Hopefully so! Well yeah, but if he's made them twice as bad as they usually are that's bloody impressive. And worrying.
I thought you'd have gotten that it was a pisstake? It was a wind-up started by GB and I just continued it on...
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Hopefully so! Well yeah, but if he's made them twice as bad as they usually are that's bloody impressive. And worrying.
I thought you'd have gotten that it was a pisstake? It was a wind-up started by GB and I just continued it on...
Oh I didn't know, fair enough.
I think at united he would be better protected, a solid back 4 and 3 other hard working midfielders around him would be a lot more stable than the madrids circus. This is all speculation though and I have my doubts whether we will get him unfortunately!
I think at united he would be better protected, a solid back 4 and 3 other hard working midfielders around him would be a lot more stable than the madrids circus. This is all speculation though and I have my doubts whether we will get him unfortunately!
Forget about him, I just watched him on NOS giving an interview and the reporter asked him about the rumors of our interest.
He said the interest is REAL, but he isn't interested in it himself. He said his heart is with Inter and next year he'll play for Inter. He spoke of how he would love to win the extra competitions they now get after winning the CL (Supercup, and world club championships).
He was quite clear on the subject. So the only chance to sign him is to make an offer Inter cannot refuse. Are we capable of doing that and would it be the smart thing to do (IMO NO, anything more than the rumored 29 million is too much for a player like him).
He said the interest is REAL, but he isn't interested in it himself. He said his heart is with Inter and next year he'll play for Inter. He spoke of how he would love to win the extra competitions they now get after winning the CL (Supercup, and world club championships).
He was quite clear on the subject. So the only chance to sign him is to make an offer Inter cannot refuse. Are we capable of doing that and would it be the smart thing to do (IMO NO, anything more than the rumored 29 million is too much for a player like him).
Next!
Ronaldo said the same thing before fecking off. Sneijder forgets how potent SAF is, once Sir Alex gets in that Bentley and puts a stocking over his head, with Scholes and Evra in the back, not many players can say no.
So, will this be our year's proof that we have money? "We bid £29m for Sneijder!"
Nope, not our proof. Just proof with the tin foil hat wearers .... oh the conspiracy ... I mean can you imagine, putting out bids just to "prove" we have money but, aren't really buying the player ... those evil gits.
Truth is if we get him we will still look stupid.
Sure he might want to stay with Inter but after a full pre-season with Rafa im sure he'll be dying to leave!
Why? Don't use that he was cheaper last season line.
Back to the Ozil thread then...
Back to the Ozil thread then...
I'm here for you mate.
We seem to find value in players when their prices go up.
I remember us refusing to go for Rooney till Newcastle put in a 25m pound bid and the like......
Im a broken man......
Hmmm...
First Villa, then Silva, now this. When we sign Hamsik all will be right. Trust me.
Theres only so much rejection a man can withstand......
Same with Diouf, we were going to wait til this season then Wenger started to sniff around.
It's ok, go flirt with Ozi for a few weeks, you'll feel better.
Could be the kiss of death.
C. Ronaldo too.
Vidic as well. The list goes on, but when we do get them, it's all good. All this thats happening at the moment is just the foreplay before we sign Hamsik.
We'll only look stupid because of the silly expectation that we should have know ahead of time so many different things would have happened:
Like Hargreaves not being available the whole, that Carrick and Anderson would not be what we expected of them, that Giggs would spend a majority of his time on the wing instead of the middle like expected and that Sneijder who had a so-so season previously and didn't look like he would provide much different to what we already had in a fairly stocked department was someone who would have a career season.
Last season people were clamoring to buy him because he was a bargain but, reality was at the time there wasn't a need for him and SAF believed in what we had.
People now are saying SAF doesn't change his mind simply because of performance of the WC. Which is probably mostly true but, a lot has changed in the year as to why he may be looking at Sneijder more this season.
1) He has seen Rooney become someone that can play the lone striker with great ability that a player like Sneijder now may be more suited to playing behind him.
2) Perhaps less faith in Anderson/Carrick
3) Hargreaves cannot be relied upon
4) Scholes probably playing even less this season than last
5) Sneijder becoming a better player than had shown previously.
The whole we should have bought him because he was a bargain back then is also borderline stupid. Should we maybe go ahead and just buy any player that seems a bargain in the hope they suddenly will rocket in value / ability?
Simply put - last season there wasn't a need to strengthen in midfield from SAFs perspective so he didn't. This season he seems to think that this one player will provide something the rest don't, so he's gone in for it (or so the reports say we have).
Like Hargreaves not being available the whole, that Carrick and Anderson would not be what we expected of them, that Giggs would spend a majority of his time on the wing instead of the middle like expected and that Sneijder who had a so-so season previously and didn't look like he would provide much different to what we already had in a fairly stocked department was someone who would have a career season.
Last season people were clamoring to buy him because he was a bargain but, reality was at the time there wasn't a need for him and SAF believed in what we had.
People now are saying SAF doesn't change his mind simply because of performance of the WC. Which is probably mostly true but, a lot has changed in the year as to why he may be looking at Sneijder more this season.
1) He has seen Rooney become someone that can play the lone striker with great ability that a player like Sneijder now may be more suited to playing behind him.
2) Perhaps less faith in Anderson/Carrick
3) Hargreaves cannot be relied upon
4) Scholes probably playing even less this season than last
5) Sneijder becoming a better player than had shown previously.
The whole we should have bought him because he was a bargain back then is also borderline stupid. Should we maybe go ahead and just buy any player that seems a bargain in the hope they suddenly will rocket in value / ability?
Simply put - last season there wasn't a need to strengthen in midfield from SAFs perspective so he didn't. This season he seems to think that this one player will provide something the rest don't, so he's gone in for it (or so the reports say we have).
As I've been saying for the last 2 days.
"I will stay. I will play next season with Inter.
"I have won everything [with the club] last season and I still have a lot more to win - the European Supercup, the Italian Supercup and the Cup Winners' Cup, all beautiful trophies."
The End
"I have won everything [with the club] last season and I still have a lot more to win - the European Supercup, the Italian Supercup and the Cup Winners' Cup, all beautiful trophies."
The End
"I stay"
Titanic's just sunk.
Source?
Good.. Serves our right!! Should have done a deal last year. Signing him would have just made us look stupid, however would have really wanted him.
Manchester United’s apparent bid for Wesley Sneijder, together with ongoing interest in Karim Benzema and Mario Ballotelli, is a better indicator of the squad’s current state than Sir Alex Ferguson’s public statements of happiness. Huge shortcommings in central midfield and attack were brutally exposed towards the tail-end of last season.
It’s a problem Ferguson at least recognises but whether the Scot is allowed to repair his ageing squad is another question altogether. The club’s £;20 million bid for World Cup superstar Sneijder hardly bore the hallmarks of authenticity, much akin to United’s late, undervalued, offer for Benzema last summer.
After all the market price for Sneijder has been set with City spending £27 million on Barcelona reserve Yaya Toure and even more on the brilliant Spaniard David Silva. Sneijder’s form is better than either, having won a treble with Inter Milan last season and guided Holland into the World Cup final.
Inter, quite rightly, stood firm and the player himself has indicated his preference to remain in Milan. Already on a wage superior to anybody at Old Trafford and winning trophies by the bucketload, why would Sneijder move? It’s a fact that United almost certainly already knew, having resisted the option to include the Dutch playmaker in Real Madrid’s deal for Cristiano Ronaldo last summer.
Indeed the bid for Sneijder now smacks of grandstanding from the club’s management, who have failed to sell out Old Trafford’s allocation of season tickets this summer, with executive seats again well down on last season too. No surprise then that Inter President Massimo Moratti described United’s interest as “an advertising campaign”.
Ballotelli, however, is available following a series of clashes with Jose Mourinho last season and a public expression of love for Inter’s crosstown rivals AC. Inter simply want to start an auction.
The talented Italian has plenty of critics in Milan, not least because the forward’s temperament is more that of a hormonal teenager than professional footballer. But with Manchester City sniffing around there’s little chance of United succeeding with a bid – if the interest is at all genuine. Take the speculation with a large pinch of salt.
While United supporters should drop any hope of signing Sneijder, Ballotelli, or indeed Benzema as Rant argued last week, Ferguson has at least revealed his hand. The World Cup has taught us nothing if not that ball retention, the playmaker and the 4-2-3-1 system are king at the highest level. Ferguson it seems has watched.
The club’s complete reliance on Rooney as the lone spearhead in the all but the games Ferguson is confident of winning handsomely was unmasked after the striker’s injury in March last season. Hope that Dimitar Berbatov will come good or that Javier Hernández can hit the ground running in England is no kind of strategy on which to base a season and Ferguson knows it.
The paucity of both goals and creativity from central midfield was perhaps an even greater problem though. Six of United’s losses last season came when Ferguson’s side failed to score. If the bus is parked, United’s strategy dries up with Paul Scholes playing deeper – and slower – than ever and Michael Carrick permanently out of form.
Anderson, Darren Fletcher and Owen Hargreaves will compete with Carrick for two deep central midfield slots next season, leaving Ferguson reliant on Darron Gibson to provide flair from midfield. Few believe the Ulsterman is the ‘world class’ option United requires.
But with Silva already off the market and Sneijder’s “heart in Milan,” Ferguson is left with few options even if he has the money.
It’s a problem Ferguson at least recognises but whether the Scot is allowed to repair his ageing squad is another question altogether. The club’s £;20 million bid for World Cup superstar Sneijder hardly bore the hallmarks of authenticity, much akin to United’s late, undervalued, offer for Benzema last summer.
After all the market price for Sneijder has been set with City spending £27 million on Barcelona reserve Yaya Toure and even more on the brilliant Spaniard David Silva. Sneijder’s form is better than either, having won a treble with Inter Milan last season and guided Holland into the World Cup final.
Inter, quite rightly, stood firm and the player himself has indicated his preference to remain in Milan. Already on a wage superior to anybody at Old Trafford and winning trophies by the bucketload, why would Sneijder move? It’s a fact that United almost certainly already knew, having resisted the option to include the Dutch playmaker in Real Madrid’s deal for Cristiano Ronaldo last summer.
Indeed the bid for Sneijder now smacks of grandstanding from the club’s management, who have failed to sell out Old Trafford’s allocation of season tickets this summer, with executive seats again well down on last season too. No surprise then that Inter President Massimo Moratti described United’s interest as “an advertising campaign”.
Ballotelli, however, is available following a series of clashes with Jose Mourinho last season and a public expression of love for Inter’s crosstown rivals AC. Inter simply want to start an auction.
The talented Italian has plenty of critics in Milan, not least because the forward’s temperament is more that of a hormonal teenager than professional footballer. But with Manchester City sniffing around there’s little chance of United succeeding with a bid – if the interest is at all genuine. Take the speculation with a large pinch of salt.
While United supporters should drop any hope of signing Sneijder, Ballotelli, or indeed Benzema as Rant argued last week, Ferguson has at least revealed his hand. The World Cup has taught us nothing if not that ball retention, the playmaker and the 4-2-3-1 system are king at the highest level. Ferguson it seems has watched.
The club’s complete reliance on Rooney as the lone spearhead in the all but the games Ferguson is confident of winning handsomely was unmasked after the striker’s injury in March last season. Hope that Dimitar Berbatov will come good or that Javier Hernández can hit the ground running in England is no kind of strategy on which to base a season and Ferguson knows it.
The paucity of both goals and creativity from central midfield was perhaps an even greater problem though. Six of United’s losses last season came when Ferguson’s side failed to score. If the bus is parked, United’s strategy dries up with Paul Scholes playing deeper – and slower – than ever and Michael Carrick permanently out of form.
Anderson, Darren Fletcher and Owen Hargreaves will compete with Carrick for two deep central midfield slots next season, leaving Ferguson reliant on Darron Gibson to provide flair from midfield. Few believe the Ulsterman is the ‘world class’ option United requires.
But with Silva already off the market and Sneijder’s “heart in Milan,” Ferguson is left with few options even if he has the money.
wtf.
Then who the feck did I see driving in Ancoats today, then?????????
Exactly! Also, this doesn't fecking explain why a one W.Sneijder was checked out of Whalley Range BUPA today who had to hurry for a flight to an unspecified country simply known as S.A. ??
We'll have to wait until Rafa makes "an impression" on him. Then he won't be able to wait to get out.
This means he'll sign for Manchester City.
This means he'll sign for Manchester City.
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