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Wasn't my photoshop work. Won't be surprised if it's Olly's work though!
 
Godfather said:
Nothing we can do about it anyway.

Never understood all this talk about the transfer fee regarding Berbatov or any other player neither. A player should never be measured by his transfer fee imo.
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Maybe not, but if a player is given a value by the fee paid for him, then surely it is only reasonable to expect at least some people to judge their performances in relation to the fee as justification for it.

Tbh though it really is in the player's own hands, if he does well, no-one will mention the fee, or when they do it will be to say the fee was merited. Only in the case of those who don't perform as expected, do we hear about the fee.

As an example nobody ever seems to brings up Ronaldo's fee, despite it being astronomical compared to Berba's.
 
CassiusClaymore said:
Veron mk II (?)
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Hope not, but i'm not so sure. All of a sudden we don't seem to need him as much, and i just cannot for the life of me see how he is going to fit into our team.

Don't get me wrong he is a great player, but so was Berba. I'm starting to hope this transfer does not go through. For me we need someone instead of Carrick, he is too pedestrian for me. We are slow and predictable when he plays, especially after watching the fluidity, mobility and imagination of our 2 youngsters yesterday and against Barca in pre season.
 
Godfather said:
What's not to understand there? Why in hell would you only want him here for a reasonable price? As long as we can afford it I don't give 2 shits about the transfer fee.
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My sentiments exactly. People should let Gill and co worry about the finances and concentrate on how a world class player like Sneijder will improve our team.
 
I do like this "Veron mk II" business... Veron's performances for us then would have been enough to pretty much make him our first choice central midfielder at the moment, it's only because we had Keane and Scholes that he looked so out of place.
 
Dion said:
I do like this "Veron mk II" business... Veron's performances for us then would have been enough to pretty much make him our first choice central midfielder at the moment, it's only because we had Keane and Scholes that he looked so out of place.
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I like the way you put a positive spin on my negatively framed half question.

You my friend, are a glass is half full kind of guy.
 
Dion said:
I do like this "Veron mk II" business... Veron's performances for us then would have been enough to pretty much make him our first choice central midfielder at the moment, it's only because we had Keane and Scholes that he looked so out of place.
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The problem with Veron was he was bought to play as an attacking midfielder when in reality he was always a deep lying playmaker.
Fergie is far more cultured with his tactics these days and I reckon he'd be an absolutely perfect fit for our current team.
 
Garethw said:
The problem with Veron was he was bought to play as an attacking midfielder when in reality he was always a deep lying playmaker.
Fergie is far more cultured with his tactics these days and I reckon he'd be an absolutely perfect fit for our current team.
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The problem with Veron was that you don't bring in a quality playmaker when you've got someone whose better then him in the team. Its basically like buying De Gea when Schmeichel was in his prime.
 
apotheosis said:
Maybe not, but if a player is given a value by the fee paid for him, then surely it is only reasonable to expect at least some people to judge their performances in relation to the fee as justification for it.

Tbh though it really is in the player's own hands, if he does well, no-one will mention the fee, or when they do it will be to say the fee was merited. Only in the case of those who don't perform as expected, do we hear about the fee.

As an example nobody ever seems to brings up Ronaldo's fee, despite it being astronomical compared to Berba's.
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I see where you are coming from and I'm not against criticising a player because he's not living up to some people's expectations.

But imo you shouldnt measure a player only by his fee or, even worse, only be happy about a player's arriving when he's not costing too much.

Sneijder, when he arrives, will have a damn hard job anyway as the expectations will be sky high and judging him in advance just because of his fee won't help at all.
 
Veron was a failure, so let's stop trying to re-write history. He was a gifted player, yes, but if ever there was an example of a player not being cut out for the Premiership, it was him. This would still be the case now as the Premiership has improved a lot and we still play a 2 man midfield whilst other teams play 3. He wouldn't cope I don't think.

Let's not forget, he signed for Chelsea and failed there too. So there's no excuse that he was in the shadow of Keane or Scholes.
 
devilish said:
The problem with Veron was that you don't bring in a quality playmaker when you've got someone whose better then him in the team. Its basically like buying De Gea when Schmeichel was in his prime.
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Agreed.
 
Verón was simply off the pace, he could never get to grips with the tempo here. No wonder he usually reserved his best performances for the Champions League, that suited him a lot better.

Sneijder is a different kind of animal.
 
Godfather said:
I see where you are coming from and I'm not against criticising a player because he's not living up to some people's expectations.

But imo you shouldnt measure a player only by his fee or, even worse, only be happy about a player's arriving when he's not costing too much.

Sneijder, when he arrives, will have a damn hard job anyway as the expectations will be sky high and judging him in advance just because of his fee won't help at all.
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Yes i agree it's not helpful at all and only serves to increase the pressure, however it is probably inevitable, and as i said previously the player himself is the only one who can alleviate the scrutiny by producing consistent performances.
 
This is enough to drive a sane man mad. Roll on September 1st, so I can either be a fecking happy bunny or just a happy bunny that knows what's happening.
 
So a young promising kid has a good game in CM in a glorified friendly against a half arsed Man City, and all of a sudden we don't need someone like Sneijder? As good as our young boys played, the big competitions havent even started yet. Cleverly will be drawn in slowly and Anderson has yet to show serious consistency.
 
Garethw said:
The problem with Veron was he was bought to play as an attacking midfielder when in reality he was always a deep lying playmaker.
Fergie is far more cultured with his tactics these days and I reckon he'd be an absolutely perfect fit for our current team.
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devilish said:
The problem with Veron was that you don't bring in a quality playmaker when you've got someone whose better then him in the team. Its basically like buying De Gea when Schmeichel was in his prime.
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pocco said:
Veron was a failure, so let's stop trying to re-write history. He was a gifted player, yes, but if ever there was an example of a player not being cut out for the Premiership, it was him. This would still be the case now as the Premiership has improved a lot and we still play a 2 man midfield whilst other teams play 3. He wouldn't cope I don't think.
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The problem with Veron was that he had only proven himself in Italy. I don't know how his performances were for Argentina back when we signed him. He made the move from Argentina to Italy and had not played anywhere big.

That is not the case for Sneidjer. He has played in both Spain and Italy and done really good. He has also proved himself playing for his national team.
 
The irony is Veron is exactly the kind of player we need right now. He'd be immense in our current side.
 
Can someone create a poll "Which Transfer saga is boring you the most"

A) Fabregas to Barcelona
B) Sneijder to Manchester United
C) Modric to Chelsea
 
stubie1234 said:
Can someone create a poll "Which Transfer saga is boring you the most"

A) Fabregas to Barcelona
B) Sneijder to Manchester United
C) Modric to Chelsea
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I would still pick the Fabregas to Barcelona because it has been going on for two summers now and it may well go on for another one. Sneidjer saga has only been going on for two months.
 
RDCR07 said:
I would still pick the Fabregas to Barcelona because it has been going on for two summers now and it may well go on for another one. Sneidjer saga has only been going on for two months.
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In all honestly the Fabregas & Sneijder saga have been as bad as each other this summer.
 
Sneijder has been worse this Summer but overall nothing beats the boredom of Fabregas saga which will probably go for two more years before Barcelona sign him at something silly like £12m.
 
Fabregas to Barca has been some years in the making now. I'm just ready to stop hearing about him. He's really not worth all of the fuss considering Barca's squad.
 
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