Westminster Politics 2024-2029

Remember, there's no money for anything. Warms the cockles, don't it?

£100m spent in England on failed efforts to block children’s Send support

'More than £100m was spent last year by local authorities and the government on failed efforts to block support for children and young people with special educational needs in England, according to analysis by the Guardian.'

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...ailed-efforts-to-block-childrens-send-support

Edit... Frosty got in before me!
I wondered if you'd taken even 5 mins to actually look at why this might be, rather than post a link for hollow laughs. Because there's actually a brewing crisis here which this is a symptom of.

There are 576,000 kids with EHCPs. Each child can get up to £6,000 in additional funding with an EHCP (you need an EHCP to get SEND funding, which Councils are legally obligated to pay for - the govt doesn't pay for it). These are expensive to fund, it goes on stuff like specialist staff, paying for extra teaching assistants etc - you can do the maths - and councils don't have enough money. Every year, more and more EHCPs have been applied for - in 2022, the number of EHCPs issued rose by 26% on the prior year. The result of this is councils now have SEND related debts of £4billion, not enough funding and rising demand.

So it's a crisis. And in that crisis councils have been trying to manage EHCPs given the demand. Which means they are trying to challenge EHCP certification, as anyone with friends with SEND-possible kids will know. That is why this money has been spent to try to manage demand. It's not right, but it's a symptom of much bigger problem that needs solving. But "warms the cockles, yeah"
 
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For a party that is what....5 years old, they are doing very well.
They aren't though, they are rebadged UKIP. They were polling at about 15% in 2014. I think they peaked at 27.5% in the Euro elections in 2014.
 
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I wondered if you'd taken even 5 mins to actually look at why this might be, rather than post a link for hollow laughs.

Genuine concern? It's a football forum. I come on here to shoot some shit, have an argument.

But I get that some people come here mainly to show off how much they care about things to a bunch of strangers.
 
I'm having an argument "Dumbo", well done for noticing. (And I do actually have a vested interest in this particular subject). You are however the exact person I was talking about when it came to performative caring, so I can see I got my aim right.
 
Just pointing out how your constant attempts to sanctimoniously chastise others for mild flippancy is hollow and performative, and seeks to disingenuously obfuscate their criticism. It's weak boy shit.
 
:lol:

This is very useful context for your posts in this thread.
I used vote labour until 2008/7 ish - Gordon Brown was the last straw.

I was at the anti war protests is 2002/3 and I was never going to vote for them "Tories" but then the war and recession got me to thinking - there must be better and I almost forgot how bad labour are, these guys are not even in the same ball park as Blair (and I hated him).
 
I used vote labour until 2008/7 ish - Gordon Brown was the last straw.

I was at the anti war protests is 2002/3 and I was never going to vote for them "Tories" but then the war and recession got me to thinking - there must be better and I almost forgot how bad labour are, these guys are not even in the same ball park as Blair (and I hated him).
Brown was the last straw but the last 14 years of Tory rule haven't been enough for you? What is better in this country today than it was in 2010, before they took over? Literally everything is worse.

The current version of Labour is woeful but anyone still voting Tory clearly hates Britain and wants to see it destroyed further.
 
Brown was the last straw but the last 14 years of Tory rule haven't been enough for you? What is better in this country today than it was in 2010, before they took over? Literally everything is worse.

The current version of Labour is woeful but anyone still voting Tory clearly hates Britain and wants to see it destroyed further.
Do you not remember the reason for it?

The bold part is absolute rubbish, it's like me saying because you voted Labour you hate farmers, old people, small to medium size business and Waspi women. I'm not a fan of black or white ideology, it's all grey to me.

Even the idea of identity based off any view seems weird to me, we are humans.
 
Do you not remember the reason for it?

The bold part is absolute rubbish, it's like me saying because you voted Labour you hate farmers, old people, small to medium size business and Waspi women. I'm not a fan of black or white ideology, it's all grey to me.

Even the idea of identity based off any view seems weird to me, we are humans.
If Labour spent 14 years attacking those groups in order to enrich themselves and I then told you I still voted Labour, it would be absolutely fair for you to say that.

Because that's what the Tories did. 14 years of government policy which made the country worse but coincidentally made them and their donors incredibly rich.
 
If Labour spent 14 years attacking those groups in order to enrich themselves and I then told you I still voted Labour, it would be absolutely fair for you to say that.

Because that's what the Tories did. 14 years of government policy which made the country worse but coincidentally made them and their donors incredibly rich.
They have done it in 5 months, i suppose that's good for productivity.

Of course Labour are whiter than white.


Or blair who was the master at this.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2009/dec/01/mystery-tony-blair-finances

People bang on about the black hole 22 billion (not that anything has been released about it) but in 2008:

"The UK government's 2008 bank bailout cost an estimated £137 billion in cash loans and capital injections to support the banking sector"

Isn't Kier top of the list for donations?

Anyway I have to go wrap some fecking presents.
 
What is better in this country today than it was in 2010, before they took over?
House prices. It gets masked as spending too much on welfare, Gordon Brown selling all the gold, anti immigration, empire nostalgia, etc. But the reality is home owning Tory voters from the 80’s onwards have decided rising house prices are worth more than anything else in the UK.
 
As a non-UK person, what does Starmer's Labour stand for exactly? Any positive initiatives since winning the election? The little bits of news I get from UK politics doesn't seem very inspiring and neither is Starmer's approval rating. :lol:
 
As a non-UK person, what does Starmer's Labour stand for exactly? Any positive initiatives since winning the election? The little bits of news I get from UK politics doesn't seem very inspiring and neither is Starmer's approval rating. :lol:
They would describe themselves as centrists without the sleaze and nepotistic corruption of the Tories. They pretty much won the election on account of them being the biggest opposition party who weren't the Tories, aided by our disproportional electoral system.
 
House prices. It gets masked as spending too much on welfare, Gordon Brown selling all the gold, anti immigration, empire nostalgia, etc. But the reality is home owning Tory voters from the 80’s onwards have decided rising house prices are worth more than anything else in the UK.
Can't argue with that
 
Are you speaking about devolution of councils?

Labour said they wanted more city mayor's, it could push out local elections as the boundaries or even the local council will change.

The cynic in me can see why they are driving this change very quickly.


That's 33% gain, and a 33% loss to labour, Reform took only this one but they are making 8% to 30% gains.

People might say "the real point here is the turn out" - but to me the size of the data set doesn't matter its the information inside the data.

I am worried about about our economy lots of hiring freezing in the UK or 6 month contracts being offered.


The size of the data matters hugely as it did in the referendum. Those who are against always wait for that moment so always manage to turn out in numbers.

That is peak Reform numbers for the ward 272. Labour has been winning over 1200 votes fielding two candidates and gaining two seats each time. Nothing to see here.
 
The size of the data matters hugely as it did in the referendum. Those who are against always wait for that moment so always manage to turn out in numbers.

That is peak Reform numbers for the ward 272. Labour has been winning over 1200 votes fielding two candidates and gaining two seats each time. Nothing to see here.
What are you on about? of course it matters in a referendum:

A general vote by the electorate on a single political question = two variables? So the numbers matter becuase it's a

If (yes = true) {
Printin "yeah";
} else {
Printin "what is a fecking ward";
};

Sorry drunk... mixed up a couple of syntaxes...
 
Kemi on Musk's threats to fund Reform:
“I do not believe that he is going to give that money, but it doesn’t matter if he does because it is a challenge to make sure that we can raise the same.
Our political system is openly a racket at this point.
 
What are you on about? of course it matters in a referendum:

A general vote by the electorate on a single political question = two variables? So the numbers matter becuase it's a

If (yes = true) {
Printin "yeah";
} else {
Printin "what is a fecking ward";
};

Sorry drunk... mixed up a couple of syntaxes...

That's what I said the size of the data matters just like it did for the referendum because that was the one and only chance everyone who was against were waiting for and they were all going to turn up.
 
That's what I said the size of the data matters just like it did for the referendum because that was the one and only chance everyone who was against were waiting for and they were all going to turn up.
But it's still a yes or no, i look at the by-election results a form of a poll.
 
No, I voted tories
Didn't you grow up in Hulme in the 80s/90s? How the feck could you stomach that vote?

I didn't/wouldn't vote for this version of Labour either but then going and voting Tory (or Reform) instead is like trying to put out a fire with a can of petrol.

We need an actual alternative in this country if we have any hope for the future. Tory politics has set us back decades and Labours slightly tweaked Tory politics won't stop the rot. Going extreme Tory politics (Reform) will only accelerate the decline.
 
Didn't you grow up in Hulme in the 80s/90s? How the feck could you stomach that vote?

I didn't/wouldn't vote for this version of Labour either but then going and voting Tory (or Reform) instead is like trying to put out a fire with a can of petrol.

We need an actual alternative in this country if we have any hope for the future. Tory politics has set us back decades and Labours slightly tweaked Tory politics won't stop the rot. Going extreme Tory politics (Reform) will only accelerate the decline.
Didn't believe in the invasion of Afghanistan. Didn't think bin Laden would just stay there, It was like robbing a bank and standing outside the damn thing for the 52 (my favourite bus) too arrive.

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My whole family hate the Torries.

I just hope Rachel from accounts can give her head a wobble.
 
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Didn't you grow up in Hulme in the 80s/90s? How the feck could you stomach that vote?

I didn't/wouldn't vote for this version of Labour either but then going and voting Tory (or Reform) instead is like trying to put out a fire with a can of petrol.

We need an actual alternative in this country if we have any hope for the future. Tory politics has set us back decades and Labours slightly tweaked Tory politics won't stop the rot. Going extreme Tory politics (Reform) will only accelerate the decline.
Bingo.
 
But it's still a yes or no, i look at the by-election results a form of a poll.
It's not an accurate poll as the size of the data suggests. It shows peak Reform voters for the ward and apathy from everyone else.
 



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Sacking his Chancellor would be a good start, along with a few others in his cabinet.

I have no experience of the other regulators but the FCA are notoriously hopeless. I dread to think what they will come up with.
He needs to sack that little rat Streeting as well.
 
Some vomit inducing political Knight/Damehoods.

Sir Sadiq Khan
Dame Emily Thornberry
Dame Patricia Hewitt
 
He'll be PM by the end of 2026
Would he win the leadership election? Assuming there is one. They've done everything they can to rig the process in favour of the party establishment over the membership. Think you need the backing of at least 20% of the PLP to stand in a leadership election now since Stamer's lot changed the rules. So 81 Labour MPs need to back you as it stands. So it probably won't matter. Next leader will be anointed and will no doubt be some shyster like Streeting.
 
Would he win the leadership election? Assuming there is one. They've done everything they can to rig the process in favour of the party establishment over the membership. Think you need the backing of at least 20% of the PLP to stand in a leadership election now since Stamer's lot changed the rules. So 81 Labour MPs need to back you as it stands. So it probably won't matter. Next leader will be anointed and will no doubt be some shyster like Streeting.
Yep that is precisely my reasoning. It will be unopposed like Brown.