Westminster Politics

I'm shite at remembering details, but I think Gove has been overtly loyal to whoever he is backing, only putting the boot in when he judges the time is right. I bet on him to win the last leadership election (at good odds), I'll be bleeding annoyed if he makes it this time instead.
I thought Sunak was nailed on at one point but he seems to have been very quiet the last few months, budget aside.
 
I thought Sunak was nailed on at one point but he seems to have been very quiet the last few months, budget aside.
He does seem to be a favourite with the press, but I'm not sure how he'll go down with the very elderly Tory membership when it comes to voting. Now is his best chance though, when he's been handing money out and before he has to start telling us how to pay for it.
 
I'm shite at remembering details, but I think in the past Gove has been overtly loyal to whoever he is backing, only putting the boot in when he judges the time is right. I bet on him to win the last leadership election (at good odds), I'll be bleeding annoyed if he makes it this time instead.

I agree from within the Tory ranks Gove is the one who will step up and play the leader offside, but only when the conditions are right! Gove has stood on too many Tory toes, and has virtually 0 appeal with the public. However as you say he has been King-maker before and he plays the long...long game.
 
I'm shite at remembering details, but I think in the past Gove has been overtly loyal to whoever he is backing, only putting the boot in when he judges the time is right. I bet on him to win the last leadership election (at good odds), I'll be bleeding annoyed if he makes it this time instead.
I don’t see Gove winning any leadership contest, I don’t think he’s liked by the membership so he wouldn’t get the vote.

Sunak will be the next PM, I’d be a lot on that.
 
I expect that Cummings is not going to reveal anything that would prevent him from working in Government again. The press seem to have forgotten that he was originally Gove's special adviser, Govey is seeing his way into No10 and Cummings might just get back in a nice job after being the king maker.
This seems much more likely. Tory internal power struggles is all they care about.
 
I don’t see Gove winning any leadership contest, I don’t think he’s liked by the membership so he wouldn’t get the vote.

Sunak will be the next PM, I’d be a lot on that.
Odds are on it being sunak... but if gove can make it to the final two (though priti patel will also be a contender for that spot as well)

But if he gets in the final two and cummings can suddenly find lots of stuff to suggest eat out to help out was a total mess of an idea that might be enough to persuade a lot of the octogenarian Conservative members to vote for the polite white chap.

Given that gove seems so focussed on becoming PM one day I imagine something similar to that is in his head
 
I thought the Torys always choose the candidate most likely to win the election ? That can't be Gove ? He looks like a proper lizard person.
 
Spot on. With all the daily updates on progress of the vaccine, many tend to forget about the truly awful number of infections and deaths.
And that is precisely why Boris is and will do absolutely anything to delay the necessary public inquiry into the government shambolic handling of the pandemic.
The right wing press are also feeding the masses sycophantic revisionism like this, even using his own recklessness in catching it as some form of defence.

THE SUN SAYS
Boris Johnson’s every act since Covid struck suggests a PM who would do anything to avoid ‘bodies piled high’

He almost became a casualty himself.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14773772/boris-johnson-everything-but-callous-remark-reported/
 
Odds Slashed On Boris Exit This Year As Pressure Mounts On PM



Johnson 3/1 From 6/1 To Be Gone By 2022

Boris Johnson is set to come under even more pressure if the latest betting patterns are to be believed after he was gambled to be ousted from Downing Street as early as this year.

Criticism of the PM mounted on Tuesday as Labour accused him of lying about who paid for renovations of his Downing Street flat, while new allegations claim Johnson told aides in September that he would rather let coronavirus ‘rip’ than impose a second lockdown.

Now the chances of a Tory leadership election being triggered in the near future are getting shorter as BoyleSports cut the odds on him being replaced this year in half from 6/1 to 3/1. It’s also an even money shot from 2/1 that a new leader is in place by the time the Conservatives go into their next general election campaign.

Chancellor Rishi Sunak is the 2/1 favourite be the next Tory leader, but Michael Gove is a notable mover in the market after falling into 6/1 from 11/1 to replace Johnson despite backing his party leader this week.

Lawrence Lyons, spokesperson for BoyleSports said: “Boris Johnson has already denied some damaging leaks but as the week goes on the pressure only seems to be increasing. The odds on him being replaced are going in the opposite direction and after a significant spike in speculation we’ve had no choice but to cut him into 3/1 from 6/1 to be gone by the end of the year.”

ENDS

Year Boris Johnson Is Replaced As PM

3/1 2021

5/1 2022

1/2 2023 or later

Boris Johnson to be Tory leader at next general election

EVS No

5/6 Yes

Next Conservative Party Leader

2/1 Rishi Sunak

13/2 Michael Gove

15/2 Jeremy Hunt

9/1 Liz Truss

14/1 Dominic Raab

16/1 Sajid Javid

16/1 Priti Patel

22/1 Amber Rudd

22/1 Tom Tugendhat

25/1 bar
 
Odds Slashed On Boris Exit This Year As Pressure Mounts On PM



Johnson 3/1 From 6/1 To Be Gone By 2022

Boris Johnson is set to come under even more pressure if the latest betting patterns are to be believed after he was gambled to be ousted from Downing Street as early as this year.

Criticism of the PM mounted on Tuesday as Labour accused him of lying about who paid for renovations of his Downing Street flat, while new allegations claim Johnson told aides in September that he would rather let coronavirus ‘rip’ than impose a second lockdown.

Now the chances of a Tory leadership election being triggered in the near future are getting shorter as BoyleSports cut the odds on him being replaced this year in half from 6/1 to 3/1. It’s also an even money shot from 2/1 that a new leader is in place by the time the Conservatives go into their next general election campaign.

Chancellor Rishi Sunak is the 2/1 favourite be the next Tory leader, but Michael Gove is a notable mover in the market after falling into 6/1 from 11/1 to replace Johnson despite backing his party leader this week.

Lawrence Lyons, spokesperson for BoyleSports said: “Boris Johnson has already denied some damaging leaks but as the week goes on the pressure only seems to be increasing. The odds on him being replaced are going in the opposite direction and after a significant spike in speculation we’ve had no choice but to cut him into 3/1 from 6/1 to be gone by the end of the year.”

ENDS

Year Boris Johnson Is Replaced As PM

3/1 2021

5/1 2022

1/2 2023 or later

Boris Johnson to be Tory leader at next general election

EVS No

5/6 Yes

Next Conservative Party Leader

2/1 Rishi Sunak

13/2 Michael Gove

15/2 Jeremy Hunt

9/1 Liz Truss

14/1 Dominic Raab

16/1 Sajid Javid

16/1 Priti Patel

22/1 Amber Rudd

22/1 Tom Tugendhat

25/1 bar

That list of possible replacements must be rather depressing.

Imagine Brain of Britain Truss as the fourth favourite.
 
The right wing press are also feeding the masses sycophantic revisionism like this, even using his own recklessness in catching it as some form of defence.

THE SUN SAYS
Boris Johnson’s every act since Covid struck suggests a PM who would do anything to avoid ‘bodies piled high’



https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14773772/boris-johnson-everything-but-callous-remark-reported/

Or, they're normalising apathy in the wake of tens of thousands of people dying unnecessarily.



Telegraph columnist, who will no doubt write an objective article on this.
 
Odds Slashed On Boris Exit This Year As Pressure Mounts On PM



Johnson 3/1 From 6/1 To Be Gone By 2022

Boris Johnson is set to come under even more pressure if the latest betting patterns are to be believed after he was gambled to be ousted from Downing Street as early as this year.

Criticism of the PM mounted on Tuesday as Labour accused him of lying about who paid for renovations of his Downing Street flat, while new allegations claim Johnson told aides in September that he would rather let coronavirus ‘rip’ than impose a second lockdown.

Now the chances of a Tory leadership election being triggered in the near future are getting shorter as BoyleSports cut the odds on him being replaced this year in half from 6/1 to 3/1. It’s also an even money shot from 2/1 that a new leader is in place by the time the Conservatives go into their next general election campaign.

Chancellor Rishi Sunak is the 2/1 favourite be the next Tory leader, but Michael Gove is a notable mover in the market after falling into 6/1 from 11/1 to replace Johnson despite backing his party leader this week.

Lawrence Lyons, spokesperson for BoyleSports said: “Boris Johnson has already denied some damaging leaks but as the week goes on the pressure only seems to be increasing. The odds on him being replaced are going in the opposite direction and after a significant spike in speculation we’ve had no choice but to cut him into 3/1 from 6/1 to be gone by the end of the year.”

ENDS

Year Boris Johnson Is Replaced As PM

3/1 2021

5/1 2022

1/2 2023 or later

Boris Johnson to be Tory leader at next general election

EVS No

5/6 Yes

Next Conservative Party Leader

2/1 Rishi Sunak

13/2 Michael Gove

15/2 Jeremy Hunt

9/1 Liz Truss

14/1 Dominic Raab

16/1 Sajid Javid

16/1 Priti Patel

22/1 Amber Rudd

22/1 Tom Tugendhat

25/1 bar
I can see cummings leaking and briefing more and more over the next few weeks

The real challange will be can they force a resignation as im sure nobody fancies being seen with blood on their hands by mounting a formal leadership bid

Surprised Jacob isnt in the running - I think amongst the eligable voters he would do really well
 




Can't wait to see how Johnson wriggles out of this one.

*Johnson wriggles out of it easily*

Oh.
 
PM 'can't be expected to live in skip', says Gove's wife, Sarah Vine
Sarah Vine, the Daily Mail columnist who is married to Michael Gove, the Cabinet Office minister, defended Boris Johnson’s right to have his Downing Street flat refurbished on the Today programme this morning, saying the PM “can’t be expected to live in a skip”. She said:
The thing about the whole No 10 refurbishment thing is that the prime minister can’t be expected to live in a skip.
He has to live to a certain standard and the problem with all of these political things like this is that no-one is ever prepared to bite the bullet.
Here's a picture of the skip he is living in from five years ago;

16478080-9317619-Bringing_your_work_home_David_Cameron_working_on_one_of_his_red_-a-63_1614705589727.jpg


Unless Cameron and May ran around flinging shit on the walls since then, of course...
 




Can't wait to see how Johnson wriggles out of this one.

*Johnson wriggles out of it easily*

Oh.


At today's PMQ, Starter has plenty of ammunition to nail Boris.
He absolutely must not allow Boris to claim that he is totally focused on the vaccination programme. That process is now fully established and Johnson is actually spending his time campaigning.
Starmer must not let Boris evade his questions and he must tie him down.
 
At today's PMQ, Starter has plenty of ammunition to nail Boris.
He absolutely must not allow Boris to claim that he is totally focused on the vaccination programme. That process is now fully established and Johnson is actually spending his time campaigning.
Starmer must not let Boris evade his questions and he must tie him down.

He's had plenty of ammunition since he became Labour leader. Been weak as piss. Might as well be a Tory.
 
Here's a picture of the skip he is living in from five years ago;

16478080-9317619-Bringing_your_work_home_David_Cameron_working_on_one_of_his_red_-a-63_1614705589727.jpg


Unless Cameron and May ran around flinging shit on the walls since then, of course...

The money should have gone into a new PM briefcase.
 




Can't wait to see how Johnson wriggles out of this one.

*Johnson wriggles out of it easily*

Oh.

Genuinley not sure he will - I think enough of his cabinet colleagues see this as their est chance to oust him ... sunak must be creaming himself at the thought he could get johnson out and take over just in time to claim the glory of the vaccine roll out but avoid the scruitiny of the initial responce .... and to have given lots of money away before the taxes rise to start recouping ... and of course Gove will as always be looking for people to stab in the back and give himself a promotion.

Im also not entirely sure he really wants the job - hes done it - hes been PM - he will forever claim he got brexit done and he can bumble around rake in some cash then run for London Mayor again in a few years
 
Genuinley not sure he will - I think enough of his cabinet colleagues see this as their est chance to oust him ... sunak must be creaming himself at the thought he could get johnson out and take over just in time to claim the glory of the vaccine roll out but avoid the scruitiny of the initial responce .... and to have given lots of money away before the taxes rise to start recouping ... and of course Gove will as always be looking for people to stab in the back and give himself a promotion.

Im also not entirely sure he really wants the job - hes done it - hes been PM - he will forever claim he got brexit done and he can bumble around rake in some cash then run for London Mayor again in a few years

If the Tories oust Bobo then that's him thrown under the bus for the whole thing isn't it.
 
Starmer did ok today I think... hes clearly got johnson on record on some clear points so if there is any traction in the investiagtion johnson is probably going to be on a "sticky wicket" (as Bojo might call it)

A bad local election set of results and Johnson might be jumping before he is pushed (with a big knife in the back)
 
My God Boris is so frustrating at PMQs

He is so slippery. But I do believe that the Speaker should push Johnson to actually answer the questions and not bumble on about the first stupid thing that comes into his head.
But Starmer asked very specific questions and Johnson committed himself. So we will see the outcome.
 
He's had plenty of ammunition since he became Labour leader. Been weak as piss. Might as well be a Tory.

Can't argue with that. His forensic questioning is not really working. Boris just ignores the questions.
He needs to get his point over with much more passion. But that is where he is lacking.
 
Johnson definitely seemed to lose it there, the poor little darling really doesn't like being questioned does he?

 
Johnson definitely seemed to lose it there, the poor little darling really doesn't like being questioned does he?


I think starmer did well today - it was clearly in his comfort zone but the pointed questions did elisit responces which could spell trouble for boris I think... that said a bad bunch of results in the May elections and with cummings testimony to come not long after I think he might well jump before being pushed and announce that now brexit is done and that he has defeated covid its time for him to spend some time with his family... and let gove, sunak and patel fight it out to be crowned king cnut at the conference
 
I would have thought all of these politicians had bigger fish to fry instead of looking for scandal. All the Tories have to do is mention Joe Anderson and the Unite hotel in Birmingham if they want some sleaze and alleged corruption and jobs for the boys. Ner ner ne ner ner.
 
I can see cummings leaking and briefing more and more over the next few weeks

Unless he's made an offer he cannot refuse!

The real challange will be can they force a resignation as im sure nobody fancies being seen with blood on their hands by mounting a formal leadership bid

"He who wields the knife, never wears the crown"... must be something in that?

Surprised Jacob isnt in the running - I think amongst the eligable voters he would do really well

Well certainly his nanny would vote for him...but can't see 'red wall' voters taking to him though!