2 or 3 more media interviews will finish her off.
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I applaud them but annoyingly this group has a chance to be this election's Momentum, splitting the Labour vote, and resulting in the Tories dragging themselves over the finish line.
i don't think anyone in that group is going to vote tory. it's labour's job to put something down that appeals to them, which they should be able to manage easily enough without moving to the left of trotsky.
Even if the Labour candidate isn’t everything everyone on the left desires, why not just coalesce behind that person to ensure no more Tory rule for a while?
Just so you know, Tories are going to be crying about Mark Hamilton all next week.
As has been said numerous times in response to this, why didn’t they the last 2 election cycles?
i think that's exactly what will happen but it won't be "free". starmer will have to give people on the left something even if it's going to be a vast compromise on what they want, or need. the tories are done. what makes that depressing is that it could be up to two years before the ge. i think there should be a clause in parliamentary democracies surrounding polling. assuming you have been in government for a long enough period of time, like more than 50% of your term, then if at any point over a given month of polling you demonstrate a >20% average deficit in popular support, then that should automatically trigger a general election. there's a scenario now where labour is polling 20-30% higher than the tory government which has had its leader selected, again, by a fraction of the population.
More prescient would be that a general election should be triggered whenever a prime minister steps down. It’s ludicrous that such a small voter base can choose the prime minister.
That sounds solidly common sensical enough, but who would be the final arbiter of the popular support average?
the lack of any real constitution, except in theory, is problematic. a lot of these rules have be codified over the years in ways which no longer make sense. i'd generally agree with this, with potential caveat on term limit. the earlier it happens in this scenario, the more emphasis there should be on returning to the public. i can see that being argued away as "not presidential system".
i'd set up an apolitical aggregator, funded by the state. a bbc type outfit linked to the electoral commission. the scenarios whereby it would happen are limited to examples like this really. don't see how it hurts a democracy, either. it couldn't be a factor for up to 2.5 years of a 5 year term in the first instance, and would have to be a monthy aggregate demonstrated by a bipartisan outfit. not without problems, but surely better than what we have now. but the gist is that to qualify you'd have to be so far beyond representing the public that a general election makes sense for the national interest, a principle which would extend to either party. i'm not without enormous criticisms of starmer's labour but i know it's in the national interest for the public to go to the polls.
I’m sure every question is going to pre written in advance by Truss’ team. Let’s see how many times she says “focusing on growth”.
Gove could be interesting (yuk) though. Wasn’t he backing Sunak?
Unless the chair of John Lewis is seriously Pro Liz then that show is going to be a bloodbath.
You will, in fact, love to see it
I mean - it'll still be Laura K doing the interview. She went relatively easy on Kwarteng last Sunday, all things considered.
It’s going to be interesting. I expect she will be pushing back against them to provide the balance.
She doesn’t usually interrupt Tories but I bet she interrupts Truss’ awkward silences
Hate to be that poster but called this and saw it a mile off in my post last week. Obvious to all with eyes that this was a cash gift to donors and like minded people from Truss and Kwarsi as they know the gravy train is soon to be over.
Wow Mystic Meg over here
I know, I'm fecking surgical.
feck me, she really might be gone by Xmas.
This is astonishing.
This is astonishing.
Theresa May's Chief of Staff whilst she was PM.
Surely Truss and Kwarteng can’t survive this. And, then what happens, surely the Tories can't just foist another PM on the country, it would trigger an early General Election right?
There is no constitutional need for one. And if the Tories are way behind in the polls the PM won't call one.
Sadly.
Sure, maybe not a technical constitutional need for one, but the Government needs to have a mandate from the country to lead, they’d be a laughing stock.
I don't disagree.
But since the Brexit vote all the unwritten and unmodified safeguards and "rules" in our constitution have been pushed to breaking point and many have been ignored.
Labour could call a vote of no confidence and try and vote down the budget, but they would need Tory votes for a GE. And a lot of them too.
And even then given the scale of the 2019 Labour defeat the Tories are able to lose the popular vote and still be the biggest party.
If the first three weeks of Liz Truss has shown anything, it is that she is fine being a laughing stock and she will push ahead with an economic plan people didn't vote for in 2016, 2017 or 2019. Our constitution is broken.
Braverman is now spouting bollocks which will undermine HE and the economies of university towns:
I think the lesson here is that we should check your post history before commenting on the thread. Too much chance of duplication otherwise.
We all knew what would happen six and a half years ago. Can the rot be stopped? Too late for a lot of it.
Braverman studied European and French law in Paris...how much did she contribute to the French economy then?
On LK - Gove is barely on her side, very pragmatic.
She is a robot. She has no lateral thinking at all or ability to think on her feet. Its not even bluster a la Johnson or clever double speak a la JRM. It is just literal stupidity.
Truss is getting savaged by LK here. Every media appearance is a total disaster for her.
Truss is getting savaged by LK here. Every media appearance is a total disaster for her.
Unless JRM has been playing a long game since before his balls even dropped, this is unfortunately what he is actually like and has always been like...
It is being reported that Truss has advised the King not to attend the COP27 in Egypt. No reason provided but I can imagine that King Charles, who is passionate about climate change was due to give a speech. Now maybe a virtual speech.
Don't really understand what this has to do with the PM...
Don't really understand what this has to do with the PM...
the BoE stepping into to buy bonds was not an impact on the economy, it was all optics
