Westminster Politics

ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg said:
within an organisation as big as the police there will be breaches. It would be more suspect, if there hadn’t been any infractions, that would be a signpost for corruption.
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You see that is pretty much the type of response I was expecting. I did say that I was surprised it even made a headline.
Oh well, the police are corrupt; not my words by the way...
Oh well, the PM is a compulsive liar; not my words by the way..
Oh well, the Health Secretary is photographed kissing someone outside his family and thereby flouting the very standards he was preaching while families were not permitted to hug their loved ones...
How do we expect people to behave when those who are supposed to be setting a morale standard treat the law and normal standards as if they simply don't matter and certainly don't apply to them.
I just find this all quite depressing.
 
sun_tzu said:
I think Boris wants him around so he can have an inquiry in to covid in a few months... blame it all on hancock... throw him under the (boris) bus and draw a line under it so he can get on with the important business of making more money for himself and his chums
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Definitely. He is only there to act as a lightning rod for Boris.
 
Well, i'd like to see ol Matty Hancock wriggle his way out of THIS jam! *Hancock wriggles his way out of the jam easily* Ah! Well. Nevertheless
 
MadMike said:
Has there been another British government, in recent times, that is so bereft of any morals? Boris, Hancock, Raab, Patel, Gove... more muck than a pig sty.
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And someone on here who I will not is trying to convince everyone that the danger to this country comes from the Loony Left.
You could not make it up could you.
 
Breaking the law seems to be a badge of honour for these cnuts. It’ll be forgotten about over the weekend when someone else does something wrong.
 
Buster15 said:
You see that is pretty much the type of response I was expecting. I did say that I was surprised it even made a headline.
Oh well, the police are corrupt; not my words by the way...
Oh well, the PM is a compulsive liar; not my words by the way..
Oh well, the Health Secretary is photographed kissing someone outside his family and thereby flouting the very standards he was preaching while families were not permitted to hug their loved ones...
How do we expect people to behave when those who are supposed to be setting a morale standard treat the law and normal standards as if they simply don't matter and certainly don't apply to them.
I just find this all quite depressing.
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I don’t understand your point. I think it’s newsworthy, but by itself it doesn’t show corruption - as I said more the opposite.

there’s a difference between junior or mid level police officers compared to senior politicians. I’m not particularly concerned about minor infractions from those in the police - which considering they have been identified, have been dealt with? Have they not? Politicians are a different breed all together, and yes that’s depressing.

i assume you have a general problem with the police?
 
worth exploring how old cctv footage happened to land on the lap of the political editor of the sun newspaper
 
DavidDeSchmikes said:
worth exploring how old cctv footage happened to land on the lap of the political editor of the sun newspaper
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Do we know when the footage is from? I’ve only seen that it was from before May 17th
 
ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg said:
I don’t understand your point. I think it’s newsworthy, but by itself it doesn’t show corruption - as I said more the opposite.

there’s a difference between junior or mid level police officers compared to senior politicians. I’m not particularly concerned about minor infractions from those in the police - which considering they have been identified, have been dealt with? Have they not? Politicians are a different breed all together, and yes that’s depressing.

i assume you have a general problem with the police?
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As I am sure you have read from the article does say that the majority of police forces had failed to respond to the request for information.

And to you last point. I only have a problem with the police or any organisation whose job is to uphold the law of the land when they themselves continue to flout those same laws.
Perfectly simple and perfectly understandable I would say.
 
At this point I’m convinced this all isn’t real and I’m actually watching en episode of The Thick of It.
 
Pexbo said:
Do we know when the footage is from? I’ve only seen that it was from before May 17th
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Last month according to The Sun. It can’t have come from Cummings directly, however, there’s a good chance he knew about the affair - she has been in the role since last year.

Either way, it’s a massive data protection breach.
 
Dan_F said:
Last month according to The Sun. It can’t have come from Cummings directly, however, there’s a good chance he knew about the affair - she has been in the role since last year.

Either way, it’s a massive data protection breach.
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She has. And at £15,000 per year in a non executive role for 15/20 days a year. Not bad work if you can get it. I will say no more and let the facts speak for themselves for a change.
 
Buster15 said:
She has. And at £15,000 per year in a non executive role for 15/20 days a year. Not bad work if you can get it. I will say no more and let the facts speak for themselves for a change.
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Definitely. Although complete pocket change for her by the sounds of it.
 
TheLiverBird said:
He’s admitted breaking Covid rules

that is the end of Hancock, he will have no choice but to stand down after that statement
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:lol: No chance. Save your energy, he's going nowhere. This cabinet are untouchable, no one is getting sacked. In a normal world he probably would have to but for some reason this government are so popular with the general public so they won't care.
 
PM standing by Hancock after kissing aide pictures
Boris Johnson's official spokesman says the prime minister has accepted Health Secretary Matt Hancock’s apology after he was photographed kissing an aide, and considers the matter closed.
The spokesman refused to answer questions on whether Mr Hancock had broken the law, and pointed to Mr Hancock's statement where he had admitted breaking social distancing guidance.
He insisted proper procedures were followed in the appointment of Gina Coladangelo as a non-executive director in Mr Hancock’s department.

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I usually avoid politics but this entire cabinet is full of absolute weapons.
 
This Government doesn't have any morals or shame, and the British public don't care about scandals when it comes to Tories.

The PM literally said he doesn't care if bodies pile up ffs, nothing will change until the public decide to care.
 
I don't get why you wouldn't sack Hancock. He's one of the most sackable people in the UK. It's remarkable that he's sustained regular employment for this long.
 
Sky reporting that the woman’s brother is an executive at a healthcare company that was given several contracts by the health department.
 
villain said:
This Government doesn't have any morals or shame, and the British public don't care about scandals when it comes to Tories.

The PM literally said he doesn't care if bodies pile up ffs, nothing will change until the public decide to care.
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Exactly this. When enough of the public care about something, they can genuinely make change. As we see when this shambles of a Government make u-turns on free school meals when Rashford has much of the country backing his campaign.

Frustratingly though, most people are entirely apathetic to how this Government behave. They can lie with impunity, funnel taxes to their wealthy mates, break their own laws. Hardly anyone actually gives a shit. It’s embarrassing what a nation of boot lickers we are really.
 
sullydnl said:
I don't get why you wouldn't sack Hancock. He's one of the most sackable people in the UK. It's remarkable that he's sustained regular employment for this long.
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Because he is the scapegoat that Johnson wants to hide behind when the dust settles on the shambolic handling of the pandemic. Same reason he keeps even worse people like Gavin Williamson around.
 
sullydnl said:
I don't get why you wouldn't sack Hancock. He's one of the most sackable people in the UK. It's remarkable that he's sustained regular employment for this long.
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The whole cabinet is made up of incompetents. The two or three criteria for being in the cabinet are 1. Brexiteer 2. Incompetent and if possible 3.Nasty. Nothing else matters.
 
sullydnl said:
I don't get why you wouldn't sack Hancock. He's one of the most sackable people in the UK. It's remarkable that he's sustained regular employment for this long.
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Because it would set a precedent. Boris will know full well that someone (Cummings) is holding compromising evidence of Boris breaking the rules during the pandemic. If Boris took a hardline, people would be expecting his resignation when that’s released.
 
MoskvaRed said:
Because he is the scapegoat that Johnson wants to hide behind when the dust settles on the shambolic handling of the pandemic. Same reason he keeps even worse people like Gavin Williamson around.
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Yep reckon this is sadly it. Give it a year or two, the commission will highlight the failings, such as failing to protect care homes (rightly so) and Hancock of he survives till then will be the convenient scapegoat.
 
ZupZup said:
Exactly this. When enough of the public care about something, they can genuinely make change. As we see when this shambles of a Government make u-turns on free school meals when Rashford has much of the country backing his campaign.

Frustratingly though, most people are entirely apathetic to how this Government behave. They can lie with impunity, funnel taxes to their wealthy mates, break their own laws. Hardly anyone actually gives a shit. It’s embarrassing what a nation of boot lickers we are really.
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We're only bootlickers when it comes to Tories because the electorate are hyponotised into believing that voting for them will mean that someday, somehow, they too will become wealthy enough to benefit from Tory policies.

If this was Labour MP's or Lib Dem's, they would've been flung in the streets and shamed ala Cersei by now. Think about the things that Labour MP's still get criticised for in comparison to the things that Tories say, do & lie about. :lol:
 
Drainy said:
Hancock must have some right filth on many of the cabinet to survive that
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Boris is clearly playing the long game.
When the right time comes to chuck Hancock under the proverbial bus, in order to save himself, then he will be gone.
Hancock is a terribly convenient lightning rod.
Far too useful just to sack him over something like this.
 
ZupZup said:
Exactly this. When enough of the public care about something, they can genuinely make change. As we see when this shambles of a Government make u-turns on free school meals when Rashford has much of the country backing his campaign.

Frustratingly though, most people are entirely apathetic to how this Government behave. They can lie with impunity, funnel taxes to their wealthy mates, break their own laws. Hardly anyone actually gives a shit. It’s embarrassing what a nation of boot lickers we are really.
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Yes indeed.
But Boris won't need to worry. Love Island is back on the TV. Something far more important than any of the government ineptness and catastrophic failings.
 
No accountability for anything, shutting down media, suppressing protests, ID for voting. All right out of Trump/Republican playbook.
 
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