Westminster Politics

I hate to say this but how is this the case when state schools are already funded by the government? Asking out of ignorance as much as anything.
It’s referring to the COVID loans function the government implemented (not really loans, they wrote most of them off).
 
It’s referring to the COVID loans function the government implemented (not really loans, they wrote most of them off).

True but I'm trying to work out if the divisive nature of the headline is fair or not. As far as I'm aware, those loans were only available to private businesses so naturally state schools wouldn't be able to apply. What I suppose I'm wondering is, by comparison, what was the extra spend per school for state schools that needed to buy new supplies during that period (e.g. IT equipment/tablets/laptops for kids) and how does that compare to the extra funding private schools received via the COVID loans system.
 
Its sad that despite how much of a disaster the Tories have been, many will still vote for them.
Heck, even if Labour wins next election, i expect the public to quickly turn on them when they aren't capable of fixing everything and vote in the Tories shortly after again.
 
Its sad that despite how much of a disaster the Tories have been, many will still vote for them.
Heck, even if Labour wins next election, i expect the public to quickly turn on them when they aren't capable of fixing everything and vote in the Tories shortly after again.
Well we don't want the winter of discontent happening again do we.
 
So the people with the capitol pay feck all while the young prop everybody up with the scraps they’re left with from holding everything else up
 
Exempting over 50s from income tax! What a ridiculous idea, although to be fair surely that is not really a proper proposal?

The young need to be taxed more and paid less so that they work more.

The old need to be exempt from tax so that they work more.

Hmmm...
 
Anyone listening to the ‘Partygate: The Inside Story’ podcast by Paul Brand?

What an absolute disgrace that lost are.
 
Just playing Devil’s Advocate here, and the Tories are indeed putting this fascistic anti-strike laws in, whilst not infringing on a right to strike (apparently) as it’s a ‘life-saving’ law that’s vitally needed, why the feck did it take them 13yrs to come up with it?

A cynic could suggest they’re making it all up as they go along.
The whole problem is that we haven't got the minimum standards on a good day with every nurse and doctor at work. I remember Sky talking to a nurse on the picket line when the nursing strikes first started and they said. 'IF you are striking because you can't make ends meet wont you be worse off if you strike because you will be losing pay?' The nurse came back, 'no we are so understaffed that I can make up my shift tomorrow. They are begging people to do extra shifts.'
 
The whole problem is that we haven't got the minimum standards on a good day with every nurse and doctor at work. I remember them talking to a nurse on the picket line when the nursing strikes first started and they said. 'IF you are striking because you can't make ends meet wont you be worse off if you strike because you will be losing pay?' The nurse came back, 'no we are so understaffed that I can make up my shift tomorrow. They are begging people to do extra shifts.'

I apologise as I was being sarcastic about the Devil’s Advocate bit. They’d like to frame this as NHS workers putting lives at risk (how fecking dare they!) but if it was such a concern, and they care so damn much, why did it take 13yrs to get around to it.
 
I apologise as I was being sarcastic about the Devil’s Advocate bit. They’d like to frame this as NHS workers putting lives at risk (how fecking dare they!) but if it was such a concern, and they care so damn much, why did it take 13yrs to get around to it.
No I got you I didn't think you were against the nurses. I should apologise for not making it clear that I realised you didn't accept the Tory spin but were ridiculing it.
 
Exempting over 50s from income tax! What a ridiculous idea, although to be fair surely that is not really a proper proposal?

Retire for 6 months then ‘agree’ to go back and get 6 months without income tax. Same income(ish) for half the work…

They’re really desperate aren’t they!
 


Shockingly poor turnout!

It's a fair rule to have in place and I'm a union member. 50% turnout needed to enact any action doesn't sound like too much hassle provided the union doesn't shit the bed sending out ballots, and if people can't be arsed responding it's their own fecking faults.
 
It's a fair rule to have in place and I'm a union member. 50% turnout needed to enact any action doesn't sound like too much hassle provided the union doesn't shit the bed sending out ballots, and if people can't be arsed responding it's their own fecking faults.

Forgive me if I'm misunderstanding, but are they sending out like... actual ballots? Surely it's done digitally?
 
Forgive me if I'm misunderstanding, but are they sending out like... actual ballots? Surely it's done digitally?
Depends on the union. With us it's digital but who knows with teachers. In my experience they complain theatrically when you swap their 1970s rolling whiteboard for a touchscreen.
 
Forgive me if I'm misunderstanding, but are they sending out like... actual ballots? Surely it's done digitally?

Some unions are still doing it by post.

From memory, the government have discouraged/even suggested banning electronic ones. I assume because it would make it easier and likely encourage more industrial action.
 
Forgive me if I'm misunderstanding, but are they sending out like... actual ballots? Surely it's done digitally?

There's a suggestion the law will soon call for it to be actual ballots. One of the petty little things the government wants to make it slightly more difficult to organise a strike.
 
Some unions are still doing it by post.

From memory, the government have discouraged/even suggested banning electronic ones. I assume because it would make it easier and likely encourage more industrial action.

Yep, I did a quick google:

" unions are regulated by the 1992 Trade Union and Labour Relations Act, which orders postal-only ballots "
 
Depends on the union. With us it's digital but who knows with teachers. In my experience they complain theatrically when you swap their 1970s rolling whiteboard for a touchscreen.

I mean the smartboards are objectively worse than the whiteboards, to be fair, for 95% of what you do as a teacher.

We do the strike ballots digitally though, have for at least a decade (when I first participated in one).
 
I mean the smartboards are objectively worse than the whiteboards, to be fair, for 95% of what you do as a teacher.

We do the strike ballots digitally though, have for at least a decade (when I first participated in one).
Smartboards sure but I'm talking about in-glass interactive touchscreens with screen sharing and page save/loading. If engineering lecturers can use them with no precision issues then Jimmy or Sally drawing pictures of werewolves (or whatever they teach in schools nowadays) shouldn't have a problem either.

Generally it's a refusal to learn new methods, in my experience anyway which is obviously not universal. We went fully digital a few years ago and half of the teaching staff bitched and moaned about it. So they got put on to mandatory training sessions (which I had to do because ironically they refused to be taught by someone without teaching qualifications) and suddenly they were positive about it. That's probably the biggest issue though; lack of training and support for teachers from sub-par IT departments.
 
Depends on the union. With us it's digital but who knows with teachers. In my experience they complain theatrically when you swap their 1970s rolling whiteboard for a touchscreen.
The teaching unions should ask the rail unions to organise their ballots for them. A bit embarrassing of course but at least it would get the job done.
 
Smartboards sure but I'm talking about in-glass interactive touchscreens with screen sharing and page save/loading. If engineering lecturers can use them with no precision issues then Jimmy or Sally drawing pictures of werewolves (or whatever they teach in schools nowadays) shouldn't have a problem either.

The British school system must be rolling in money, I've never seen (or heard of) that where I've worked in Norway.
 
The British school system must be rolling in money, I've never seen (or heard of) that where I've worked in Norway.
Sorry, my bad. I'm talking about colleges and unis. The schools are fecked and I genuinely don't blame school teachers for striking because they've been screwed more than we have, by far. They can't even get enough teaching assistants and textbooks let alone new equipment.
 
Sorry, my bad. I'm talking about colleges and unis. The schools are fecked and I genuinely don't blame school teachers for striking because they've been screwed more than we have, by far. They can't even get enough teaching assistants and textbooks let alone new equipment.

Ah, I see! I don't remember any fancy screens from my time at Uni, but then I studied history so it didn't feel super necessary.
 
Ah, I see! I don't remember any fancy screens from my time at Uni, but then I studied history so it didn't feel super necessary.
We popped in to a uni in Edinburgh because they wanted some guidance from us about their new lecture theatres. They were upgrading a two year old room and had a budget for one theatre that was more than we get for ten classrooms, so I know how you feel.
 
We popped in to a uni in Edinburgh because they wanted some guidance from us about their new lecture theatres. They were upgrading a two year old room and had a budget for one theatre that was more than we get for ten classrooms, so I know how you feel.

Upper secondary schools in Norway generally don't have big funding problems, actually. They're funded at a different level than elementary and lower secondary (county vs municipality), so we haven't really had any issues with old textbooks or missing teaching materiel and what have you. There are some really old primary and lower secondary schools out there, though.
 
Back in the day, 'chalk & talk' was the favoured method when I was a part time (day release) engineering student in FE. Seemingly endless and boring lectures (2 hours at a time) and endless note taking for students were the order of the day. One lecturers favourite was filling his full size hinged roller board time and time again... the students nicknamed him 'Seven boards Sam', because he generally covered seven sides in a normal lecture.

Funny thing was when you came to read the notes afterwards, they all made sense, and were precise in the knowledge they passed on and generally indicated at least one of the topics to appear on the end of term exam paper.

The chalk was also useful as a 'lecturer to student' missile'... directed at those on the back row who fell asleep!

A favourite trick of the class to relieve the monotony was to try to break the lecturers rhythm by asking questions like "Sir...what did you think about United's result at the weekend"? It worked virtually every time if the lecturer followed football, they would either be a United fan, or what we now call ABU's, either way it stopped note-taking, for a while anyway!
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