be dependent on something out of our control, whether or not he gets better offers.

Next season I expect us to have a long and fairly small squad, it’s a few years of building up a team and offloading a lot of the players we currently have.

 

[croadyman]

This is essentially the problem we now
Have, we can no longer overpay players to make up for the fact we aren’t very good and club is a bit of a
mess. Throw in no European football and it makes recruitment a lot harder.

We desperately need proven players but can’t afford them and why would proven players sign for us if they have better options, we might still be able to sign someone like Cunha but it’s going to be dependent on something out of our control, whether or not he gets better offers.

Next season I expect us to have a long and fairly small squad, it’s a few years of building up a team and offloading a lot of the players we currently have.

Yeah how do you sign proven players this summer in our situation is going to be the big question

 

[Roboc7]

Yeah how do you sign proven players this summer in our situation is going to be the big question

It’s not going to be easy, like I said a big part is going to come down to what other clubs choose to do. If Cunha gets a chance to go to Arsenal or us then he’s probably going to Arsenal. We are going to looking at unproven players more than ever, it can change very quickly but this summer is going to be tough.

We’ve tempted players before with big money, if we were offering Casemiro 150k instead of 350k a week I doubt we sign him. That option has gone nowhere which is probably a good thing.

 

[Tallis]

I think you’re right plus a goalkeeper that’s a huge 8 players in maybe 9!
If we are losing 4 attacking players we must get in at least three?

Most fans will think you and I are insane for expecting or thinking this but here’s the thing;

1. When you finish outside the top 10 and probably in the bottom 6 you have to take drastic action.
2. We hired a specialist coach, unless we want more of the same next season we need to back him or sack him.
3. At least 4 players will leave on a free and maybe 5 more players must be sold.
4. Three attacking players are on loan, one should be sold, the other 2 hopefully.
5. At least one player from Academy either Mainoo or Garnaucho will be Sold for £70m.

The truth is we either have a full cultural reset and back Amorim 100% or we Sack him after he inevitably falls short in FA CUP and Europa League. We’ve played the 3 or 4 in every season with a new coach. And it simply doesn’t work!

The reality of PSR will hit home next season without European Football but INEOS could sponsor the club with a new sleeve deal at a rate to bridge the Gap for one season especially in light of City’s recent win over the EPL, might be why Sir Jim wants to finish sponsoring Spurs.

Now the real issue of cash flow and liquidity, we have low cash reserves as shown in last 1/4 accounts of less than £100m (£95.5m). Yes we could fluke a EL win and everything changes but highly unlikely.

Let’s assume that they get the transfer window right in terms of departures and United sell the following;
1. Jadon Sancho (£25m). / £250k
2. Marcus Rashford (£40m) /£325k
3. Antony (£30m) /£200k
4. Casemiro(15m) /£350k
5. Garnaucho*(£65m) /£75k
6. A Bayinder (£10m) /£80k
7. D Gore (£5m)
8. H Amass(£8m)
9. J Hugill (£2m)
10 . E Williams(£5m)

11. Lindelof Free /£120k
12. J Evan’s Free / £65k
13. T Heaton Free /£45k
14. C Eriksen Free /£180k

15. Either J Zirkzee or R Hojlund £40m /90k

I’m not saying we should sell Garnaucho or any of the academy players but that’s the only way to finance this huge rebuild as they represent 100% profit. This would mean that the club received agreed transfer payments of £245m, with £125m academy sales representing pure 100% profit and helping the club to make a profit against PSR for that accounting year but more importantly also allowing us the capital to do a £300-400m rebuild.

All the Lower payments below £40m would probably be paid in one payment and the three larger transfers paid in 2 or 3 instalments.

The reality we may be able to generate £175/180m of actual cash and facilitate a huge rebuild of £350m which would be allowed under PSR rules.

I’m actually hoping that Wilcox/Vivell go for broke and do a hard reset 12/13 players out 8/9 in.

My Picks ;

Goalkeeper - James Trafford 6’5/6, 22 next England number 1 - Cost £30m wages £80k
He immediately puts Onana under pressure
Left Footed CB - Dean Huijsen(20) 6’5 or J Branthwaite(22) 6’5 - Cost £50m wages £120k
Creative BTB Midfielder - Ederson(24) 6’1 or M Hjulmand(25) 6’2 - Cost £50m wages £160k per week
Utility Midfielder- A Gomes(24) 5’7 Free wages £120k per week or D Costa(26) 5’9 loan and obligation 150k wages
Right Wing Back - G Quenda (18) 5’8 - Cost £44m wages 75k per week
Left Wing Back/LCB - Alvaro Fernandes(21) 6’2 £15m buy back wages 75k per week
Right 10/RWS - Tyler Dybling (19) 5’10 - Cost £40m wages £100k per week
L10/LWS - M Cunha (25) 6’0 - Cost £64m wages £200k per week
Number 9 - V Osimhen(26) 6’1 Cost £62m wages £280k per week or V Gyokeres (27) 6’2 cost £250k per week

I also think if we don’t see anything from Mason Mount in remainder of season, we must sell him for £20/25m and buy Chris Rigg or Jobe Bellingham for £40m. This is how a big well run club operates.

Summary ;
This looks almost impossible to achieve and maybe only half will happen but this type of open heart surgery is long overdue as the club is near the white light and the defibrillator is on its last chance of a revival.

Total Cost £355m outlay
New Wages £1.2m
Sales £245m incoming
Reduce wage £1.7m

Net Spend £110m however £500k or £26m per year would be saved in wages which means this type of complete reset pays for itself in 4 years!

If SPINEOS do half of what I’ve suggested then that’s a small success story and will help the club to rebuild in the right way on the pitch first with young hungry players.

Very comprehensive. I like it (but as we know, it will never happen).

In the outs, you can include Malacia for 10m. I don't think we will be able to get money for Casemiro. Best case he leaves on free and worst case, we have to pay half his salary for him to leave.

I believe Osimhen wanted 400k upwards which is why Chelsea didnt sign him. Maybe his expectations are a little more reasonable after 1 year in Turkey.

 

[croadyman]

It’s not going to be easy, like I said a big part is going to come down to what other clubs choose to do. If Cunha gets a chance to go to Arsenal or us then he’s probably going to Arsenal. We are going to looking at unproven players more than ever, it can change very quickly but this summer is going to be tough.

We’ve tempted players before with big money, if we were offering Casemiro 150k instead of 350k a week I doubt we sign him. That option has gone nowhere which is probably a good thing.

Yeah Arsenal heck even Forest if they somehow finish in top 4 or 5 have a chance too

 

[bosskeano]

you bring Quenda in and now you are way more athletic on both wing back spots

you probably should bring in two inside forwards.....Cunha would be ideal simply bc he plays that role for Wolves and a find a younger player who's good on the ball in tight spaces and on the dribble

clearly you MUST bring in a top class goal scorer

if you hit those 4 spots and do it correctly, it's a complete transformation of the group as to what lacks in those areas currently

 

[croadyman]

you bring Quenda in and now you are way more athletic on both wing back spots

you probably should bring in two inside forwards.....Cunha would be ideal simply bc he plays that role for Wolves and a find a younger player who's good on the ball in tight spaces and on the dribble

clearly you MUST bring in a top class goal scorer

if you hit those 4 spots and do it correctly, it's a complete transformation of the group as to what lacks in those areas currently

Midfield as we lack athleticism and creativity?

 

[bosskeano]

Midfield as we lack athleticism and creativity?

my thought would be to slide Bruno back there along with Toby....those two with Mainoo and Ugarte

if we could afford bringing in Ederson that would be ideal but i think those other spots are vital to improving

 

[DannyCAFC]

you bring Quenda in and now you are way more athletic on both wing back spots

you probably should bring in two inside forwards.....Cunha would be ideal simply bc he plays that role for Wolves and a find a younger player who's good on the ball in tight spaces and on the dribble

clearly you MUST bring in a top class goal scorer

if you hit those 4 spots and do it correctly, it's a complete transformation of the group as to what lacks in those areas currently

Midfield as we lack athleticism and creativity?

Bringing in a RWB + 2 AM's would presumably mean dropping Amad from the first-choice XI?

100% agree with the reply - at least 1 CM is a must. United really lack energy and physicality there as it is, but beyond Ugarte & Bruno there is no back-up (Collyer possibly but it remains to be seen how good he actually is).

 

[MCDC]

my thought would be to slide Bruno back there along with Toby....those two with Mainoo and Ugarte

if we could afford bringing in Ederson that would be ideal but i think those other spots are vital to improving

Matheus Fernandes the one and more realistic:

Shot Creating Actions: 2.54 Per 90

Passes Attempted: 43.78 Per 90
Pass completion: 79.2%
Progressive Passes: 4.56 Per 90
Progressive Carries: 2.63 Per 90

Successful Take-ons: 1.74 Per 90
Touches (Att Pen Area): 1.79 Per 90
Progressive Passes Rec: 3.19 Per 90

Tackles: 2.87 Per 90
Interceptions: 0.61 Per 90
Blocks: 1.38 Per 90

Very good stats considering he has been at Southampton this season, thought he was the best player against us both times this season and should be affordable since they are being relegated.

 

[DannyCAFC]

Matheus Fernandes the one and more realistic:

Shot Creating Actions: 2.54 Per 90

Passes Attempted: 43.78 Per 90
Pass completion: 79.2%
Progressive Passes: 4.56 Per 90
Progressive Carries: 2.63 Per 90

Successful Take-ons: 1.74 Per 90
Touches (Att Pen Area): 1.79 Per 90
Progressive Passes Rec: 3.19 Per 90

Tackles: 2.87 Per 90
Interceptions: 0.61 Per 90
Blocks: 1.38 Per 90

Very good stats considering he has been at Southampton this season, thought he was the best player against us both times this season and should be affordable since they are being relegated.

Ederson would be the dream signing but probably unrealistic as you say without European football.

Fernandes would be a good back-up option, I also really like Joao Gomes at Wolves. Very similar metrics to the above, probably not quite as progressive as Fernandes but probably brings slightly more energy as his tackling numbers are like 98th percentile.

I might be wrong but I believe Fernandes whilst playing in a back-three system as well usually plays in one of the more advanced roles (which makes sense with his extra creativity) whereas Gomes has played for Wolves in the midfield pairing.

 

[Jaxa]

I'm surprised people are mentioning PL players here, maybe with the exception of Delap and Dibling where there clubs will be relegated, players like Cunha, Huijsen etc are 50m+, which we just can't afford unless it's a striker like Gyokeres we will be shopping around the 30-40 euros mark which i think we should do,

Even Delap and Dibling im not sure you can get under 40m

There is much more talent out there in Europe and South America where you can spend the money. It's risky because you can never guarantee how they will adapt to PL, but we are not in an ideal world where we can shop in PL, i'd love Cunha but for the 62m rumoured release clause i don't think the club can afford to spend such a hefty amount of the budget on that when we need like 5 players minimum,

I think after player sales, we will be able to spend around 150m, and that needs to get us a Striker, a LCB, an AM , a CDM , LW and there's a growing call for even a new GK to challenge Onana with the idea to take over because Onana isn't ideal.

 

[MCDC]

Ederson would be the dream signing but probably unrealistic as you say without European football.

Fernandes would be a good back-up option, I also really like Joao Gomes at Wolves. Very similar metrics to the above, probably not quite as progressive as Fernandes but probably brings slightly more energy as his tackling numbers are like 98th percentile.

I might be wrong but I believe Fernandes whilst playing in a back-three system as well usually plays in one of the more advanced roles (which makes sense with his extra creativity) whereas Gomes has played for Wolves in the midfield pairing.

Ederson is the one but I think it comes down to cost and European football as you say.

I do like Joao Gomes as well, feel he is really tenacious, him and Ugarte would be a great pair away from home and could rotate at home.

Fernandes has played as both a 10 and 6 this season in the back 3, showing his versatility, wouldn't mind either as both offer different options.

I think either start for us as the 6 atm, with their technical and physical attributes and PL proven.

 

[Woziak]

Quality and experience comes at a price and those players will very likely have options better than us in the summer. Our saving grace is if we somehow win the EL or FA Cup, get ourselves into Europe and create a more positive view of the club - then we will be in a position to go for those players (which I do caveat at the end of the post).

Would I like us to sign Cunha, Ederson, Maignan and Gyokeres?

Of course, but if you are one of the above, hitting your prime years, and you’re wanted by title challenging Arsenal and a Utd who just finished 14th, no European football and clear deep-rooted issues across the club - who are you choosing if the proposed salaries are even?

We need to stop chasing instant success like we have done for more than a decade, signing players motivated by huge salaries and build a young hungry squad who will be ready to help us challenge in 2-3 years time. Signing these 21-23 year olds now means when we are ready in 2-3 years, they are hitting their prime and we can aim to enjoy a solid period of stability and success. Not saying that wouldn’t be the case if we signed 24-26 year olds now, but in our current state we’re a hard sell for quality players hitting their prime years.

With the signings I’ve chosen I work out that the average age of the starting 11 would be between 23.5-24 y/o - Chelsea's this year is 23.5 for context - I don’t think that is too bad for the start of a proper rebuild.

United are 15th exploring your idea of youth already with players like ;
Zirkzee, Mainoo, Garnaucho, Hojlund, Yoro, Collyer, A Heaven, Chido, Dorgu

We have enough players under 23, we need at least 5 or 6 who are 24-27 in the summer.

Two free transfers like Angel Gomes and Johnathon David are super smart moves, Quenda will happen if Ruben doesn’t get sacked and we need at least two to three attacking players.

We don’t need £60m Maignan as a GK, James Trafford is the ideal choice at £30m. I keep saying pick a main core of young British/PL proven players.

My Picks -
Goalkeeper
A Onana out - £30m wages put £150k
J Trafford In - £30m wages £80k
Transfer Neutral Save £70k per week wages

Defence
T Mallacia out - £10m Wages £80k
V Lindelof out - Free Wages £120k
MDL out - £35m - Wages £190k
H Amass Out - £10m - wages £50k
J Evan’s Out - Free wages £65k
——————————————————————
R Araujo In - £45m wages £180k
J Branthwaite In - £50m £140k
Cost £40m Save £75k per week

Midfield
Casemiro out - £15m Wages £350k
Eriksen - Free Wage £170k
M Mount out - £25m Wages £250k
(he’s had enough chances, can’t stay fit either him needs shaw needs to go and he’s easier to sell!)
D Gore out - £5m - wages £10k
————————————————————————
A Gomes In Free - wages 125k
Ederson Or Hjlumand In £50m - wages 155k
Cost £5m Saving £500k per week

Attack
J Sancho out - £25m - wages £300k
M Rashford Out - £45m - Wages £350k
A Garnaucho Out - £60m - Wages £75k
R Hojlund Out - £40m - Wages £85k
Antony Out - £25m - Wages £200k
———————————————————————
V Osimhen In - £62m - Wages £265k
M Cunha In - £63m - Wages £180k
J Davids In - Free - Wages £135k
G Quenda in - £40m Wages £80k
B Mbeumo in - £45m wages £125k
Transfer Cost £20m Wages Saved £310k

The part that everyone is missing we currently have a huge wage bill and at least 6 players on over £200k per week that do not contribute, the headline here is United would spend £385m on 10 players, however United would generate £325m through player sales by having a mass clear out of 12 players plus 2 youth players and maybe selling even more more youth player to generate more profit. The net spend is £60-70m

The key here is wages saved over 1.07m per week or £55m per year which is currently what the club pays in interest charges to service the ldebt which the Glazers have burdened the club with!

This saving alone allows the club to do a complete hard reset irrespective of whether we are in Europe or Not, just like Chelsea did with a revenue of £200m less than united, the key issues are generating cash through sales and making sure that they have at least £100m worth of academy sales like Garnaucho and Rashford.

My complete hard reboot of Man United would be this squad for 25/26 Season ;

Goalkeepers - J Trafford(HG/21),
A Bayinder (26), E Harrison(HG/19),
T Heaton(GK Asst Coach)

Centre Backs - H Maguire(32/HG),
L Yoro(19/HG), R Araujo (26), J Branthwaite (22/HG), L Martinez(27), L Shaw(30/HG),
N Mazraoui (27)

Wing Backs - Amad(23), G Quenda(18/HG), D Leon(18/HG) , P Dorgu (21) , D Dalot(26)

Midfield Engine - T Collyer (22/HG),
M Ugarte (24), Ederson (25),
K Mainoo(20/HG), Bruno(32),
A Gomes(24/HG), S Kone(19/HG)

Attacking 10’s/Second strikers -
M Cunha(25) , Bruno(31), B Mbeumo(25),
J Zirkzee (23) , A Gomes (24)

Striker
V Osimhen(26), J David (24), Chido Obi(18)



Big Squad of 29 but that allows us to whittle that down by Xmas to 26/27 plus we will always have 6/7 injured with such a high intensity system.

You play Amorim’s system you need a lot of players, because they get a lot of injuries through excessive running. This squad has the pace to play 3 at the back and even protect Harry Maguire in Certain Games, I also think if this team bonds and gets a good start then they could easily move up 10 places to top 5.

 

[DannyCAFC]

United are 15th exploring your idea of youth already with players like ;
Zirkzee, Mainoo, Garnaucho, Hojlund, Yoro, Collyer, A Heaven, Chido, Dorgu

We have enough players under 23, we need at least 5 or 6 who are 24-27 in the summer.

Two free transfers like Angel Gomes and Johnathon David are super smart moves, Quenda will happen if Ruben doesn’t get sacked and we need at least two to three attacking players.

We don’t need £60m Maignan as a GK, James Trafford is the ideal choice at £30m. I keep saying pick a main core of young British/PL proven players.

My Picks -
Goalkeeper
A Onana out - £30m wages put £150k
J Trafford In - £30m wages £80k
Transfer Neutral Save £70k per week wages

Defence
T Mallacia out - £10m Wages £80k
V Lindelof out - Free Wages £120k
MDL out - £35m - Wages £190k
H Amass Out - £10m - wages £50k
J Evan’s Out - Free wages £65k
——————————————————————
R Araujo In - £45m wages £180k
J Branthwaite In - £50m £140k
Cost £40m Save £75k per week

Midfield
Casemiro out - £15m Wages £350k
Eriksen - Free Wage £170k
M Mount out - £25m Wages £250k
(he’s had enough chances, can’t stay fit either him needs shaw needs to go and he’s easier to sell!)
D Gore out - £5m - wages £10k
————————————————————————
A Gomes In Free - wages 125k
Ederson Or Hjlumand In £50m - wages 155k
Cost £5m Saving £500k per week

Attack
J Sancho out - £25m - wages £300k
M Rashford Out - £45m - Wages £350k
A Garnaucho Out - £60m - Wages £75k
R Hojlund Out - £40m - Wages £85k
Antony Out - £25m - Wages £200k
———————————————————————
V Osimhen In - £62m - Wages £265k
M Cunha In - £63m - Wages £180k
J Davids In - Free - Wages £135k
G Quenda in - £40m Wages £80k
B Mbeumo in - £45m wages £125k
Transfer Cost £20m Wages Saved £310k

The part that everyone is missing we currently have a huge wage bill and at least 6 players on over £200k per week that do not contribute, the headline here is United would spend £385m on 10 players, however United would generate £325m through player sales by having a mass clear out of 12 players plus 2 youth players and maybe selling even more more youth player to generate more profit. The net spend is £60-70m

The key here is wages saved over 1.07m per week or £55m per year which is currently what the club pays in interest charges to service the ldebt which the Glazers have burdened the club with!

This saving alone allows the club to do a complete hard reset irrespective of whether we are in Europe or Not, just like Chelsea did with a revenue of £200m less than united, the key issues are generating cash through sales and making sure that they have at least £100m worth of academy sales like Garnaucho and Rashford.

My complete hard reboot of Man United would be this squad for 25/26 Season ;

Goalkeepers - J Trafford(HG/21),
A Bayinder (26), E Harrison(HG/19),
T Heaton(GK Asst Coach)

Centre Backs - H Maguire(32/HG),
L Yoro(19/HG), R Araujo (26), J Branthwaite (22/HG), L Martinez(27), L Shaw(30/HG),
N Mazraoui (27)

Wing Backs - Amad(23), G Quenda(18/HG), D Leon(18/HG) , P Dorgu (21) , D Dalot(26)

Midfield Engine - T Collyer (22/HG),
M Ugarte (24), Ederson (25),
K Mainoo(20/HG), Bruno(32),
A Gomes(24/HG), S Kone(19/HG)

Attacking 10’s/Second strikers -
M Cunha(25) , Bruno(31), B Mbeumo(25),
J Zirkzee (23) , A Gomes (24)

Striker
V Osimhen(26), J David (24), Chido Obi(18)



Big Squad of 29 but that allows us to whittle that down by Xmas to 26/27 plus we will always have 6/7 injured with such a high intensity system.

You play Amorim’s system you need a lot of players, because they get a lot of injuries through excessive running. This squad has the pace to play 3 at the back and even protect Harry Maguire in Certain Games, I also think if this team bonds and gets a good start then they could easily move up 10 places to top 5.

10 signings is FIFA career mode type stuff.

Some of these prices are mental as well, you're crazy if you think anyone is paying £15m for Casemiro or £25m for Mount - likewise if you think Barca and Brentford are letting Araujo and Mbeumo go for £45m apiece.

 

[Woziak]

10 signings is FIFA career mode type stuff.

Some of these prices are mental as well, you're crazy if you think anyone is paying £15m for Casemiro or £25m for Mount - likewise if you think Barca and Brentford are letting Araujo and Mbeumo go for £45m apiece.

Look at the contracts for Araujo and Mbeumo both only have 2 years, And this is the type of hard reboot needed, will it happen?
Barcelona were offering him for €55m this summer but he was injured!

Highly unlikely but half of those players in and most out is a bonafied great start this summer window.

More importantly with the savings on wages you could give Casemiro away and pay £10m more for Mbeumo and Araujo and be better off yearly with the clubs financial outlay still being less than it currently is is?

 

[MCDC]

United are 15th exploring your idea of youth already with players like ;
Zirkzee, Mainoo, Garnaucho, Hojlund, Yoro, Collyer, A Heaven, Chido, Dorgu

We have enough players under 23, we need at least 5 or 6 who are 24-27 in the summer.

Two free transfers like Angel Gomes and Johnathon David are super smart moves, Quenda will happen if Ruben doesn’t get sacked and we need at least two to three attacking players.

We don’t need £60m Maignan as a GK, James Trafford is the ideal choice at £30m. I keep saying pick a main core of young British/PL proven players.

My Picks -
Goalkeeper
A Onana out - £30m wages put £150k
J Trafford In - £30m wages £80k
Transfer Neutral Save £70k per week wages

Defence
T Mallacia out - £10m Wages £80k
V Lindelof out - Free Wages £120k
MDL out - £35m - Wages £190k
H Amass Out - £10m - wages £50k
J Evan’s Out - Free wages £65k
——————————————————————
R Araujo In - £45m wages £180k
J Branthwaite In - £50m £140k
Cost £40m Save £75k per week

Midfield
Casemiro out - £15m Wages £350k
Eriksen - Free Wage £170k
M Mount out - £25m Wages £250k
(he’s had enough chances, can’t stay fit either him needs shaw needs to go and he’s easier to sell!)
D Gore out - £5m - wages £10k
————————————————————————
A Gomes In Free - wages 125k
Ederson Or Hjlumand In £50m - wages 155k
Cost £5m Saving £500k per week

Attack
J Sancho out - £25m - wages £300k
M Rashford Out - £45m - Wages £350k
A Garnaucho Out - £60m - Wages £75k
R Hojlund Out - £40m - Wages £85k
Antony Out - £25m - Wages £200k
———————————————————————
V Osimhen In - £62m - Wages £265k
M Cunha In - £63m - Wages £180k
J Davids In - Free - Wages £135k
G Quenda in - £40m Wages £80k
B Mbeumo in - £45m wages £125k
Transfer Cost £20m Wages Saved £310k

The part that everyone is missing we currently have a huge wage bill and at least 6 players on over £200k per week that do not contribute, the headline here is United would spend £385m on 10 players, however United would generate £325m through player sales by having a mass clear out of 12 players plus 2 youth players and maybe selling even more more youth player to generate more profit. The net spend is £60-70m

The key here is wages saved over 1.07m per week or £55m per year which is currently what the club pays in interest charges to service the ldebt which the Glazers have burdened the club with!

This saving alone allows the club to do a complete hard reset irrespective of whether we are in Europe or Not, just like Chelsea did with a revenue of £200m less than united, the key issues are generating cash through sales and making sure that they have at least £100m worth of academy sales like Garnaucho and Rashford.

My complete hard reboot of Man United would be this squad for 25/26 Season ;

Goalkeepers - J Trafford(HG/21),
A Bayinder (26), E Harrison(HG/19),
T Heaton(GK Asst Coach)

Centre Backs - H Maguire(32/HG),
L Yoro(19/HG), R Araujo (26), J Branthwaite (22/HG), L Martinez(27), L Shaw(30/HG),
N Mazraoui (27)

Wing Backs - Amad(23), G Quenda(18/HG), D Leon(18/HG) , P Dorgu (21) , D Dalot(26)

Midfield Engine - T Collyer (22/HG),
M Ugarte (24), Ederson (25),
K Mainoo(20/HG), Bruno(32),
A Gomes(24/HG), S Kone(19/HG)

Attacking 10’s/Second strikers -
M Cunha(25) , Bruno(31), B Mbeumo(25),
J Zirkzee (23) , A Gomes (24)

Striker
V Osimhen(26), J David (24), Chido Obi(18)



Big Squad of 29 but that allows us to whittle that down by Xmas to 26/27 plus we will always have 6/7 injured with such a high intensity system.

You play Amorim’s system you need a lot of players, because they get a lot of injuries through excessive running. This squad has the pace to play 3 at the back and even protect Harry Maguire in Certain Games, I also think if this team bonds and gets a good start then they could easily move up 10 places to top 5.

Huge amount of effort just a few things:

Trafford has 2 years left on his deal would be affordable, question can he handle it.

We are not signing Araujo & Branthwaite, money will be spent elsewhere.

We are not getting 15m for Casemiro & 25m for Mount.

We are not signing all of Osimhen, Cunha & Mbuemo it would be one big signing max.

I actually think we will be after young promising kids who are talented looking for there second contracts such as Dibling & Delap.

 

[croadyman]

Huge amount of effort just a few things:

Trafford has 2 years left on his deal would be affordable, question can he handle it.

We are not signing Araujo & Branthwaite, money will be spent elsewhere.

We are not getting 15m for Casemiro & 25m for Mount.

We are not signing all of Osimhen, Cunha & Mbuemo it would be one big signing max.

I actually think we will be after young promising kids who are talented looking for there second contracts such as Dibling & Delap.

I would be happy with experienced striker signing like Osimhen/Mbuemo and then looking to pick up Dibling and Fernandes too, should then look at maybe Gomes and David on frees for depth.

 

[Roboc7]

Huge amount of effort just a few things:

Trafford has 2 years left on his deal would be affordable, question can he handle it.

We are not signing Araujo & Branthwaite, money will be spent elsewhere.

We are not getting 15m for Casemiro & 25m for Mount.

We are not signing all of Osimhen, Cunha & Mbuemo it would be one big signing max.

I actually think we will be after young promising kids who are talented looking for there second contracts such as Dibling & Delap.

Araujo is injury prone and to get Branthwaite we’d have to be willing to pay 70m or more.

Casemiro is going to cost us money to pay off and best case scenario if we don’t want Mount next season is a loan.

I can see us getting one of Cunha, Osimhen or someone similar but I agree that the signings will be mostly players like Dibling, Delap and Quenda. Am not expecting us to sign many free agents like Jonathan David as they will just be very highly paid squad players which is something I expect us to be really eager to avoid.

It’s good to be a leaner, younger squad on much lower wages next season.

 

[bucky]

Look at the contracts for Araujo and Mbeumo both only have 2 years, And this is the type of hard reboot needed, will it happen?
Barcelona were offering him for €55m this summer but he was injured!

Highly unlikely but half of those players in and most out is a bonafied great start this summer window.

More importantly with the savings on wages you could give Casemiro away and pay £10m more for Mbeumo and Araujo and be better off yearly with the clubs financial outlay still being less than it currently is is?

Maybe you've missed it, but Araújo recently extended his contract until 2031.

 

[Borussia Teeth]

United are 15th exploring your idea of youth already with players like ;
Zirkzee, Mainoo, Garnaucho, Hojlund, Yoro, Collyer, A Heaven, Chido, Dorgu

We have enough players under 23, we need at least 5 or 6 who are 24-27 in the summer.

Two free transfers like Angel Gomes and Johnathon David are super smart moves, Quenda will happen if Ruben doesn’t get sacked and we need at least two to three attacking players.

We don’t need £60m Maignan as a GK, James Trafford is the ideal choice at £30m. I keep saying pick a main core of young British/PL proven players.

My Picks -
Goalkeeper
A Onana out - £30m wages put £150k
J Trafford In - £30m wages £80k
Transfer Neutral Save £70k per week wages

Defence
T Mallacia out - £10m Wages £80k
V Lindelof out - Free Wages £120k
MDL out - £35m - Wages £190k
H Amass Out - £10m - wages £50k
J Evan’s Out - Free wages £65k
——————————————————————
R Araujo In - £45m wages £180k
J Branthwaite In - £50m £140k
Cost £40m Save £75k per week

Midfield
Casemiro out - £15m Wages £350k
Eriksen - Free Wage £170k
M Mount out - £25m Wages £250k
(he’s had enough chances, can’t stay fit either him needs shaw needs to go and he’s easier to sell!)
D Gore out - £5m - wages £10k
————————————————————————
A Gomes In Free - wages 125k
Ederson Or Hjlumand In £50m - wages 155k
Cost £5m Saving £500k per week

Attack
J Sancho out - £25m - wages £300k
M Rashford Out - £45m - Wages £350k
A Garnaucho Out - £60m - Wages £75k
R Hojlund Out - £40m - Wages £85k
Antony Out - £25m - Wages £200k
———————————————————————
V Osimhen In - £62m - Wages £265k
M Cunha In - £63m - Wages £180k
J Davids In - Free - Wages £135k
G Quenda in - £40m Wages £80k
B Mbeumo in - £45m wages £125k
Transfer Cost £20m Wages Saved £310k

The part that everyone is missing we currently have a huge wage bill and at least 6 players on over £200k per week that do not contribute, the headline here is United would spend £385m on 10 players, however United would generate £325m through player sales by having a mass clear out of 12 players plus 2 youth players and maybe selling even more more youth player to generate more profit. The net spend is £60-70m

The key here is wages saved over 1.07m per week or £55m per year which is currently what the club pays in interest charges to service the ldebt which the Glazers have burdened the club with!

This saving alone allows the club to do a complete hard reset irrespective of whether we are in Europe or Not, just like Chelsea did with a revenue of £200m less than united, the key issues are generating cash through sales and making sure that they have at least £100m worth of academy sales like Garnaucho and Rashford.

My complete hard reboot of Man United would be this squad for 25/26 Season ;

Goalkeepers - J Trafford(HG/21),
A Bayinder (26), E Harrison(HG/19),
T Heaton(GK Asst Coach)

Centre Backs - H Maguire(32/HG),
L Yoro(19/HG), R Araujo (26), J Branthwaite (22/HG), L Martinez(27), L Shaw(30/HG),
N Mazraoui (27)

Wing Backs - Amad(23), G Quenda(18/HG), D Leon(18/HG) , P Dorgu (21) , D Dalot(26)

Midfield Engine - T Collyer (22/HG),
M Ugarte (24), Ederson (25),
K Mainoo(20/HG), Bruno(32),
A Gomes(24/HG), S Kone(19/HG)

Attacking 10’s/Second strikers -
M Cunha(25) , Bruno(31), B Mbeumo(25),
J Zirkzee (23) , A Gomes (24)

Striker
V Osimhen(26), J David (24), Chido Obi(18)



Big Squad of 29 but that allows us to whittle that down by Xmas to 26/27 plus we will always have 6/7 injured with such a high intensity system.

You play Amorim’s system you need a lot of players, because they get a lot of injuries through excessive running. This squad has the pace to play 3 at the back and even protect Harry Maguire in Certain Games, I also think if this team bonds and gets a good start then they could easily move up 10 places to top 5.

Mate, I see a lot of these kind of posts from you. You always write us as buying low and selling high when in reality, the opposite is true. 40m for Hoijlund? 15m for Cas? You think Brentford sell Mbuemo for 45? Cmon now