Westminster Politics 2024-2029

That's a shame.

You can’t stop existing licenses. Everything covered by them is already bought, and traded daily. They exist on balance sheets, they’re linked to so much.

I’d vote to stop it all but that would ruin global markets, not just UK gdp. It can’t just stop.
 

The voters weren't meant to vote for someone else, though.

I have lived in Leicester South. It is almost treated as a fiefdom by the Labour Party. They lost it in a by-election to the Lib Dems in 2004, but won it back in the 2005 election, and pretty much assumed it would always be theirs. That's why the Labour supermajority on the Council has been whittled down by the Tories too, despite their national unpopularity.
 
Lowest turnout in UK general election since universal suffrage, report shows
Just over half of the British adults voted at the 2024 general election, making it the lowest turnout by share of population since universal suffrage, according to a report.

The Institute for Public Policy Research thinktank found that just 52% of UK adults cast their ballots on 4 July, which is the lowest since the vote was extended to all adults over 21 in 1928.


Turnout has been reported as being the lowest since 2001 – measured by votes counted as a proportion of adults who have registered to vote.

However, the IPPR said the figures are even lower as a share of the whole adult population, meaning if non-voting was a party, it would have the largest share of support by far.

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...lection-since-universal-suffrage-report-shows
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Wow he seems to be taking it well.

In fairness it's missing the wider context of a supporter of the new MP being arrested for terrorism related offences and the MP declining to face questions about it so he was invited and obviously criticised the MP and their cowardice
 
Lowest turnout in UK general election since universal suffrage, report shows

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The paragraph from Pareth Patel (research fellow IPPR) states;
"If democracy is collective self rule and only half of us are voting you do have to ask about the other half, who politics and policy making are less responsive to a result".

I wonder if he or his fellow researchers have ever done research into why this is? Why have they not asked already?
I suppose the interest is only in those who vote, and why, not into to those who don't and why?

Seems like a gap in the research market there?
 
In fairness it's missing the wider context of a supporter of the new MP being arrested for terrorism related offences and the MP declining to face questions about it so he was invited and obviously criticised the MP and their cowardice
and what about the outrage in the leicester community that the arrest of this supporter has been used to smear the independent with lots of innuendo and a clear dog whistle undercurrent. the supporter also happens to be a very prominent local pro-palestine campaigner, who helped raise the ire against Ashworth after sharing videos of Ashworth refusing to answer questions on gaza. everyone i speak to thinks the whole arrest was in someway linked to ashworths defeat, and the way he has jumped on it reinforces that. Ashworth also potentially broke sub-judice rules with some of the messages he sent.
 
and what about the outrage in the leicester community that the arrest of this supporter has been used to smear the independent with lots of innuendo and a clear dog whistle undercurrent. the supporter also happens to be a very prominent local pro-palestine campaigner, who helped raise the ire against Ashworth after sharing videos of Ashworth refusing to answer questions on gaza. everyone i speak to thinks the whole arrest was in someway linked to ashworths defeat, and the way he has jumped on it reinforces that. Ashworth also potentially broke sub-judice rules with some of the messages he sent.

Sounds unhinged
 
Sounds unhinged
muslims should just get back in their box. is that the way?

Reading the commentary from the right wing press and also the jewish press (theres a few more libel lawsuits incoming to drain the finances of the jewish chronicle and its secret funders), its pathetic how they are claiming that its unacceptable / dangerous for muslims to be mobilizing democratically on issues.
 
I saw one of the videos where Ashworth claimed he was being harassed, abused or whatever. He was being asked questions about his stance on Gaza. He didn't try to engage. He just started claiming that he was being intimidated and bullied. He was grinning half the time. It was all rather performative.

 
muslims should just get back in their box. is that the way?

Reading the commentary from the right wing press and also the jewish press (theres a few more libel lawsuits incoming to drain the finances of the jewish chronicle and its secret funders), its pathetic how they are claiming that its unacceptable / dangerous for muslims to be mobilizing democratically on issues.

Continues to sound unhinged
 
I saw one of the videos where Ashworth claimed he was being harassed, abused or whatever. He was being asked questions about his stance on Gaza. He didn't try to engage. He just started claiming that he was being intimidated and bullied. He was grinning half the time. It was all rather performative.


That area wasn't even Ashworths constituency (his is the next door), think it was 'clever' plan to be seen wandering around a predominately muslim area, with some 'muslim community leader' types, which backfired rather spectacularly.
 
In fairness it's missing the wider context of a supporter of the new MP being arrested for terrorism related offences and the MP declining to face questions about it so he was invited and obviously criticised the MP and their cowardice

What does supporter mean in this context?

Does it mean campaign manager? Does it mean best friend and right hand man? Does it mean biggest donor? Does it mean random supporter?

Ashworth has been pathetic through the whole campaign.
 
What does supporter mean in this context?

Does it mean campaign manager? Does it mean best friend and right hand man? Does it mean biggest donor? Does it mean random supporter?

Ashworth has been pathetic through the whole campaign.

Active campaigner, the closeness is subject to questioning which the new MP has not been open about at the point at which the interview happened

It should also be said that the accused is presumed innocent, however an MP should be open to scrutiny about it
 
Active campaigner, the closeness is subject to questioning which the new MP has not been open about at the point at which the interview happened

It should also be said that the accused is presumed innocent, however an MP should be open to scrutiny about it
the only connection between the new MP and the accused is the palestine issue. most activists were quite happy to campaign / promote independents running on a pro palestine platform, up and down the country. the unsaid bit, is that they are both brown muslims.
 
An explainer about the 'wealth fund' and why it probably won't be what everyone thinks it is.

Blakeley is very good with the economic or financial stuff.

 
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Fecking idiot isn't he. Not even a week gone by.

I like Starmer but he's got some rotten apples in his party and cabinet he needs to shift ASAP.
Idiot for what? Doing it (as wrongly reported) or not doing it, as has actually happened?
 
Idiot for what? Doing it (as wrongly reported) or not doing it, as has actually happened?

Well who knows at this point. Some very reputable news sources who don't make stuff up are reporting it (FT, Guardian). Certainly sounds like they're thinking about it at the very least.

He's a fecking idiot if he does it. Well, he is one anyway, but will be even more of one.
 
Well who knows at this point. Some very reputable news sources who don't make stuff up are reporting it (FT, Guardian). Certainly sounds like they're thinking about it at the very least.

He's a fecking idiot if he does it. Well, he is one anyway, but will be even more of one.

Because...tying our economy further to oil in a world where wind and solar are far cheaper energy sources would be better economically? And accelerating the destruction of the planet would make us all wealthier too?
 
Well who knows at this point. Some very reputable news sources who don't make stuff up are reporting it (FT, Guardian). Certainly sounds like they're thinking about it at the very least.

He's a fecking idiot if he does it. Well, he is one anyway, but will be even more of one.
Why? What benefit would more drilling bring us? It's all owned by the big power companies and the majority of it gets exported to other countries.
 
We need oil and gas. We have oil and gas. It's already daft that we only use it for about 10% of UK fuel but to eradicate it completely? Well at least Putin would be happy.

We're also skint and its a huge source of revenue for the country.
 
Oh well if Rowling says she’s for trans rights then why should we think any differently?
 
We need oil and gas. We have oil and gas. It's already daft that we only use it for about 10% of UK fuel but to eradicate it completely? Well at least Putin would be happy.

We're also skint and its a huge source of revenue for the country.
These licenses aren't going to be revenue generating for another 10 to 20 years. That is the timescale we need to be aggressively switching to zero carbon generation, not investing in a declining industry. We have to make choices that show we are serious about the problem.
 
These licenses aren't going to be revenue generating for another 10 to 20 years. That is the timescale we need to be aggressively switching to zero carbon generation, not investing in a declining industry. We have to make choices that show we are serious about the problem.

Yeah but the right wing media says it's a scandal so.....

As you say the lead time on these licenses is decades they're probably not even going to be particularly necessary by 2050-2060.

We've already tapped nearly all of the north oil reserves and its extraction gets less and less profitable.

Even the economic argument is nonsense, focusing on renewables is a massive GDP boon and not having to import so much will help with balance of payments.
 
Yeah but the right wing media says it's a scandal so.....

As you say the lead time on these licenses is decades they're probably not even going to be particularly necessary by 2050-2060.

We've already tapped nearly all of the north oil reserves and its extraction gets less and less profitable.

Even the economic argument is nonsense, focusing on renewables is a massive GDP boon and not having to import so much will help with balance of payments.
Yep, another great decision, boil certain peoples piss for added bonus.
 
We need oil and gas. We have oil and gas. It's already daft that we only use it for about 10% of UK fuel but to eradicate it completely? Well at least Putin would be happy.

We're also skint and its a huge source of revenue for the country.

https://www.e3g.org/news/tax-relief-oil-gas-trouble-uk-household-bills-energy-transition/

Investment in these schemes earns tax relief of 90%+ so it's certainly not doing much for the treasury, and judging by the fairly flat share price and dividend growth of the likes of BP, it's not a great investment for them either. Not to mention the cost of decommissioning these oil fields that somehow always seems to be heavily subsidised by the taxpayer...

Putin would be a lot more alarmed if we spent the fossil fuel subsidies on upgrading the National Grid and installing insulation and heat pumps in people's homes, and it could show returns in a timescale that might affect the war in Ukraine too.
 
We need oil and gas. We have oil and gas. It's already daft that we only use it for about 10% of UK fuel but to eradicate it completely? Well at least Putin would be happy.

We're also skint and its a huge source of revenue for the country.

There is a good reason why we only use oil and gas for about 10% of UK fuel. Because it is much more expensive.
Onshore and offshore wind is by far the cheapest and is getting cheaper.
It is simple economics.