It's a certain weird kind of obliviousness. She genuinely doesn't get it. Is it because she is stupid? Is it because she psychologically can't allow the threat to her worldview? Is it that she is only surrounded by people who share her ideology? Intellectually she isn't that stupid, she went to oxford. So where has the wiring gone wrong? Politicians / political ideologues are weird.
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That's not a sign of intelligence
Lots of stupid people went to Oxford
Some bearded bloke from 1851
Just history stuck on repeat
Just history stuck on repeat
"First they came for the pro-growth coalition leader, and I did not speak out.......Because I was a leftist antifa socialist hedge fund manager. "
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Also wtf is going on here
The power of time and indoctrination. You say conservative and economy over and over and a quarter of the population just go "yep doing a bang up job"
It's bizarre, given she got a scholarship to Oxford, qualified as a chartered accountant at Shell and went on to become economic director at C&W. She clearly can't be totally dim, but to be that blinkered by ideology is remarkable.
In the Telegraph piece, even her defences end up making her look worse.
'People forget the bond markets were very volatile'- they were, so maybe tone down the unfunded tax cuts and outline a credible long-term debt reduction plan.
'The Treasury didn't warn me about LDI funds'- she was chief secretary to the Treasury for two years, so was as blind to the issue as them.
It's a terrible piece and no idea what she expects from it realistically.
Having listened to various speeches over the years about trade and finance it is patently obvious that she has no idea what she is talking about. It's not just bluster and lies, she really is that dim.
How she got to where she did, I doubt had anything to do with her academic ability or intelligence.
How she got to where she did, I doubt had anything to do with her academic ability or intelligence.
The damage the Tories have done to their own credibility over the last 8 years is glorious. They'll lose the next election and have to rebrand as New Conservatives like Labour did.
I mean it would be short sighted to assume she's just a fecking idiot, and not think there was some really complex political manoeuvring behind why she crashed and burned as PM.
Right?
Right?
I would call it a damning indictment of our education system. Being able to add up and follow some arbitrary set of rules doesn't qualify you to write the rules. Intelligence limited to the narrowest focus is why Chinese style education should not be looked up to but resisted wherever possible.
Problem solving, cross linkage of ideas, good decision making taking into account multiple factors and goals, these are what we should be aiming to achieve with education. Liz Truss is an educated fool in as extreme a sense as you could wish for. Her foolishness being only exceeded by her ambition.
I would love that to be right.... but never underestimate the British electorate for shooting themselves in both feet while cutting their nose off to spite their faces.
Labour can not get away with anything.
But the Tories can absolutely trash the economy and everything else, and it is Labour fault.
Easy. She was branding herself as Margaret Thatcher the 2nd.
And despite all those mistakes Thatcher made and all those years that have passed, the Tories are still besotted with her. Mainly because she was seen as strong and took on the nasty Communist Unions. That is why the Tories have elected 2 further females and Labour none.
Something for everyone in Shapps' Laura K interview.
Truss tax cuts were ‘not right approach’ before tackling inflation, says Shapps
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/feb/05/liz-truss-tax-policy-inflation-grant-shapps
Liz Truss was 'right' to argue for lower taxes, Grant Shapps says
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/02/05/liz-truss-right-argue-lower-taxes-grant-shapps-says/
Truss tax cuts were ‘not right approach’ before tackling inflation, says Shapps
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/feb/05/liz-truss-tax-policy-inflation-grant-shapps
Liz Truss was 'right' to argue for lower taxes, Grant Shapps says
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/02/05/liz-truss-right-argue-lower-taxes-grant-shapps-says/
Watching these people get massively lucrative jobs and still controlling the narrative after losing their seats is going to be very depressing.
And the price of a single ticket will no doubt remain the same. Effectively increasing the price of rail fares by about 80-90% in most of the country.
They won't stop until they have stripped everyone of anything of value and reinstated a feudal system. Anyone that descents will be labelled a left wing radical and isolated.
Already saw people online explaining how this is a good thing because it'll give people more freedom to choose their return date in case plans change, as if buying two single tickets wasn't already an option. They're either being disingenuous, blinded by party allegiance or idiots.
If anyone can be arsed actually reading the Telegraph article the twittershite links to it says:
Single-leg pricing was trialled in 2020 by east coast train operator LNER. Return tickets were dropped in favour of two single tickets at the same price.
Personally I doubt whether the Telegraph knows what's going to happen anyway, actually I doubt the government knows on railways, they change their mind annually, but I don't think the plan is what some of you have suggested.
Single-leg pricing was trialled in 2020 by east coast train operator LNER. Return tickets were dropped in favour of two single tickets at the same price.
Personally I doubt whether the Telegraph knows what's going to happen anyway, actually I doubt the government knows on railways, they change their mind annually, but I don't think the plan is what some of you have suggested.
Removing the return tickets is absolutely pointless. All they have to do is reduce the single ticket price.
I read that this won't impact the price:
The two-way tickets, which offer a discounted rate, will be replaced by “single-leg pricing” which will mean that the price of two singles will be the same as the current return fare, according to the Telegraph. The idea was trialled by London North East Railway (LNER) in 2020.
https://www.theguardian.com/busines...s-expected-to-be-scrapped-in-uk-rail-shake-up
The two-way tickets, which offer a discounted rate, will be replaced by “single-leg pricing” which will mean that the price of two singles will be the same as the current return fare, according to the Telegraph. The idea was trialled by London North East Railway (LNER) in 2020.
https://www.theguardian.com/busines...s-expected-to-be-scrapped-in-uk-rail-shake-up
The thing is that for a journey of any distance you really need a seat reservation anyway, which means booking the return, and whether you call that two singles or not is irrelevant. From the revenue point of view seat reservations on a specified train allow quota control, so lower prices can be offered on trains that otherwise would not sell out, in the same way that airlines, hotels and the like work, or even retailers who sell stuff at full price, taking advantage from that, and every so often have a sale to sell stuff to people that otherwise wouldn't be buyers. Varied pricing is commonplace, but in travel the key is specified services, so you know how many seats are taken and can price according to demand.
The idea of singles has a slight merit, but reeks of politicians telling their think tanks to come up with an idea that will make them look like they've come up with an idea. Quite likely they've asked a focus group what they want and started with that, from what someone has said off the top of their head.
It's kind of worked though, for every person on here that's kneejerked into criticism without actually reading what's been said there's another saying 'what a good idea' because they won't spend more than five seconds thinking about it either. Politics eh.
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If they reduce the price of single tickets then it could work.
A single ticket from Manchester Picadilly to Chester is currently £17.50. An open return is £18.50.
So are they going to reduce the single fare to £9.25? If they do then fair enough.
A single ticket from Manchester Picadilly to Chester is currently £17.50. An open return is £18.50.
So are they going to reduce the single fare to £9.25? If they do then fair enough.
That’s basically an introductory offer. You can guarantee that once the current return ticket can no longer be used as a reference point due to inflation, the prices of single tickets will rise sharply.
Just another way to feck everyone over.
Bing. Go.
Edit: This is aimed at those people that "escaped to the country" with dreams of living the WFH life style. Encouraged by large corporations and the government during Covid. Unsurprisingly, now the large corps want them back in the (city) offices and train company execs want double their large bonuses that were not forthcoming from the lower foot fall earlier.
I considered upsizing too, but I'm such a cynical bastard I suspected this was exactly what they wanted me to do. So I stayed put ready to be able cycle in comfortably when the call came (and the fares rose).
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- Liz Truss said she would not want to be PM again. Asked if she wanted the job again, she said: “No”. But she said she wanted to carry on making the arguments for her beliefs. She said:
1. Sighs of relief throughout the kingdom.
2. Presume she is talking about herself.
How long does Sturgeon have left do we think?
Don't the SNP have a dominant grip in Scotland? Can't see her going unless that changes.
How to look like you're taking a dig at your party, but only name people you fundamentally disagree with. What a dick.
Oh boy
30p Lee is the new deputy party chairman for the tories
30p Lee is the new deputy party chairman for the tories
Christ, their subs bench is weaker than ours.
