Wesley Sneijder

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Wibble said:
Wage structure? The wage structure we shattered to pay Rooney enough to stay? That wage structure?

I don't know why you all insist on making things up about why he will or won't come. United will know what they are prepared to pay in terms of transfer fee and wages and Inter/Sneijder will know what they will accept. Things will line up or they won't. Why the pages of hormonal stressing?
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No one knows how much exactly Rooney earns and it's difficult to compare him with Sneijder because he's not only our best player but also the most influential one, and a leader on the pitch. Pretty much everyone knows Rooney is our best player so him being on £160k a week is not a big deal, however to give Sneijder what he earns at Inter - and I have no doubt that he will expect to earn at least that much - will send out a wrong message IMO and could be harmful long term, but that's just my opinion.

I don't care either way, it's not my money, I'm just pointing out that from the economical point of view spending £75m on Sneijder over four years makes little sense. If we sign him, then fine, but latest development - or more accurately the lack of it - points to the fact that we're not willing to spend that much either.
 
Sarni said:
No one knows how much exactly Rooney earns and it's difficult to compare him with Sneijder because he's not only our best player but also the most influential one, and a leader on the pitch. Pretty much everyone knows Rooney is our best player so him being on £160k a week is not a big deal, however to give Sneijder what he earns at Inter - and I have no doubt that he will expect to earn at least that much - will send out a wrong message IMO and could be harmful long term, but that's just my opinion.

I don't care either way, it's not my money, I'm just pointing out that from the economical point of view spending £75m on Sneijder over four years makes little sense. If we sign him, then fine, but latest development - or more accurately the lack of it - points to the fact that we're not willing to spend that much either.
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Sneijder is as big as a name as Rooney.
 
Sarni said:
Sneijder won't control games for us anyway, for that to happen we would need a strong, combatitive midfielder in Keano's mould, not a tiny playmaker. It's a Keane like player that we are missing at the moment because our wingers, Rooney and current crop of midfielders provide just enough creativity.
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I disagree. We defintely need a bigger creative source, and having Rooney to drop deep would allow the opposition to defend further up the field or leaving Hernandez isolated and outnumbered. Our current central midfield is not good enough in terms of beating players, threading through balls, etc. We are not seeing the problems yet, cos we have not faced a team that is employing an ultra negative tactic so far. There won't be another Keane and Fletcher in that role is good enough. However, if you pair fletcher with any of our current midfielder, there will be a void of creativity in the middle, and the result is we tend to over-reliant on the wingers and our football becomes very predictable. Fletcher has to remain as what he is, primarily defensive duties, winning the ball and protecting our back four, leaving the other midfielder dictacting all our offensive plays. I can't really put it into words well, but i think you get the message.
 
BAMSOLA said:
Hasn't proved it for us and isn't the player we need anyway.
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i agree that sneijder is not the player we need. he costs too much for his age. i'd rather see cleverly progress and pogba have a chance. it is true that sneijder would immediately improve our best starting 11 in europe. But pogba, cleverly, and anderson could all become players of his caliber with enough chances and experience.
 
A month ago I would've killed a bag of kittens to get Sneijder.

After seeing the progress of Anderson and Cleverley... feck Sneijder. Waste of money. I want to see our young guns grow into the force they can be.
 
BAMSOLA said:
Hasn't proved it for us and isn't the player we need anyway.
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Salaries are given according to the experience/quality of the person you're employing and the role given. If that wasn't the case then Giggs would be the most paid player at United while De Gea would be on minimum wage.
 
If there is to be a move, it will be last minute.



I don't think it will happen, hopefully.
 
D J Dog Toffee said:
He's not though. I don't think a company like EA would use him on the cover of their football game in the US, and I'm sure in Asia there are plenty of folks who know Rooney and have never heard of Sneijider.

Maybe in Holland, but the rest of the world? No.
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Who hasn't heard of Sneijder? In the past year he's made an impression with Inter and on the World Cup as one of the most influential players in those teams. People just don't watch the Premier League.
 
R. Lim said:
Who hasn't heard of Sneijder? In the past year he's made an impression with Inter and on the World Cup as one of the most influential players in those teams. People just don't watch the Premier League.
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Inter's got a fraction of the worldwide following of Manchester United. Rooney is on a whole other level to this Dutch bloke, in terms of global status.

Who gives a feck anyway? Rooney's our best player and paid accordingly. Sneijder can't expect to join a club like United and demand to be paid better (or as well as) their best player, before he's proved himself at his new club.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Inter's got a fraction of the worldwide following of Manchester United. Rooney is on a whole other level to this Dutch bloke, in terms of global status.

Who gives a feck anyway? Rooney's our best player and paid accordingly. Sneijder can't expect to join a club like United and demand to be paid better (or as well as) their best player.
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Sums it up really well Mr Mahone.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Inter's got a fraction of the worldwide following of Manchester United. Rooney is on a whole other level to this Dutch bloke, in terms of global status.

Who gives a feck anyway? Rooney's our best player and paid accordingly. Sneijder can't expect to join a club like United and demand to be paid better (or as well as) their best player.
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I doubt it's true anyway.

The impression I got during that saga is that Inter just won't let him go.
I think he is desperate to move, but now with Inter selling Etoo for silly money they probably will get their finances right and are in no need to sell Sneijder.
 
Sarni said:
£200k a week that has been rumoured is absolutely mental, whether he is Wesley Sneijder or Diego Maradona. It'd completely ruin our wage structure, not to mention that it's £10m a year and we'd be buying him with a view of a 4-year contract at least which combined with a £35m price tag gives us an expense of £75m. We don't need to spend this kind of money, our midfield has been fine lately and it's possible that Cleverley will provide a sufficient solution while we wait on Tunniclife and Pogba to fully develop in the next two or three years. We could spend this £75m elsewhere, we could build a new side of young players with that kind of money. We got an exciting team on our hands, I had my doubts if we could pull it off without a new midfielder but now I really want us to try.
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You don't know what other players get so talking about the wage structure is nonsense.

Rooney got a massive pay rise from what he was on previously (quoted at about £150k a week) and United themselves said at the time that they'd offered him a deal to make him the "best paid player in the Country".
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Inter's got a fraction of the worldwide following of Manchester United. Rooney is on a whole other level to this Dutch bloke, in terms of global status.

Who gives a feck anyway? Rooney's our best player and paid accordingly. Sneijder can't expect to join a club like United and demand to be paid better (or as well as) their best player, before he's proved himself at his new club.
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That is how football (or any other field of work) works. If you want the services of the best in the world, you have to pay for it!

Maybe not as well as Rooney. But if we were to buy him, he would most certainly getting paid as well as he is a Inter, I don't blame him for asking for that much. I also don't expect us to pay it, I don't want us to either.
 
Godfather said:
I doubt it's true anyway.

The impression I got during that saga is that Inter just won't let him go.
I think he is desperate to move, but now with Inter selling Etoo for silly money they probably will get their finances right and are in no need to sell Sneijder.
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If the reports about Inters finances are true it would probably take much more than selling Eto'o to fix things though. Apparently their wage bill is something like 105% of turnover.
 
What if what he's getting paid at Inter is more than what Rooney is getting paid here? This could easily be the sticking point.
 
unitedbhoy said:
That is how football (or any other field of work) works. If you want the services of the best in the world, you have to pay for it!

Maybe not as well as Rooney. But if we were to buy him, he would most certainly getting paid as well as he is a Inter, I don't blame him for asking for that much. I also don't expect us to pay it, I don't want us to either.
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Even though I've only got a vague idea about how much either of them are being paid I'm assuming the contradiction in bold is the reason this move won't happen.
 
R. Lim said:
Who hasn't heard of Sneijder? In the past year he's made an impression with Inter and on the World Cup as one of the most influential players in those teams. People just don't watch the Premier League.
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I could name about 40 odd people off the top of my head. Some in this country some abroad. We know him because we are football fans and take an interest in the sport. There are millions of people worldwide who have a fraction of our interest, yet still know players like Beckham, Rooney, C. Ronaldo etc.

One of the main reasons Rooney is a much bigger name is the fact that he plays up front for United, arguably the most popular club on the planet. I'm sure there are millions of kids running around Thailand, Japan, Korea and California acting like my three year old daughter, when she puts the ball in her little goal, exclaiming that she is "Rooney". Haven't ever heard her claim she is Sneijder?
 
Raulduke said:
If the reports about Inters finances are true it would probably take much more than selling Eto'o to fix things though. Apparently their wage bill is something like 105% of turnover.
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Then it's Inter who try to get as much money as possible from him.
I really don't think Sneijder' wage demands are the problem.
 
Going on what was discussed by the journos in teh Sunday Supplement they seem to think that:

-Sneijder isn't willing to drop his wages enough to interest us.
-Inter want to sell
-Fergie's pissed off at Sneijder's behaviour in all of this
-All of the current stories are coming from Sneijder's people whereas earlier in the summer we were doing the running.

Make of that what you will.
 
StanleyCupboard said:
A month ago I would've killed a bag of kittens to get Sneijder.

After seeing the progress of Anderson and Cleverley... feck Sneijder. Waste of money. I want to see our young guns grow into the force they can be.
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Everyone seems to be hysterically deluded because Anderson and Cleverley have been promising in the first few games.


If we go in to the season with just these options in Centre Midfield, it WILL cost us - especially in the CL.
 
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