He seems more sorry he keeps being pulled up on it.
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As an aside, anyone aware of the new anti-Brexit centrist party, Renew?
Except there isn't anything to see. Hard line Zionists take any criticism of the Israeli State as 'anti-Semitism' and have said as much. 99% of the supposed anti-semitism in the Labour party has been merely criticism of Israel's human rights record. Criticism of Israel's war crimes is not anti semitism, it's demanding justice for the down trodden.
I had no idea they were a thing. Seems kinda pointless though. Probably better off just joining the Lib Dems.
LibDems pointless after 2010. A real third way centrist party has it's appeal tbf.
Probably, although when you consider that the Lib Dems still have certain strongholds in the country constituency-wise (where they're at least relevant if not elected) and that they've still got lots of local councillors, I wonder if for centrists trying to rebrand that party might work better than forming a new one. Ultimately it's incredibly difficult for new parties to gain traction right away - the Lib Dems were basically an evolution of their old equivalent, UKIP took decades to achieve any relevance and even then only ever really got one or two MPs and about 12% of the vote, the Greens remain largely irrelevant, and the SNP were around for generations until they became Scotland's most dominant party. Renew seem to have a fairly anti-Brexit platform...but by the time they've achieved any relevance I suspect Brexit will have been fully implemented.
Quite possibly. I guess I just feel in that disenfranchised middle ground as the two main parties have drifted further left or right.
I highly doubt they'll be the next En Marche, but might be interesting to speak to them. No idea if they have a broader policy set beyond second Brexit referendum and more housing tbh.
Yeah, strange to say it but there is a gap in the market for a David Milliband, Clegg/Cameron, Neo-con 'centrist' party. One that isn't fronted by an aging Vince Cable.
That is what 2018 British politics is lacking, a man who is complicit in torture and already been deemed less electable than Ed Miliband. What a vote winner.
It's not strange at all, you're dead right, there is a huge centre-left gap in the available alternatives. Vince it will have to be, I suppose.
First part aside, that was only really decided by the trade unions. I like Ed more, but to say he's more electable than David is laughable.
That is what 2018 British politics is lacking, a man who is complicit in torture and already been deemed less electable than Ed Miliband. What a vote winner.
So David is more electable, right up until he has to get people to vote for him?
What are you on about? Labour party members voted for him by far the most in the Labour leadership election. Like I said, it was merely UNITE etc. loving Ed which made him "unelectable". The trade unions hated David Cameron - does that mean he was unelectable? (No)
Often the problem in Labour party leadership elections - membership want one thing, special interest wants another. Until they've been out of power nigh-on 20 years then the unions think maybe it might be an idea to pick someone electable. We're at least one leader removed from that though so the Tories have nothing to fear.
David Miliband's just really bland anyway though, irrespective of any complications surrounding the 2010 leadership contest. There's probably a place for centrism somewhere in UK politics, but Miliband's just one of those really bland, non-descript figures Labour would've maybe went for at one point in order to try and directly replicate Blair.
'Tucker Carlson will save you from Shifty and Shouty!'
It isn't dog whistle racism, they had a march about bigotry yesterday which Norman 'Cricket test' Tebbit went to. Everybody move on.
Boris being called out by the speaker ,he knew what he is doing when referring Emily Thornberry by her married name
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43556887
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43556887
Had some Tory tosser try and make out he was highlighting the hypocrisy of Labour portraying a man/woman of the people image. He being Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson by the way.
Thornberry herself is not easy to like often comes across as smug and enjoys the yah/boo a bit too much but get her talking more in depth is actually very good
What time is the protest march?
https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/bob-blackman-tory-mp-regrets-sharing-islamophobic-facebook-post/
https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/bob-blackman-tory-mp-regrets-sharing-islamophobic-facebook-post/
I dunno man. That Jewish protest march didn’t look very hard line Zionist to me.
“Why did I protest against Corbyn? Look at his long list of evasions” https://www.theguardian.com/comment...evasions-labour-antisemitism?CMP=share_btn_tw
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There isn't a problem with antisemitism within the Labour party because non-Jewish Corbyn supporters insist so. It's how we know racism doesn't exist because Tommy Robinson denies being a racist. That's how these things work. We also know people can distinguish between Jews and Israel by the way the minute someone wants to talk about antisemitism they'll respond by mentioning the word 'Zionism' within the first few seconds.
People who are not part of a minority who says they've experienced prejudice have dismissed their claims and told them that they're wrong. We're all fine with that now. I mean, what do Jews know about antisemitism anyway, am I right?
People who are not part of a minority who says they've experienced prejudice have dismissed their claims and told them that they're wrong. We're all fine with that now. I mean, what do Jews know about antisemitism anyway, am I right?
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Corbyn isn't antisemitic, although he has opposed Israeli war crimes for a few decades. To some there isn't a difference.
He's definitely a racist antisemite, Norman 'Cricket test' Tebbit went on a march about it and everything.
Amazing how the feeling of Jewish people on the issue of anti-semitism is completely brushed aside for no other reason than it being politically inconvenient for people to acknowledge it.
You have members of the Jewish community and leaders of the Jewish community taking issue with what they see as a tolerance of anti semitic sentiment in the Labour party and it's being completely dismissed because people are getting protective over their politician pin-up. It's quite extraordinary really.
Do that with any other group. Heterosexuals insisting homosexuals are wrong if they perceive homophobia, white people lecturing black people on whether they're entitled to believe they've been subject to racism. Men going to a women's rally and telling them that if they think they've seen misogyny then they're mistaken.
Because it's the Jews and hating them is considered kind of okay by many on the left, combined with the fact Corbyn supporters think they can get away with anything has led us to where we are on this issue today. Denied even the right to identify when they believe they've encountered antisemitism. What a time to be alive.
You have members of the Jewish community and leaders of the Jewish community taking issue with what they see as a tolerance of anti semitic sentiment in the Labour party and it's being completely dismissed because people are getting protective over their politician pin-up. It's quite extraordinary really.
Do that with any other group. Heterosexuals insisting homosexuals are wrong if they perceive homophobia, white people lecturing black people on whether they're entitled to believe they've been subject to racism. Men going to a women's rally and telling them that if they think they've seen misogyny then they're mistaken.
Because it's the Jews and hating them is considered kind of okay by many on the left, combined with the fact Corbyn supporters think they can get away with anything has led us to where we are on this issue today. Denied even the right to identify when they believe they've encountered antisemitism. What a time to be alive.
Honestly mate, you post some awful awful shite on here.
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The eyesight problems seem to be spreading.
I hate her so much.
If the word 'clear' didn't exist, she'd be mute.
Don't forget, this word porridge with no actual details on what it targets and how much will be spent, was a victory for Jeremy Hunt a couple of days ago.
She's been shaking a few magic money trees. Hopefully the general public have woken up to the Tories lies when it comes to NHS funding.
Multi-year funding deal is so they can ask the NHS for what it needs over multiple years and lock them to that even if circumstance and need in later years dictate more money is needed and for the duration defend not providing it by saying "We have given the NHS everything they asked for".
Yes, I think it's dangerous, so too the NHS tax. They can start attacking the tax for being too high
Just like when they started sending out that letter once a year with a pie chart showing what your taxes were spent on last year, to try and galvanise public support for an attack on the welfare state.
Find it really creepy when May does her speeches thanking emergency services and the like, trying to sound caring. Feels so forced and like she's about to rip off her hideous mask to reveal a demon head.
It's absurd this government who feck up everything it touches, still ploughs on and looking pretty decent in the polls to boot. Major's government was dogged by sleeze but it was never this incompetent and his poll ratings were horrendous. Despite everything if an election was called tomorrow they'd still stand a decent chance of getting back in again and they have absolutely no right to given how absolutely fecking awful they are.
Child poverty: Pale and hungry pupils 'fill pockets with school food'
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