Wesley Sneijder
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you mentioned erikssen - i have the feeling that we are monitoring him too.
It's all about getting the combination right. If we signed another youngster, wouldn't that block Cleverley or Morrison? Would the player we sign (Eriksen) get the sort of time on the pitch he needs in order to improve? We won't be able to offer all of them enough football.
End of the day, it's all about getting the mix right - youngsters and seasoned pros, to try and see progress in the team while remaining highly successful. I think that in terms of midfield we may have enough talent that could see us nicely settled for quite a few years (thinking forward about Pogba and co). What we may need in order to be top of the pile for the next couple of years may be a more experienced player.
I have very little doubt about this squad. There's tremendous talent everywhere, but the midfield remains a huge question mark because very little has changed from last season, when it was not nearly good enough. If we sign no one and it fails us again, it would be a travesty, because we just didn't do enough to fix it.
I've gone on record in this giant spastic of a thread that I wouldn't want him here and that his transfer makes little sense in terms of getting value for money and fitting into the side(he's an out and out 10 when what we need is a box to box CM), Anderson's performance today and Cleverley confirming the opinion of many followers of his aswell as SAF and Martinez that he's ready to be introduced to the United side on a regular basis just reinforces my view on the Sneijder nonsense.
The hype over this guy really does bewilder me, he earns £6m per year net, would cost a king's ransom transfer fee, and is far from certain to adapt and perform as he has for Inter in the CM role, the same role in which he predominantly played for Real and flattered to deceive in.
If we can find the right midfielder for the right sort of money, then by all means I'd expect SAF to bring him in, but Sneijder is not the answer and certainly not at the premium he'd come with, I'd rather put our faith in Anderson and Cleverley, especially after the promise they showed today than squander at least 2 years worth of transfer budget on Sneijder, the epitome of a luxury player if ever there was one.
The hype over this guy really does bewilder me, he earns £6m per year net, would cost a king's ransom transfer fee, and is far from certain to adapt and perform as he has for Inter in the CM role, the same role in which he predominantly played for Real and flattered to deceive in.
If we can find the right midfielder for the right sort of money, then by all means I'd expect SAF to bring him in, but Sneijder is not the answer and certainly not at the premium he'd come with, I'd rather put our faith in Anderson and Cleverley, especially after the promise they showed today than squander at least 2 years worth of transfer budget on Sneijder, the epitome of a luxury player if ever there was one.
Here you go. They were supposed to miss the CS.
Hernandez, Carrick & Rafael all miss Community Shield - Football news | MSN Sport UK
What channel? Nothing on Sky
It wasnt shown on sky sports, i seen it on the itv highlights show. Where he gave a better interview in the tunnel
Is it safe to say now that, less people on the Caf actually want Sneijder at United?
I still want him, he is a fantastic player at the peak of his powers and would add more quality to midfield. Cleverley had a great game and will hopefully have a terrific career at United, but if we have the chance to sign Sneijder and he's willing to take a pay-cut then I'd love him at United.
No, as promising as Cleverley is, Sneijder would, in my opinion bring us to another level, in terms of usurping Barcelona anyway.
Most of us want him, some are just trying to convince themselves otherwise so losing out on him won't be as painful... at least that's my theory.
And so do i, we still need someone to replace Scholes.
Good post, completely agree - nothing better than seeing our youth coming through.
With or without Sneijder, we aren't going to usurp Barcelona anytime soon. Nobody is, but that's not to say they can't be beaten on any given night as Inter and Arsenal have shown over recent times.
Besides, to have a better chance against Barca, we need someone who can get about their midfield in the same way they collectively swarm their opponents, that is what we lack , not another ball-player in the luxury mode like Sneijder.
I won't "feel any pain" believe me.
Sir Alex knows what he is doing. If it's time for Cleverley to step up, so be it.
Signing Sneijder will definately strengthen us though, anyone thinking otherwise is deluding themselves.
I might be wrong, but i think that wr8_utd agrees with both of you...however, it s better if you ask him, just to be sure
I think most United fans want to see something being done about the midfield. Sneijder just seems to be the only viable option, as we don't seem to have another likely target. I'm not even sure it's a playmaking midfielder we should be looking for, I can't see for certain what we need, but I do know we need something. I'll go with whatever style of player Fergie chooses, but staying with what we've got would be a mistake.
Can you imagine if SAF thought the same about Ince, Kanchelskis, and Hughes in 1995? We'd have missed out on Beckham, Butt, and Scholes himself in favour of the latest flavour of the month, muppet wet dream at the time. Say we bring in Sneijder, what does that do to Cleverley? Knowing that a 27 year old international has come in on £200,000 a week to play a role he has no doubt earmarked for himself and on today's evidence is well capable of performing himself?
I think Fergie decided a while ago that the Sneijder deal is more trouble than it's worth and the form Anderson and Cleverley showed today probably cast aside any lingering doubts he may have had in his mind.
we don't need another Veron alias Snider...Tom Cleverley was sublime today also Anderson.
If Cleverley has the talent (which he does) then SAF will play him regardless of reputation - just like he played Hernandez over Berba. Sneijder would bring a lot to the team and has proven it in the world-cup and CL that he is a great player. If SAF doesn't want Sneijder then fair enough but I don't see how getting him would be detrimental to the team, especially with Scholes gone and Giggs possibly in his final season.
It's not Cleverley but Giggs who should be the most worried about Sneijder's possible arrival. If he arrives. Which I don't think he will.
Not after all of this fuss. If he wanted to play for United, it would have happened by now.
So Inter need the money and Sneijder has spoken openly about a possible departure. I think this saga is coming to an end. Thread closed by next week.
Of course, but we'll have just spunked a fortune on a player when we've got one with the potential to provide exactly what we need from our own production line. Sneijder hasn't played CM for any sustained period for 3 years now, do we really want to go down the road of gambling inflated sums on him being influential as he is now when it requires a change of role, change of team, change of style of football etc, or do we acknowledge the potential of Anderson and Cleverley and trust them to mature and build on the promising form they showed today? I know which one is the United way and the way SAF has always favoured with great success down the years, so I don't see him deviating from that, at least when it comes to such an expensive ,questionable purchase like Sneijder.
The answers to our midfield issues are definately within the club already, I find it sad that people are so reluctant to see them given that opportunity to solve that problem area. We might have to go a season or two without the PL or CL like we did when we waited for Fletcher, Rooney, Ronaldo et al to develop into top players but that's what we did and it bore fruit in the end. The same will happen again although I think we've every chance of winning the league with the current squad while we await that progress.
Modric desperately wants to play for Chelsea, it hasn't happened yet, stop talking nonsense.
Someone mentioned on another forum and got me thinking. This could all be a big smokescreen of sorts for City. We may well not be interesed in him but the "interest" is being drummed up to make it seem a bigger coup.
I am bored of this saga now, I like it when players actually want to come to the club not because the clubs hand has been forced.
I am bored of this saga now, I like it when players actually want to come to the club not because the clubs hand has been forced.
Fair point. I have no problem giving the younger players a chance and I'm certain SAF will give them their opportunity. I still think that there are a lot of benefits to signing Sneijder and I'd be delighted if he signed, however, I don't think it would be the end of the world if he didn't come.
Don't forget we're gonna have to replace Giggs soon too.
We will need more options than what we have.
We will need more options than what we have.
I said most of us
I like Cleverley but depending on him is dangerous, he's still young but a good player I admit. Anderson is injury prone, so is Park (who some seem to think of as a midfielder), Fletcher has had injury problems and then the virus and Carrick has problem with consistency. Giggs is getting older and can't play all the games. Our midfield simply lacks in class and hopefully we'll sign Sneijder or someone class before the window closes. Inter were mental to give him such a big wage package though and that could very well ruin the whole thing.Agreed, we need somebody, as I said above our midfield lacks. We have players with potential and others who are good players but we need that world class midfielder, whoever that may be.
If he put it this way, I wont be surprised to see him at City.
We need a class act in midfield. Sneijder is the one!
Yeah I still would love to see him at the club, Cleverley was great today but I refuse to get carried away too much by it.
Sneijder is a ready made World Class player. He would improve our squad a hell of a lot.
Sneijder is a ready made World Class player. He would improve our squad a hell of a lot.
The concept that our midfield problems are solved through Anderson and Cleverley is a romantic one but one that is ulimately flawed when you consider the length of a season and the amount of games our team will play.
A starting 11 isn't going to win you trophies, a squad is. As good as those two were today, they won't / can't go straight from relative indifference to playing 50+ games. They need to be part of a stronger midfield setup and it doesn't look like Gibson or Carrick will be good enough this season. Cameos are fine and I like the fact we still have Fletcher and Giggs available, but they're not going to run the show the way Ando and Cleverley did the second half today.
I'm not sure Sneijder is "the one" but I do think we need someone else in midfield, someone more established who can take up a pivotal role and help Anderson and Cleverley grow into the future pairing, along with the next lot of kids coming through the ranks.
A starting 11 isn't going to win you trophies, a squad is. As good as those two were today, they won't / can't go straight from relative indifference to playing 50+ games. They need to be part of a stronger midfield setup and it doesn't look like Gibson or Carrick will be good enough this season. Cameos are fine and I like the fact we still have Fletcher and Giggs available, but they're not going to run the show the way Ando and Cleverley did the second half today.
I'm not sure Sneijder is "the one" but I do think we need someone else in midfield, someone more established who can take up a pivotal role and help Anderson and Cleverley grow into the future pairing, along with the next lot of kids coming through the ranks.
I've a slight feeling that Dimi might be involved in a deal if we try and get Sneijder... Inter after another striker, he has one year left and i dont think we're prepared to pay the full amount they want. And for Berba himself, Italy, imo is the best place suited for his game, reckon he'll thrive there.
Anderson has played 30+ appearances three times out of the four seasons he's been at United. He's not going from relative indifference. He's going from a young injury prone player, to potentially a world class CM. We won't know till the end of the season.
How can you say Carrick won't be good enough this season after an excellent pre season, and a good game today, where him and Anderson controlled a great first half display.
Would still like another central midfielder.
I saw the link earlier. Since there was no truth to the story a couple of days ago, I did not pay much attention to that link.
unless we think the likes of Morrison and Pogba can step up to the first team, we will need another midfielder.
I think we will get another midfielder for sure.
I think we will get another midfielder for sure.
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