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Starting with 10K from birth in a retirement fund invested in the usual ways for 60 years would be worth the best part of 2 million without any top ups

If you assume the same historical growth rates apply then you also have to consider inflation rate over the same period. That £2 million in 60 years will be equivalent to £60k now. You would imagine life expectancy to have increased too in 60 years so that would have to strech even further.
 
Because despite general ignorance, "I've paid in all my life" national insurance and income tax isn't going into a savings account and has already been spent. State pension is being paid out of tax receipts. If their isn't enough tax coming in to cover pensions then no more pensions. Considering the ratio between people of working age and pensioners is going the wrong way, the the concept of state provided pensions is unsustainable without a radical change to our tax system i.e. wealth taxes etc.

A large percentage of people under 40 will never be able to retire. No final salry pensions, low % of annual salary paid into a private pension, tiny state pension (if it still exists) and no speculative property wealth to cash in on. Good times ahead!

Thats a fallacy that had been telling us and keep repeating to us and now it became truth.

I agree that the current system is unsustainable but start with that 400 people in us owns 60% than the bottom half

Tax appropiately, cut the corruption and see how it works. But i guess is easier to blame us yo live too long
 
Because despite general ignorance, "I've paid in all my life" national insurance and income tax isn't going into a savings account and has already been spent. State pension is being paid out of tax receipts. If their isn't enough tax coming in to cover pensions then no more pensions. Considering the ratio between people of working age and pensioners is going the wrong way, the the concept of state provided pensions is unsustainable without a radical change to our tax system i.e. wealth taxes etc.

A large percentage of people under 40 will never be able to retire. No final salry pensions, low % of annual salary paid into a private pension, tiny state pension (if it still exists) and no speculative property wealth to cash in on. Good times ahead!
It might be a good thing for most people not to retire at all.
 
They need to tax more if they want to spend. They will be burned politically if they did.

Tax burden is already the highest its been since WW2. Hiking taxes is not a realistic option at this point.
 
An interesting idea that they'll achieve growth through austerity. I really think it can work this time.
It’s seem the labour leadership genuinely think the reason austerity doesn’t work is because the tories are incompetent. Which is crazy.
 
Tax burden is already the highest its been since WW2. Hiking taxes is not a realistic option at this point.

Not if you're rich it's not.

For example, KPMG analysis "Corporate Tax Rate in the United Kingdom averaged 30.28 percent from 1981 until 2023, reaching an all time high of 52.00 percent in 1982 and a record low of 19.00 percent in 2017. source: HM Revenue & Customs. In the United Kingdom, the Corporate Income tax rate is a tax collected from companies."

So I don't think anyone thinks that corporation tax should be up at 50% again but say 20% for small companies, 25% for medium and 30% for large ones would be by no means onerous.
 
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Was listening to ******* Harman talking about 1997. How they had to earn the public trust with the economy, have realistic spending and create the economic conditions for a more expansive offering on their future campaigns. She was pointing out that its even more of a mess than the one they inherited
 
Not if you're rich it's not.

For example, KPMG analysis "Corporate Tax Rate in the United Kingdom averaged 30.28 percent from 1981 until 2023, reaching an all time high of 52.00 percent in 1982 and a record low of 19.00 percent in 2017. source: HM Revenue & Customs. In the United Kingdom, the Corporate Income tax rate is a tax collected from companies."

So I don't think anyone thinks that corporation tax should be up at 50% again but say 20% for small companies, 25% for medium and 30% for large ones would be by no means onerous.

Yeah corporation tax is too low, its not stimulated the economy as hoped and its much lower than European peers.

Personal taxes on the other hand are far too high and middle earners are especially hard hit which is why our productivity has flatlined.
 
It should trigger an immediate by-election. How can you get elected representing one party and then switch, clearly contradicting what constituents voted for?
 
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His little pecker is stiff as a board, all this fuss, all this press, he cannot believe it and is utterly reveling in it all.