Westminster Politics

Cruella is desperate for violence & has done nothing but add fuel to the fire. Despicable cnut.
 
Hearing the home secretary's comments, my initial reaction was feck this country if that's how the govt view us and treat us.

But then that's what she wants, just look on twitter, all kinds of racists have been emboldened. She is trying to start a full on race war in this country. And she's brown, and the pm too...
 
I find Sunak more despicable. Even Liz Truss in the dying days of her premiership, sacked this cnut.
 
I kind of wish there was a rule that if you get sacked from government you don't get to come back but then there would be nobody left.
 
I mean, it's fairly obvious that this government is agitating for a bit of violence so they can feed the outrage machine and further enflame the culture war. Only way they can cling on to power.
 
I mean, it's fairly obvious that this government is agitating for a bit of violence so they can feed the outrage machine and further enflame the culture war. Only way they can cling on to power.

I think it's more likely than not that they as a government are wanting to put pressure on the police to ban the demonstration, however Braverman has her own agenda and knows whether she is sacked or not she's strengthening her position in the party by weakening Sunak and being the new Loony candidate for the hard right to wank over
 
She’s also trying her best to get sacked. British politics is in the gutter.
Imagine intentionally trying to get sacked at your job. Everyone of us would be blacklisted and would not get another job again.
but a minister of HRH can sabotage, get sacked and end up with a promotion. It’s ridiculous.
 
She’s also trying her best to get sacked. British politics is in the gutter.
Imagine intentionally trying to get sacked at your job. Everyone of us would be blacklisted and would not get another job again.
but a minister of HRH can sabotage, get sacked and end up with a promotion. It’s ridiculous.
Sunak knows that sacking her would cause a revolt by the ERG and likely end his Premiership. He also knows that he’s so weak that keeping her will just continue to damage him.

Nadine Dorries was on a self promo tour on BBC breakfast this morning and she claimed that Braveman has no chance anyway and that Kemi Badenoch has been groomed to take over for a long while now.
 
Sunak knows that sacking her would cause a revolt by the ERG and likely end his Premiership. He also knows that he’s so weak that keeping her will just continue to damage him.

Nadine Dorries was on a self promo tour on BBC breakfast this morning and she claimed that Braveman has no chance anyway and that Kemi Badenoch has been groomed to take over for a long while now.

:lol: how depressing that there are three names and it's hard to find a redeemable feature in any of them. The future is rotten.
 
I mean, it's fairly obvious that this government is agitating for a bit of violence so they can feed the outrage machine and further enflame the culture war. Only way they can cling on to power.

Exactly.
And Braverman is trying to justify her ridiculous decisions and speeches by becoming ever more extreme.
She is a thoroughly vile individual.
 
About time she was called out publicly by the opposition and legitimate news organisations, as the vile racist cnut that she really is.

It astounds me that these publicly elected officials can spew this bile without fear of repercussion. Would absolutely love for her to get a taste of her own medicine someday. Absolute fecking scum!
 
She's a skidmark on modern politics.

It's clear she is pitching to get the leadership post Sunak by demonstrating to the noncey, old racist white guys that run the Tory party that she will do exactly as they wish, however extreme.

Clear she is basically ticking boxes at this point.
  • Remove civil liberties, protesting/police bills.
  • Remove Government transparency, stop FOIR.
  • Gut and destroy immigration system.
  • Ejection from ECHR
  • Privatising the NHS
  • Cutting welfare to zero
It's all a play and it's surreal and grim.
 
I know she's in a safe Tory seat, but there really needs to be a concentrated effort to remove Bravermann and her ilk at the next GE. Labour and the Lib Dems need to come to some sort of under the table agreement as both of them are pretty much neck and neck in terms of proportional support in her constituency.

Horrid cnuts like Raab, Dorries and my own MP have deprived us of the satisfaction of enjoying their Portillo moment, so what I would give seeing Bravermann subjected to the same humiliation. Yes I know they'd likely parachute her into another safe seat, but that would be another humiliation in itself.
 
I know she's in a safe Tory seat, but there really needs to be a concentrated effort to remove Bravermann and her ilk at the next GE. Labour and the Lib Dems need to come to some sort of under the table agreement as both of them are pretty much neck and neck in terms of proportional support in her constituency.

Horrid cnuts like Raab, Dorries and my own MP have deprived us of the satisfaction of enjoying their Portillo moment, so what I would give seeing Bravermann subjected to the same humiliation. Yes I know they'd likely parachute her into another safe seat, but that would be another humiliation in itself.
Honestly don’t think there are any “safe seats” for the Tories this next general election. Tory voter turn out will be so low, there might some that can hold their nose and vote Labour or Lib Deb but I expect most will just stay at home.
 
Honestly don’t think there are any “safe seats” for the Tories this next general election. Tory voter turn out will be so low, there might some that can hold their nose and vote Labour or Lib Deb but I expect most will just stay at home.
Perhaps, but she does seem to command a far healthier majority than her colleagues.

I'm also weary of the shy Tory effect possibly giving her a bit of a lifeline at the ballot box.
 
The mad thing is no one even remotely mentioned or thought about violence when discussing this March until Braverman raised her ugly head.
 
The mad thing is no one even remotely mentioned or thought about violence when discussing this March until Braverman raised her ugly head.

The right wing would love nothing more than violence after which they can say "I told you so"
 
Braverman is genuinely unhinged. Thank feck this government's on it's last legs.

She's also inadvertently the best advert for these weekend's marches organizers could hope for :lol:
 
She's also inadvertently the best advert for these weekend's marches organizers could hope for
I don’t think so. Because of her, cnuts like Tommy Robinson are going there to look for trouble. The focus is no more about Palestine.
 
I don’t think so. Because of her, cnuts like Tommy Robinson are going there to look for trouble. The focus is no more about Palestine.

Hopefully that doesn't end up being the case. But she's argued herself stupidly into a position where the protest has to go wrong.
 
Why would she be sacked? For what? Seems to me any time someone has an opinion that isn't accepted narrative there are attempts to stymy that debate with calls of "divisiveness" or often "racism" or "something-phobia." People that use such rhetoric know they've immediately got someone over a barrell in the current climate. Then they attempt to get them sacked.

Bollocks. The worst thing she said was about homeless people and tents because the fact is it's a neglected issue, our government seems to find money for many things but not solving a problem that disgraces our nation and has done for decades so she shouldn't have used such language about tents which they don't exactly pick out of joy.
 
Why would she be sacked? For what? Seems to me any time someone has an opinion that isn't accepted narrative there are attempts to stymy that debate with calls of "divisiveness" or often "racism" or "something-phobia." People that use such rhetoric know they've immediately got someone over a barrell in the current climate. Then they attempt to get them sacked.

Bollocks. The worst thing she said was about homeless people and tents because the fact is it's a neglected issue, our government seems to find money for many things but not solving a problem that disgraces our nation and has done for decades so she shouldn't have used such language about tents which they don't exactly pick out of joy.
Its literally explained in a tweet a few posts up.
 
Its literally explained in a tweet a few posts up.
Yes but that's only a technical reason which is in play because of a ridiculous and unjustified furore because someone has less conventional views and airs them. So really it's about content getting shut down not a technical transgression in my view.
 
Yes but that's only a technical reason which is in play because of a ridiculous and unjustified furore because someone has less conventional views and airs them. So really it's about content getting shut down not a technical transgression in my view.
I mean she's violated the ministerial code, for the second time in her career I should add - the first of which meant she was forced to resign. Trivialise it all you want but she clearly has a history of subordination and ministerial misconduct.
 
Why would she be sacked? For what? Seems to me any time someone has an opinion that isn't accepted narrative there are attempts to stymy that debate with calls of "divisiveness" or often "racism" or "something-phobia." People that use such rhetoric know they've immediately got someone over a barrell in the current climate. Then they attempt to get them sacked.

Bollocks. The worst thing she said was about homeless people and tents because the fact is it's a neglected issue, our government seems to find money for many things but not solving a problem that disgraces our nation and has done for decades so she shouldn't have used such language about tents which they don't exactly pick out of joy.
The old I'm not a racist but...argument.
 
Yes but that's only a technical reason which is in play because of a ridiculous and unjustified furore because someone has less conventional views and airs them. So really it's about content getting shut down not a technical transgression in my view.

So you are saying that Braverman's views should not be shut down and she has a right to air them, whilst using that right to prevent and restrict others' right to protest? :wenger:
 
Yes but that's only a technical reason which is in play because of a ridiculous and unjustified furore because someone has less conventional views and airs them. So really it's about content getting shut down not a technical transgression in my view.
She's the fecking Home Secretary, not writing an op ed in the Spectator.
 
It makes no sense for Braverman to be going for the PM role and some tories supporting her with that. She's virtually universally disliked even amongst tory voters. YouGov reckons she has 15% of people being supportive of her and that usually nosedives once people become PM.
 
Why would she be sacked? For what? Seems to me any time someone has an opinion that isn't accepted narrative there are attempts to stymy that debate with calls of "divisiveness" or often "racism" or "something-phobia." People that use such rhetoric know they've immediately got someone over a barrell in the current climate. Then they attempt to get them sacked.

Bollocks. The worst thing she said was about homeless people and tents because the fact is it's a neglected issue, our government seems to find money for many things but not solving a problem that disgraces our nation and has done for decades so she shouldn't have used such language about tents which they don't exactly pick out of joy.

She’s the Home Secretary and seems to be going out of her way to incite a riot in order to further her leadership ambitions. Even in the appalling populist depths to which UK politics has sunk in the last 7 years, her Trump tactics represent a new low.
 
Just watched a clip of the Nadine Doris interview, does anyone know anything about Dougie Smith? Other than the parties?