I remember seeing the article but let's be honest about it it's bollocks isn't it, it's like when they said Beckham wouldn't sign for Real because he was sponsored by Nike and Real were sponsored by adidas. It's scraping the barrel time when you start writing about shit like that. IMO.
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I remember seeing the article but let's be honest about it it's bollocks isn't it, it's like when they said Beckham wouldn't sign for Real because he was sponsored by Nike and Real were sponsored by adidas. It's scraping the barrel time when you start writing about shit like that. IMO.
Thing is the club will never officially say anything like this. It is quite possible that they leaked some of this off the record to send a message to Sniejder's reps.
The article is not beyond the realms of possibility at all even if it does probably have a bit of "journalistic license".
In my opinion, that is just you clutching at straws. Just as many people seem to be doing in order to keep this one running.
Which of City's player are you referring to? Because most of them get game time, so this probably isn't the case, but something dreamt up on here.
They could argue the same for the likes of Phil Jones, Chris Smalling, Ronaldo etc. We also brought in Hernandez dispite being stacked for strikers.
I agree, but I don't see the relevance of this.
I can see the difference, but I'm playing devils advocate here. I'm just showing that there are two sides to each argument, so it was daft of Marchi trying to say that players are mercenaries for signing for City, whilst saying Sneijder is different. The overall point is to emphasise how much we are twisting things in order to suit us.
You never know with these big deals. Its all business for Nike. I mean we are their biggest clients I guess. And we are trying to sign a world class player and he might be the biggest signing since Nike took over as our shirt sponsor.
Maybe they are looking at the revenue they might earn worldwide due to shirt sales. This is our point of view. You maybe right about scrapping the barrel and this is all very well be bollocks.
Yep you are absolutely right. Bringing in Smalling and Jones is same as bringing in Dzeko, Aguero, Silva and Toure all in the span of two summers.
Plus we had Rooney, Berbatov, Owen and Macheda. Welbeck and Diouf were bound to go on loan because Fergie said so. Owen is injury prone and you can't really expect a 18-year old to lead us if the likes of Rooney or Berbatov were to become injured. Fergie always like to have an extra striker.
It's just poker.
Loads of time left folks.
So what - he said he'd like to come to United but is happy to stay at Inter on a whopping wage. Hardly desperate.
Inter are willing to sell at the right price although the Samuel Eto transfer might change their view on finances.
Reading between the lines - United are more interested if they come out and pour cold water on it. If they weren't interested why bother commenting.
I honestly thought this one (despite being a biggie) would be done a few weeks ago but I now think it's going to be another of those late night tranfer deadline jobs.
Loads of time left folks.
So what - he said he'd like to come to United but is happy to stay at Inter on a whopping wage. Hardly desperate.
Inter are willing to sell at the right price although the Samuel Eto transfer might change their view on finances.
Reading between the lines - United are more interested if they come out and pour cold water on it. If they weren't interested why bother commenting.
I honestly thought this one (despite being a biggie) would be done a few weeks ago but I now think it's going to be another of those late night tranfer deadline jobs.
Back to believing we were never interested.
Johson - 1542
Toure - 2966
Silva - 2551
Milner - 2134 - 1000 minutes less than what he played the season before.
Barry - 2702
Phillips - 205
De Jong - 2610
Balotelli - 1905
Given - 0
I think Johnson, Given and Phillips would beg to differ. Viera needs to be added to this list.
In my opinion, I don't really think selling Eto'o is going to matter. They need this £30m. They have been running on losses for far too long if what the papers say are true. Their wage bill is too high. Their average age is high too. They do have a good academy though. They need to dip that sooner rather than later.
I can't fecking believe this is 267 pages long... 
What a bunch of weirdos
Sorry, no offence meant, i just find it hilarious
BIG thank you to whoever has kept the thread title changing, it has spared me from getting in here... until today
What a bunch of weirdos
Sorry, no offence meant, i just find it hilarious
BIG thank you to whoever has kept the thread title changing, it has spared me from getting in here... until today
I agree that the Eto transfer might not change Inter's own view on selling Sneijder but I feel United are punching above their 'normal' weight here and any big money coming into Inter will weaken our stance.
Except that Beckham has been with Adidas for longer then I can remember. Certainly long before he left United.
Right then, let's move on shall we?
Apart from Tevez and Toure, none of those players were at a big club winning trophies or playing regularly. City effectively said name your price. Be fecked if Toure is worth anywhere near his reported income but thats what City will pay, so yes it is that simple. City do not care like we do about player salaries. They'll pay what ever so there seldom little negotiating.
Nobody has been saying personal negotiations have been going on for weeks. If the reports are to be believe it's only in the last two days that Sneijders officials have been given permission to openly discuss contracts with United. This one isn't as simple as opening the checkbook and saying how much. It's a delicate process especially considering that Sneijder is already on a massive pay packet and at one of Europes better clubs. We're not signing him from the likes of Valencia, Athletico, Udinese or Ajax.
Sad but true.
I really don't think this is playing games anymore. I don't think he wants to come enough. That'll be enough for Fergie to wash his hands of it.
This sort of bullshit is going to go on for a while but I still think we'll be getting him despite these reports.
The Independent :
They're basing a part of their story on those quotes?
And
This makes sense. We've absolutely never had a late, end of transfer window transfer saga before
The Independent :
They're basing a part of their story on those quotes?
And
This makes sense. We've absolutely never had a late, end of transfer window transfer saga before
If Inter sell Eto to the Russians at a ridiculously inflated price, it would allow them to keep Sneijder. He probably prefers staying at Inter as he's said on numerous occasions and it would allow them to buy a decent striker to remain in Serie-A contention. If they lose both Eto and Sneijder, they may not make the CL next year.
For me this is key. Fans always say why do you care about how much money United spend on players its not your cash but the money element does say something about the commitment of a player.
Take Berbatov (much maligned even by myself at times) as an example. He could've made more money at City but he wanted to come to United. Here's a guy saying I want to play for you more than I want money.
If these stories are to be believed for Sneijder the lure isn't playing for United. Regardless of how much he feels Inter are regressing he'd rather pick up his paycheck than take what to him amounts as a minor paycut (is he going to starve on well in excess of £100,000 a week pre bonuses and add ons?!)
It makes you wonder when the chips are down and we need to see a famous Man Utd comeback is Sneijder going to be the man to lead it or is he gonna say to hell with this I'm getting paid anyway and bugger it I've already won the Treble at Inter?
This emphasis on money makes me question his drive. Nobody could doubt Sneijder's talent and versatility but what about when we're 2-0 down at Villa Park or 2-0 down at Blackpool or 2-0 down at Wembley against City? Is he gonna be the man who leads the fightback or the man who throws his hands up in the air blames his teammates and contents himself with his fat paycheck?
For me questions exist over Sneijder's desire and if he has chosen to stay at Inter for the extra however much it is after-tax a week then I think it just goes to show not singing him is probably the best thing for all parties.
Very unlikely United would give this sort of information to the press. I call it BS.
However, I'm of the opinion this transfer is financially too prohibitive if we believe the figures given by the press to be true for a player who is already 27, and could take a lot of games to get used to his new team mates, the league and a new country.
Inter need to lower the price to around 25 Million, and Sneijder needs lower his wage demands on par with Rooney to make any sense. Then you ask why would he take a pay cut if he's comfortable in Milan?
You need either the buying or selling club, or more importantly the player to be desperate for a move to make negotiations smooth. I'm not sure Milan, Sneijder or United are too desperate for this transfer to happen. Hence the negotiations taking time, or come to a stop.
However, I'm of the opinion this transfer is financially too prohibitive if we believe the figures given by the press to be true for a player who is already 27, and could take a lot of games to get used to his new team mates, the league and a new country.
Inter need to lower the price to around 25 Million, and Sneijder needs lower his wage demands on par with Rooney to make any sense. Then you ask why would he take a pay cut if he's comfortable in Milan?
You need either the buying or selling club, or more importantly the player to be desperate for a move to make negotiations smooth. I'm not sure Milan, Sneijder or United are too desperate for this transfer to happen. Hence the negotiations taking time, or come to a stop.
Anyway I've really not seen much of Sneijder. Is he really that good?
He was hardly on the radar as a World class player until his great treble winning season, and the World cup. What's he achieved prior or after that great season?
He was hardly on the radar as a World class player until his great treble winning season, and the World cup. What's he achieved prior or after that great season?
My first thoughts as well. Probably a very optimistic suggestion but this could still be part of putting pressure on the player and the selling club to lower their demands.
We have either given up due to his salary demands and/or we are challenging him to reduce his salary demands if he wants to play for us. IMO of course.
A last minute deal is still possible but so is him staying at Inter. There was talk of Inter giving him a golden handshake to go because they are in financial dire straits and really want him and Eto off their hands. I guess we will see. I can't say that I am very stressed either way TBH.
I think Modric is a no go given that Tottenham want to keep him and he wants to stay in London and City procing us out of the Nasri deal. So is there anyone else that we have been ignoring? I have no idea.
A last minute deal is still possible but so is him staying at Inter. There was talk of Inter giving him a golden handshake to go because they are in financial dire straits and really want him and Eto off their hands. I guess we will see. I can't say that I am very stressed either way TBH.
I think Modric is a no go given that Tottenham want to keep him and he wants to stay in London and City procing us out of the Nasri deal. So is there anyone else that we have been ignoring? I have no idea.
Turn Wilshere's head with an offer on par with Rooney.
Makes much more sense in my mind.
Makes much more sense in my mind.
If arsenal wouldn't sell us Nasri, what makes you think they would sell us Wilshere?
It's my inner muppet talking buddy. Don't take it too seriously.
What makes you think he was serious?
Mario Gotze and Christian Eriksen.
SWP is available.
Use the umlaut dammit. Its important.
Geez sorry. Mario Götze. There you go.
I don't believe neither those papers nor those ITKs on twitter. Until something official is reavealed nobody knows what's going on.
Lets see how the press conference from Fergie goes today. I bet there will at least be one question on Sneidjer.
Does he not play on the wing?
He will deny any contact...at the moment
I doubt very much that Fergie will do anything different then he has been towards Sneijder. Either deny we've had contact or say that they've looked at him but they've looked at a few others aswell. The massive media speculation says otherwise however.
If the deal is really dead then he'll say "we've never been interested, it's just the papers," if it isn't, he'll say what marchi-91 posted.
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