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She cannot answer the question about how many people voted for this massive change in direction 
. She is so fecking helpless.
Gove sticking the boot in now too, whilst pretending to sound polite initially about Truss.
. She is so fecking helpless.Gove sticking the boot in now too, whilst pretending to sound polite initially about Truss.
Gove just confirmed he won’t vote for the package.
She’s dead in the water.
She’s dead in the water.
She cannot answer the question about how many people voted for this massive change in direction
Gove sticking the boot in now too, whilst pretending to sound polite initially about Truss.
Long pause.
Leans in…
“What do you mean by that?”
How did she become Prime Minister? I can’t understand how any one with a lack of any personality can get so far in life. And clearly she’s not very bright either.
She’s the culmination of libertarian think tanks ploughing money into the Tory party.
It took weeks and weeks of hustings and campaigning to end up with the very best Tory candidate.
You kinda have to watch it. It was just a terrible interview from start to finish. She showed a complete lack of understanding to the mechanics of the economy multiple times. She stumbled over some really simple questions.
The Tories are clearly taking the piss, first Boris, now truss next they’ll put ‘dusty bin’ in charge
She's the most gormless cnut to ever hold the job. If she was a robot you'd assume it was malfunctioning.
There are enough evil cnuts in the party that might have had enough bolshiness to navigate the disastrous budget but you'd suspect her inability to resemble a competent human being, let alone an experienced politician, will be her downfall.
That Mr Bean caught in the headlights thing she does after being asked the most obvious questions is one hell of a look.
There are enough evil cnuts in the party that might have had enough bolshiness to navigate the disastrous budget but you'd suspect her inability to resemble a competent human being, let alone an experienced politician, will be her downfall.
That Mr Bean caught in the headlights thing she does after being asked the most obvious questions is one hell of a look.
And the fact that she flatly refused to listen to anything. It was a case of insert battery and press start. And talk until the batteries run out.
It is so much easier to just talk than listen and answer questions.
Something Boris was adept at.
Who's getting all the pies?
music to my ears. Civil war in full froth.
music to my ears. Civil war in full froth.
They will absolutely vote it through
Yeah, I think she's not going to last the 12 month grace period now.
Literally all the policies and positions her cabinet hold are damaging to the country and she lacks the authority to pull it off.
Literally all the policies and positions her cabinet hold are damaging to the country and she lacks the authority to pull it off.
I mean I’m not an MP, but the similar answer here is the usual the Conservatives were elected by a majority but she can’t even say that. How thick can you get.
I mean I’m not an MP, but the similar answer here is the usual the Conservatives were elected by a majority but she can’t even say that. How thick can you get.
I mean I’m not an MP, but the similar answer here is the usual the Conservatives were elected by a majority but she can’t even say that. How thick can you get.
Gove (and anybody else with leadership ambitions and their backers) won't put themselves on record supporting this
I could imagine a Conservative amendment from the back benches to basically pass the budget but without the 45p reduction passing
And that would probably be the end of kamikwasi and the beginning of the end for truss
If I am Labour, I would be strongly considering a VONC in the govt to force a GE. All eyes are on Westminster right now and this could even be an existential crisis for the Tories.
If I am Starmer I am saying very publicly “if these Tory MPs have even a shred of decency or humanity they must vote for this motion”
Make them make a choice of their constituents vs their loyalty to the govt. Make it that there choice is either to doom the entire Conservative party (by refusing to do what is in the public interest) and killing their own careers in politics, if they don’t vote in favour.
If I am Starmer I am saying very publicly “if these Tory MPs have even a shred of decency or humanity they must vote for this motion”
Make them make a choice of their constituents vs their loyalty to the govt. Make it that there choice is either to doom the entire Conservative party (by refusing to do what is in the public interest) and killing their own careers in politics, if they don’t vote in favour.
It would be political suicide to vote to support this if you're a Tory MP.
Never underestimate the cowardliness of a Conservative MP but it's starting to look likely enough would vote to reject this.
Which would be game over for Kwarteng at least, and possibly Truss too.
Truss throwing Kwarteng under the bus this morning, making it clear it was he and he alone who came up with the budget, suggested to me she's aware the backbenchers will reject it and she's laying the groundwork to make him the scapegoat and try and save her own skin.
Never underestimate the cowardliness of a Conservative MP but it's starting to look likely enough would vote to reject this.
Which would be game over for Kwarteng at least, and possibly Truss too.
Truss throwing Kwarteng under the bus this morning, making it clear it was he and he alone who came up with the budget, suggested to me she's aware the backbenchers will reject it and she's laying the groundwork to make him the scapegoat and try and save her own skin.
This is the only problem with this plan
if I was Labour the last thing I’d want to do is takeover now
The hamster is dead on the wheel.
The seagull is stuck in the chimney.
Then at minimum it should serve to further cripple the popularity of the Tories. Show them (for anyone who doesn’t believe it yet) as the self serving twats that they are.
I disagree. Public opinion of the govt is already so low that all Labour would have to do is come in and reverse a few of the headline policies.
Furthermore, as much as I would want to believe otherwise, there is no guarantee that if it goes another two years before the next election that Labour will get in. A lot can happen in two years (just look at the last two).
Feck me she makes Theresa May’s oratory sound like Barack Obama’s
Watching the Laura K interview and she (Liz) is basically just filibustering.
She just keeps on talking in one long incredibly unbroken sentence moving from topic to topic so that no one has the chance to interrupt, it was really quite hypnotic.
She just keeps on talking in one long incredibly unbroken sentence moving from topic to topic so that no one has the chance to interrupt, it was really quite hypnotic.
I mean I’m not an MP, but the similar answer here is the usual the Conservatives were elected by a majority but she can’t even say that. How thick can you get.
This wasn't the mandate they were elected on though.
It’s not even the mandate she got elected on by the 80k Hardcore Tory zealots that voted for her a month ago. She specifically stated they wouldn’t be cutting public spending.
It had to be Gove starting the rebellion didn’t it
"we need to get away from this idea that everything is about redistribution"
she says as she resdistributes money in the form of taxcuts for millionaires sending the boe into a >65bn pound bond buying frenzy, destroying the already half dead mortgage market, weakening the pound, and generally redistributing value out of the british economy. the entire premise of neoliberal economics, even if you have a good faith version of it, which we don't, is redistribution via laissez faire economic policy. it doesn't work, but that's how it's supposed to work. she wants to get away from the idea that poor people should expect redistribution to work for them.
she says as she resdistributes money in the form of taxcuts for millionaires sending the boe into a >65bn pound bond buying frenzy, destroying the already half dead mortgage market, weakening the pound, and generally redistributing value out of the british economy. the entire premise of neoliberal economics, even if you have a good faith version of it, which we don't, is redistribution via laissez faire economic policy. it doesn't work, but that's how it's supposed to work. she wants to get away from the idea that poor people should expect redistribution to work for them.
Kamikwasi …
At least he wouldn't trash the economy - boom boom.
The idea that tax isn't about redistribution...
I think we should stop redistributing my tax money to their fecking salaries that's for sure. Otherwise I would be happy with a lot more redistribution from rich to normal folk personally.