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Or as The Conservatives would have you believe, two new hospitals and a new school!
So that's the North taken care of for the next 20 years.
The northern communities get a manky old train, what’s the best southern communities get bricks & mortar built rooms?
At least My temporary classroom wasn't an old train on the back of a flatbed. More convenient for the kidnappers I guess.
Good old Pacers, deemed too crap to be allowed to used in London and the South East but suitable for us plebs in the North.
You would think an opposition party would see this as an open goal, if we had one.
Exactly!
You can see with the NI increases that they're going to firmly try and put it all on the public so it'll be an easier sell when they privatise more of it.
its only an extra fiver a week according to the daily mail. peanuts.
compare and contrast with their response to every one of labours spending plans ever.
my solution - a proper wealth and land tax, especially one that targets the buytolet landlords who would not pay anymore with NINO changes and yet are sitting on vast fortunes, paid for by ordinary working people.
compare and contrast with their response to every one of labours spending plans ever.
my solution - a proper wealth and land tax, especially one that targets the buytolet landlords who would not pay anymore with NINO changes and yet are sitting on vast fortunes, paid for by ordinary working people.
That's actually a pretty smart use of old trains to be fair. I know it stokes the fires of the North v South divide but it's resourceful.
I can't say anything nice right now. I hope it gets voted down. We don't need an NI increase. What we need is a wealth tax. #CreepingShariah #2.5%
It's better than nothing, but it's typical of the former pyramid-schemer to suggest that the scraps from southern train lines is worth a classroom up'north!
The fact that they are celebrating things like this, and for example Raab taking that selfie at the food bank, as if they're genuinely proud of their achievements.
Yes, but Raab is a total thundercnut, everyone should know this. In fact everyone should know that every member of this current Government is a thundercnut. They're all colossal shithawks. But this is something at least less twatty then they're used to doing.
It’s really not. The refits will be done by a Tory company and will cost more than a purpose built structure. Guaranteed.
Edit : The carriages are being purchased from Tories. They’re fcuking balls deep in everything and never deliverately make anything better if there’s no financial upside.
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Watch in real time as a Tory realises they're a Tory.
Tweet could pass for a parody.
In theory, I'm for it, we are constantly complaing in this country that so many services are underfunded, we can't then complain if there is a tax rise to fund things.
Of course, I have severe doubts the money will be spent correctly. But in theory, I have no issue paying more tax for a better health service, especially after the last few years.
how about we get rid of offshore tax havens, and some of the obvious tax avoidance that goes on (with inheritance tax example, as long as you can afford a decent attorney) and then a land / wealth tax. then no 'normal' working man or woman needs to pay a penny more. the same people that vote these shysters in, and then complain about politicians....
We CAN and SHOULD complain. The whole tax system is rotten.
Remember that time when Corbyn proposed an additional 5% tax for earnings over 80k and it was the worse thing ever to some here.
I'm sure effectively taxing every working person and disproportionately the poor 2.5% is absolutely fine though.
I'm sure effectively taxing every working person and disproportionately the poor 2.5% is absolutely fine though.
One of Boris pledges before the last election was that he had a ready made solution to the Adult Care issue.
And yet today, he tried to justify breaking the no tax rises pledges sighting the pandemic as the reason.
But as we know, the election was before the pandemic. So was his solution then based on an NI increase or was he lying yet again.
And yet today, he tried to justify breaking the no tax rises pledges sighting the pandemic as the reason.
But as we know, the election was before the pandemic. So was his solution then based on an NI increase or was he lying yet again.
The problem is they are taxing low earners. Meanwhile the top 5% have 90%+ of the cash.
If Labour had got into power and presided over the highest COVID death rate in Europe, wasted billions of tax payers money on a failing track track trace system and spent millions on PPE that never turned up, all spent with companies owned by party donors the media would be up in arms.
Every day where the average Brit doesn't protest and riot in contempt of this Government, the media and the Royal Family lets me know that this country is unserious and nothing will change.
British people truly love suffering as long as someone they dislike is suffering just as much, or a little bit more than them.
British people truly love suffering as long as someone they dislike is suffering just as much, or a little bit more than them.
You've just gotta laugh
If we were chickens, the British public would vote for Christmas.
What incentive do the Tories have to stop? None at all.
It's like people who think they aren't racist just because they say the n-word and post about the IQ gap online. Because they know being racist is bad, and they're not bad, so they can't be racist.
They are taxing everyone its a percentage of your earnings, the more you earn the more tax you "in theory" pay.
Ignoring the argument about the fact that it's a tax that will disproportionally affect the poorer, I don't get why they feel the need to make it a different tax from 2023 and move NI back down to the original level. It makes it more difficult for businesses, loads of software will need to change to take it into account and it's just more confusing than adding to NI.
It's not like it is a way of hiding future tax increases as it's identical to NI in that the employer pays some and we pay some. I don't get it.
It's not like it is a way of hiding future tax increases as it's identical to NI in that the employer pays some and we pay some. I don't get it.
It's still a workers tax at a time when billionaires have increased their wealth and pay relatively no tax, while wages have been stagnant for 15 years or so.
A wealth tax would generate at least 3x as much money than this proposal with marginal tax increases.
National Insurance is effectively capped at £50k. There was plenty of scope to make changes around that rather than a change that hits the lowest earners the most.
It's massively unfair but then so is the entire structure of NI. An actual income tax - that covers income, interest, dividends and capital gains would be a start. Getting rid of nonsense like higher rate tax allowances on pension contributions would help. They could take another crack at inheritance tax as well, given this is likely to leave more money to tax there.
If NI contributions are the only way that we can get tax money off Amazon etc, then find new ways to tax them. Don't wrap up a tax increase for the lower paid and average earners as if it's anything other than another slice of wealth distribution upwards.
If NI contributions are the only way that we can get tax money off Amazon etc, then find new ways to tax them. Don't wrap up a tax increase for the lower paid and average earners as if it's anything other than another slice of wealth distribution upwards.