IMO with Tom and other players we have more than enough to win the league. We don't have enough to compete for the CL.
if that's Fergie's choice then so be it.
Wesley Sneijder
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IMO with Tom and other players we have more than enough to win the league. We don't have enough to compete for the CL.
if that's Fergie's choice then so be it.
Yeah, that's the likeliest scenario, though hopefully (maybe) SAF will give the likes of Pogba Morrison and Tunnicliffe (sp?) an appearance or 2 in the Carling Cup.
I also think that a couple of them might first be sent out on loan. It's done wonders for the likes of Welbeck and Cleverley, though the path to our first team squad for central midfielders aren't as blocked as it is for young strikers/wingers with Scholes' retirement, Hargreaves' release and Gibson's likely departure.
Well you know how modern transfers work. All done through agents and intermediaries. Usually when an official bid is made, all terms and fees are actually pretty well agreed.
Why is this open again?.Deal is dead.If there ever was one
only 2 weeks left, there is no chance we sign him plus inter are defiant he will not be sold, whats there to talk about to insist he will still come?
I've hardly seem him play at all to be honest. My opinion is based on what the regular reserve watchers say, the fact he didn't go on tour, that he's still not played a competitive game for us, he hasn't been a regular even on the bench and that in recent years Fergie has liked his young players to get some loan experience first.
I think it's wishful thinking on your part. He might make the bench for some CC games but I reckon that will be it.
In 2 weeks time it will all be over anyway. Either we will have signed him by then or not. For the time remaining we can just as well leave the thread open.
I agree, but it can also be easier having better players around you than it is playin for a shit team. Wigan played the same teams we played against last season, and he got good reviews. There's the myth that every game for United is a cup game - that really only equates to away games, our home record is kick-ass.
Cleverly was a stand-out player for a struggling team - his potential has been talked about for many years & he's starting to fulfil it, he just needs the games & at 22 he most certainly does need them to push on. Also, Tom hasnt exactly looked outta place in any of our pre-seasons (3), and the two games against City & West Brom now has he?
I'd love to see Sneijder here, but i'm trying to remain positive if we dont sign him. I reckon Sneijder could really help Toms development now that Scholesy isnt amongst the squad. This saga is a rollercoaster thats for sure
I am going to go out on a limb and deduce that Inter allowed "us" to talk to the player based on a agreed transfer fee, but that the player's wage demands were too high. Its really the only explanation that makes sense given the massive media up-swell surrounding the story. Granted much of the media stuff is BS spouted by one paper, that was subsequently picked up and published as new information by a slew of others. But given that Sneijder himself has been rather cryptic, occasionally divulging a bit more than he may have intended, its likely that this scenario is indeed what happened. Time will tell.
I agree, but i dont see anything wrong with blooding him. The Reserve league is wee-buns, its full of kids or players who cant get first-team action & many have a chip on their shoulder about it - hacking young lads left-right & centre...
He's got the balls to play against Prem players, that lads full of confidence & has the skill to back it up...
Oh & cheers for the heads-up on Mr Mujac!
I agree, but it can also be easier having better players around you than it is playin for a shit team. Wigan played the same teams we played against last season, and he got good reviews. There's the myth that every game for United is a cup game - that really only equates to away games, our home record is kick-ass.
Cleverly was a stand-out player for a struggling team - his potential has been talked about for many years & he's starting to fulfil it, he just needs the games & at 22 he most certainly does need them to push on. Also, Tom hasnt exactly looked outta place in any of our pre-seasons (3), and the two games against City & West Brom now has he?
I'd love to see Sneijder here, but i'm trying to remain positive if we dont sign him. I reckon Sneijder could really help Toms development now that Scholesy isnt amongst the squad. This saga is a rollercoaster thats for sure
That's the point. It's much easier to stand out when the rest of your team mates aren't as classy of players as you are. It doesn't matter if you're a first team player elsewhere, you could just be a sub for United, or not even make it to the bench. Gibson, whose abilities we underestimate, is already considered to have superb qualities elsewhere. Foster to us was shite, he's quality for West Brom. Wes Brown, Sheasy...
Cleverley isn't a certified "world class" player and a recognized name around the world like Sneijder is, and to have a midfield general who everyone knows is capable of doing the job properly (as Wesley demonstrated for both club and country) is pretty much security and gives the team a whole lot of confidence. Cleverley also has no exposure to European football.
Sneijder's face is all over the United website, surely that's got to account for something?
If this was the case, and I hope so, and media reports are believed, Sneijder's will to reduce his wage demands could be a big step forward I assume.
Yep - cant disagree with that!
Whats disappointing is that Fergie was so
This is over now. I have no hopes. Everyone possible has come out and denied it.
Except Sneijder himself, or his agent. He actually said inofficial talks took place.
Its not going to happen... Morratti's statement to me looks like posturing.... now that any possible deal is dead he comes out and says Sneijder was never going to be sold...
How come he didn't say that 6 weeks ago?
How come he didn't say that 6 weeks ago?
the newbies just broke 20k on the sneijder thread. Incredible.
Sneijder is every muppet's dream this season.
I'm not sure who is worse, the pro-sneijder muppets or the doomladen "Its game over maaaaaan" brigade.
Standing out in a game can mean different things - that one player was less shit than the rest of his team-mates, therefore stood-out.. or he was equal to or better than the best players in the opposition team. I'm going with the latter!
I'm so on for this transfer but i'm also quite positive Tom can transform into a first-team player sooner rather than later, he's already showing great signs that he has no fears.
Look man, all i'm sayin is to prepare yourself that we may not buy anyone & that we have to make do with what we have.. If Fergie is gonna be stubborn here then many of us will be sick as fecking parrots!
You make it seem like I don't like Cleverley. Quite the contrary. All I'm saying is that, despite the potential and the recent improvements he's been showing lately, it's still a far cry. We need an established figure.This shites gonna keep floating until the door shuts on the final day of the transfer window, wouldnt surprise me if there was another couple of twists along the way.
The joys of the transfer window
The joys of the transfer window
Are they not fighting in the same corner tho?!
Personally, i still reckon we need two mid-fielders for cover & extra options. One of them has to be Sneijder, the other with a bit of muscle & good engine. feck knows if we're actually gonna sign anyone tho, so gettin your head around that is the best thing you can do, because there'll be enough doom & gloom in the papers / pundits regarding this if we lose a game, by us lacking in mid-field!
Barca have strengthened even further this year, so what exactly is our plan to accept the challenge of Barca, because its very hard to see them bricking it atm. Thats not doom & gloom either - its how i'd feel if i was a Barca player lookin around the changing room at the players they have & in walks Fabregas & Sanchez to sit at their new lockers!
I'm not suggesting anything of the sort, of course you like Cleverly - what United fan wouldnt?!
No-one's denying that we need an established figure but what happens if we dont get one - there'll be mass suicides on here?!
Its best just to pretend that Toms gonna be that player to play Sneijders role this season, and if we do somehow sign Sneijder - we can use Wesley as an impact sub!
lets see who bites..
Why would you believe any of the media reports? They have been consistently shown to be at best misguided and at worst a complete fabrication.
I don't believe anything in the papers anymore, on any subject, whatsoever...
This is my 100th post in this thread, I find that frankly unbelievable...
One could be tempted into thinking that this (belief that this is a big step forward) is Sneijders intention by disclosing this fact.
Why can't I see the newbies again?...All my infractions have run their corse and I'm still in the Wiki Committee...
fecking fascists. Strip me of all my benefits and then you wonder why I act up?...It's just like the london riots I tells ya.
Too right, lets go nick a telly.
Because the whole Eto'o to Anzhi thing hadn't reared its head, I'd assume. I genuinely think this was on until the Russians decided to offer an obscene amount for Eto'o. Moratti has admitted he's selling Eto'o for FFP reasons, which means he did need to sell someone to improve their financial position, if it hadn't been Eto'o, it's likely they would've been under pressure to do deal for Sneijder.
He'll be a United player by August 31st imo.
Moratti and that dumb ass CEO keep changing their tune every week.
Moratti and that dumb ass CEO keep changing their tune every week.
I dont think it was ever ON.
Inter needed the money and tried to attract interest for him, noone was willing to pay that kind of money and now it looks like he will end up staying at Inter, who will try and make some money selling Eto'o
Inter needed the money and tried to attract interest for him, noone was willing to pay that kind of money and now it looks like he will end up staying at Inter, who will try and make some money selling Eto'o
Sounds about right.
They are probably opposite sides of the same coin.
I think we could do with a midfielder of the quality of Sneider/Modric/whoever but the "on the verge of tears" quality that some posters bring to this thread is a little odd.
i still think we'll sign him
Two things seem clear - Inter want to sell (despite the recent statement) and we are interested
Inter are very likely to sell as they are in trouble financially (in terms of FFP) from what I've read
the sticking point is money and i can see the clubs and the player coming to a compromise......
if we dont sign him it will be because Fergie targets someone else or else thinks Pogba is ready - i dont want to sign Sneijder if it means getting ripped off
either way Fergie will do the right thing
Two things seem clear - Inter want to sell (despite the recent statement) and we are interested
Inter are very likely to sell as they are in trouble financially (in terms of FFP) from what I've read
the sticking point is money and i can see the clubs and the player coming to a compromise......
if we dont sign him it will be because Fergie targets someone else or else thinks Pogba is ready - i dont want to sign Sneijder if it means getting ripped off
either way Fergie will do the right thing
Its not my money, so i dont give a feck how much it costs to bring in quality & i can ironically handle Liverpool fans ribbing me that we were robbed spending £35m on Sneijder..
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