It won't, its essentially 1000000 a day between now and new years day 7 days a week. Not going to happen.
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Johnson couldn't bring himself to say the words "covid pass" or "vaccine passport"
Get boosted now.
The new catchy Tory hook
The new catchy Tory hook
Depends what he means by "chance", and since he's a lying Tory cnut that probably means "me telling you right now that you have a chance of getting one counts as your chance, it's your fault if you don't get it now."
(This is a parody account but it still made me
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(This is a parody account but it still made me
It's a very good parody account tbf. Some of the Brexit stuff was really funny.Think this could be the week Boris falls on his sword
Likely big rebellion on the covid bill - probably only pass because of Labour support and I suspect several people with government roles (PPS, Junior ministers and possibly even all the way up to cabinet) to vote against and thus resign.
Then a probable by-election defeat to the Libs on Thursday
At that point I fully expect enough letters to be with the 1922 committee to trigger a vote of confidence ... and I think Boris will walk rather than face the vote
At that point I think Boris will decide that because of the massive success of the booster roll out, the fact that he did what he was elected to and got Brexit done combined with how he put his personal life and health second to stewarding Britain through a global pandemic means its now time for him to step back from office to enjoy time with his Wife and young Children. (or at least some spin like that for the press release)
The only real issue then is during a global pandemic do the Conservatives agree on a next leader and do a smooth and quick transition... personally I cant see Sunak or Gove stepping aside for each other so potentially we end up with a crowded internal process as Sunak, Gove, Truss, Patel, Hunt, Javid - possibly even Mogg chuck their hat in the ring
If that happens then I guess Boris hangs around for a few weeks as a lame duck PM whilst they fight it out?
Very likely hes resigned by Xms though I think?
Likely big rebellion on the covid bill - probably only pass because of Labour support and I suspect several people with government roles (PPS, Junior ministers and possibly even all the way up to cabinet) to vote against and thus resign.
Then a probable by-election defeat to the Libs on Thursday
At that point I fully expect enough letters to be with the 1922 committee to trigger a vote of confidence ... and I think Boris will walk rather than face the vote
At that point I think Boris will decide that because of the massive success of the booster roll out, the fact that he did what he was elected to and got Brexit done combined with how he put his personal life and health second to stewarding Britain through a global pandemic means its now time for him to step back from office to enjoy time with his Wife and young Children. (or at least some spin like that for the press release)
The only real issue then is during a global pandemic do the Conservatives agree on a next leader and do a smooth and quick transition... personally I cant see Sunak or Gove stepping aside for each other so potentially we end up with a crowded internal process as Sunak, Gove, Truss, Patel, Hunt, Javid - possibly even Mogg chuck their hat in the ring
If that happens then I guess Boris hangs around for a few weeks as a lame duck PM whilst they fight it out?
Very likely hes resigned by Xms though I think?
My feeling is even if it is really bad they'll probably want him to stay as dead man walking for a bit before pulling the trigger, to get through the current wave and take all the blame for it.
While the contrived Boris circus rolls on, say your goodbyes to democracy...
Raab to claim overhaul of human rights law will counter ‘political correctness’
https://www.theguardian.com/law/202...uman-rights-law-counter-political-correctness
Raab to claim overhaul of human rights law will counter ‘political correctness’
https://www.theguardian.com/law/202...uman-rights-law-counter-political-correctness
Whats the current wave likley to be though 3 months?
If they have a contested leadership election that normally takes about 10 weeks... chuck in a couple of weeks for xmas / new year and you have a new leader coming in just in time to roll back restrictions then probably some give aways in the budget...
I swear people said this during the last wave.
I don't think he'll be going anywhere. The idiots that voted for him haven't changed their opinion.
But that's what I mean, I think there's a distinction between dyed in the wool Tories and people that voted for Boris Johnson at the last election because he's funny and wasn't Jeremy Corbyn. I guess it's more of the former who are finding him less palatable now.
Hard to say, because really he's too centrist for a lot of the really hardcore Tory voters, the kind that love the ERG and think Rees-Mogg is the perfect leader.
We’ve been sleep walking into authoritarianism for the last decade or so, and because the first victims are foreigners & ethnic minorities (windrush, anti protest bill, stop & search, the entire Home Office & more), the general public doesn’t actually care.
Once these policies start affecting people who aren’t ‘other’ to the general British public, only then will there be outcry.
My bet would be mid February. I think they'll want someone in soon who can just counter any attacks with the usual 'previous administration' line but they'll try get the dirty stuff out of the way first.
Sunak will be a rebranding of the party and a move back to Cameron style politics.
Sunak will be a rebranding of the party and a move back to Cameron style politics.
I wouldn't take issue with this in itself but is being asked awkward questions about what you'd be doing different to Boris during the current wave a healthy environment for a leadership election, from a Tory perspective?
https://self-referral.test-for-coronavirus.service.gov.uk/antigen/channel-status
so seems to be showing available?
Yes true, but Labour cannot win in Westminster without Scotland, it never could...
Starmer should stop farting about with Boris and get up to Scotland... but then again he's not really their cup of tea...is he?
Boris doesn't play well with Scots voters, certainly not as much as he does in England, so that is an advantage, or should be for Labour; but can Starmer get at the Scots Nats?
Boris had his 'red wall', revolution in England, Starmer needs his 'sporran-wall' revolt North of the Border!
Scotland is out of play for Labour until the second referendum is sorted out hence why the Tories will keep the issue at arms length for the next few decades.
labour need to back PR then... join the PR allience and offer the SNP a 2nd referendum if they bck election reform along with the libs and greens
Pass the PR reform and call a 2nd election
Conservatives could never win a majority in England under PR
If Labour offered Scotland a referendum and it passed, they would never win an election ever again.
under PR nobody would... we would almost certainly end up with a centre left coalition most of the time though
Not quite my local MP, but in my town Mr Scott Benton has been banging this drum for a while, claiming the HRA is making the UK a soft touch. Unfortunately it is appealing to his base who love it. There is a large swathe of society who do not give a toss about human rights, especially if that human is of a different ethnicity to them.
Sorry cannot agree, Labour need to win back their voters from under the SNP flag, not try to join forces in some PR stunt.
What is the point of Labour winning in Westminister if it has to fight its way through issue after issue in terms of PR votes to get anything done... nothing will get done, look at what has happened even trying to form a PR coalition.
Then Starmer has to bring it back into play! or more likely Angela Rayner could do...in Scotland?
I could be wrong but hasn't Tory + Lib Dem been 50% or more in every election since 1997 except 2015?
so after wall to wall coverage of partygate, following hot on the heels of the secondjobs scandal, the only casualty appears to be a press spokesperson, who wasnt actually doing any press speaking.
19 = 55.2%
17 = 49.8%
15 = 44.8%
10 = 59.1%
05 = 57.2%
01 = 50%
97 - 47.5%
so I think no...but equally no guarantee the libs side with the conservatives in a election - especially after the coalition with the conservatives worked out so badly for them
also voting under PR would likely be different and most probably within a cycle or 2 conservative and labour have split into smaller parties anyway
I think that would be healthier. Even the Lib Dems is arguably two parties. The SNP is about 6 but that's another thing entirely...
So, predictably the Xmas party seems to have been successfully swept under the carpet.
Has it, or have we just finished with it? I'm not sure what more there is to be done with it. Pretty much everyone agrees it happened, thinks it was bad, and the Tories have taken a blow in the polls.
I fully agree
Greens would become a pretty major force i think as well with FPTP removed
and forgot to add the refurbishment scandal / lying to the standards investigation / the house.... all seems to have washed away. all hail OMNICRON
its probably played a big part in so many conservatives being about to rebel on the plan B vote... it willl probbly play a big part if they loose the by election and it will have played big part in any letters going to the 1922 committee
Yes..along with the pine needles from last years Christmas tree
Just that there was a lot of talk that Boris would go. Certainly few on here thought that this could bring him down. The man is bulletproof —. nothing will bring him down.
Not so sure of that.
The Tories are perfectly adept at stabbing their leader in the back.