Westminster Politics

Frosty said:
Nick Brown resigns from Labour over ‘complete farce’ disciplinary process

Nick Brown, a veteran Labour MP and former chief whip, has announced he has resigned from the party over a long-running internal disciplinary process involving him that Brown said had become “a complete farce”.

In a lengthy and furious letter, Brown said he would not stand again at the next election, in part because he is now 73 and has been in parliament for 40 years.

However, he said this decision was made against the “backdrop of a long-running internal Labour party disciplinary process against me – a process which I consider (and am advised) is so fundamentally, and inexcusably, flawed that I can no longer engage with it”.

In his letter, released via the legal firm Carter-Ruck, Brown said the complaint, the details of which have not been made public, came from “a political rival within the party” and concerned an alleged event said to have taken place more than 25 years earlier.

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ns-labour-complete-farce-disciplinary-process
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So he's jumping before he's pushed.
 
Buster15 said:
Agreed.
He will win the vote. But the question is... will it mean anything. Will anyone actually be sent to Rwanda.
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Yes, Rishi will do his 'Grand Old Duke of York' act and march his troops up the hill (for now) then down again for Christmas, then up again in January... the press will have a field day!

Yes, after the GE they will be running package holidays to Rwanda at discount rates to try and recover the money already spent :lol:
 
Buster15 said:
Just listening to a very informative discussion on Radio 5live. First from a man who has recently worked in Rwanda and the DRC. And he is absolutely adamant that Rwanda is not by any stretch of the imagination a safe country.

And it has been pointed out that our government has already committed close to £300m with another £700m allocated to the Rwanda plan. £1bn it is costing.
And the maximum number of immigrants Rwanda can process each year....500 maximum.

So. To put this into perspective. In 2022 there were 745,000 immigrants coming into the UK.
And all the narrative from the government is about the possibility of sending a maximum of 500/year to Rwanda!!!
All for the tidy sum of £1,000,000 of your and my money.
Fantastic eh.
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“a government of sadists deliberately beating them up in order to show how tough they are” ....at great expense
 
Buster15 said:
Just listening to a very informative discussion on Radio 5live. First from a man who has recently worked in Rwanda and the DRC. And he is absolutely adamant that Rwanda is not by any stretch of the imagination a safe country.

And it has been pointed out that our government has already committed close to £300m with another £700m allocated to the Rwanda plan. £1bn it is costing.
And the maximum number of immigrants Rwanda can process each year....500 maximum.

So. To put this into perspective. In 2022 there were 745,000 immigrants coming into the UK.
And all the narrative from the government is about the possibility of sending a maximum of 500/year to Rwanda!!!
All for the tidy sum of £1,000,000 of your and my money.
Fantastic eh.
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You forgot the best bit:

"The UK has also committed to resettling a small but unspecified number of vulnerable refugees currently in Rwanda"

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-9568/

500 go from the UK to Rwanda, but we get some of their refugees in return!
 
Paul the Wolf said:
It doesn't matter whether he wins the vote. It's just for show. They talk about legal migration which has exploded because of Brexit. They talk of asylum seekers and refugees, who aren't illegal, and which is a tiny figure. These agitate the public. But they never talk about the real illegal immigrants like visa overstayers and they have no idea of the numbers of real illegal immigrants so they don't mention them and demonise all the others.

It's never going to pass international law so it will cost them many billions of pounds more if their trade deals are annulled and the Windsor framework/NIP is put in danger because of breaking international law.
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Yes indeed.
 
Buster15 said:
Just listening to a very informative discussion on Radio 5live. First from a man who has recently worked in Rwanda and the DRC. And he is absolutely adamant that Rwanda is not by any stretch of the imagination a safe country.

And it has been pointed out that our government has already committed close to £300m with another £700m allocated to the Rwanda plan. £1bn it is costing.
And the maximum number of immigrants Rwanda can process each year....500 maximum.

So. To put this into perspective. In 2022 there were 745,000 immigrants coming into the UK.
And all the narrative from the government is about the possibility of sending a maximum of 500/year to Rwanda!!!
All for the tidy sum of £1,000,000 of your and my money.
Fantastic eh.
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200,000 pounds per person. Like you would be able to buy them a house in some places in UK
 
They can try but each individual case now will make its way through the court and be heard on its individual merits which will be very expensive and will result in very few actually being sent.
 
TheGame said:
What a Cnut this guy is:

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What a moronic argument. The NHS relies on foreign workers to keep it remotely functional because these same morons overwork and underpay the staff that do work to the point of mental and physical fatigue where they no longer want to work for the NHS in the first place.

Stupid cnut.

How would he even know what the schools are bloody like in any case. His children are no doubt privately educated and this wanker would have been too. What links the NHS and Schools together? Both overworked and underpaid.

Stupid cnut.
 
TheGame said:
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His reply is hilariously bad. He never ceases to amaze me just how weak he is.

11646625

:lol:
 
Drainy said:
Starmer completely played him. Started off his questions with a couple of jabs at his ego then tone shifted to somber knowing he would still be seething.
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Lets be real, Starmer doesn't give one flying crap about poor little Liam either. That's the sad truth. Just a way to score political points.
 
There was a line today that made me chuckle at my desk while eating my lunch.

Starmer (to Rishi); clearly the Conservative Party have found their donkey for the Christmas nativity play. It might be a bit harder for them to find three wise men though!

great stuff.
 
Walrus said:
There was a line today that made me chuckle at my desk while eating my lunch.

Starmer (to Rishi); clearly the Conservative Party have found their donkey for the Christmas nativity play. It might be a bit harder for them to find three wise men though!

great stuff.
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That’s a spin on the age old and slightly less PC joke about the nativity play being cancelled as they couldn’t find a virgin for the role of Mary.
 
Pexbo said:
That’s a spin on the age old and slightly less PC joke about the nativity play being cancelled as they couldn’t find a virgin for the role of Mary.
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Plenty of cooks to play Joseph, though

I hate that term but couldn't resist
 
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