This right here is the whole Ole in vs Ole out argument in a nutshell. You have one side who sees he only has the job because of nepotism vs the other side who wants him to succeed because of nepotism
We are an awfully coached team
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This right here is the whole Ole in vs Ole out argument in a nutshell. You have one side who sees he only has the job because of nepotism vs the other side who wants him to succeed because of nepotism
But why? Why put the job and possible but improbable chance of a club legend (who is most likely not up to the job ) to win something,above the club's success itself?
I don't know how many of you follow Eric Laurie on Twitter, but he has shared some tactical insight within our plays also:
There is nobody in here defending that we are a well coached team surely. I am yet to see any form of playing style in the 3 years Ole has been in charge.
It is true. We dont have a playing style identitiy. City is possesion based with multiple midfielders and false 9...Liverpool pressing football with wing forwards..Chelsea mainly 3 4 3 fomatiion with attack and defend together..Ole has 4 2 3 1 formation and that is it
I love Ole but we have an inexperienced flight crew flying the United- Good Vibes -DC3, which is headed into a mountain in a blinding storm. Everyone is happy and smiling but we need someone at the yoke that knows how to correct our course and negotiate these hazards going forward. Keep Ole in charge of sunshine and lollipops and get some coaches who are up to United premiership and champs league standards.
It's more than coaching, I think ole's transfer business goes under the radar for genuine criticism and his squad management us and has been poor at the club.
Yep.
The same people saying only the UCL & EPL matter are the ones that when we fall flat in those tournaments say, ‘well we weren’t going to win it anyway’, ‘not got the best squad so what do you expect’, ‘ole needs another [insert position here]’.
When you’ve not proven you can win a trophy at this level there are no ‘minor’ trophies.
We’ve gone out in multiple tournaments to teams of inferior quality & this place falls over itself to degrade the worthiness of winning when we do.
He should have won the EL in the previous 2 years, it’s malpractice that he did not.
Every single game. How long has this been evident? How many touches our attackers had ?
Another game week and yet another glaring example of our management/coaching structure being woefully inept when up against a side who are coached very well and whom play much stronger than the sum of their individual parts.
How much evidence do the ‘experts’ need that we are heading nowhere fast under the current management and how much can they enlighten us ‘plastics’ about the hidden genius Solskjaer supposedly possesses? Genuinely curious about both above.
How much evidence do the ‘experts’ need that we are heading nowhere fast under the current management and how much can they enlighten us ‘plastics’ about the hidden genius Solskjaer supposedly possesses? Genuinely curious about both above.
Was wondering how many minutes before this thread comes up.
For all the lack of "patterns of play" and relying on individual brilliance upfront I have to say our defense organisation is probably even worse. We cant cover people, track runners, intercept etc., so easy to reach our penalty box in seconds with a few passes.
For all the lack of "patterns of play" and relying on individual brilliance upfront I have to say our defense organisation is probably even worse. We cant cover people, track runners, intercept etc., so easy to reach our penalty box in seconds with a few passes.
Ole at the wheel and all that.
Same shit, different day. Been like this since the honeymoon period when he was appointed as caretaker. Never believed it would get better and it never will.
We basically play football with the same panache as how Ole talks.
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That's the big problem, our team looks poorly organized all over.
This.. but still hopeful we can win this match.
Nothing needs to be said about our performance. Another game where I am a bit stunned how good Leicester looks in possession. So courageous and comfortable on the ball...
Seems like we adjusted the tactical outlook a bit today - looks like Sancho is providing width while Shaw wanders into midfield to support Pog and Matic. Not a bad idea I'd say. Theoretically frees up Pogba a bit.
Seems like we adjusted the tactical outlook a bit today - looks like Sancho is providing width while Shaw wanders into midfield to support Pog and Matic. Not a bad idea I'd say. Theoretically frees up Pogba a bit.
I'm not saying Sancho won't prove to be a good signing, but spunking 80 million on him when we could've signed two midfielders was just a bad strategy.
The funny thing is Leicester aren't even that good.
The way we play has allowed them to feel comfortable and play their game which they haven't been able to do all season.
The way we play has allowed them to feel comfortable and play their game which they haven't been able to do all season.
Well, our existing midfielders are good enough, let's be honest.
Why don’t the fecking board and CEO save our season by sacking the bunch of clueless cowards and get in a manager and coaching team who know what they’re doing
No lies told.
Haha.
At least the previous 2 managers offered more off field entertainment. Now it's just shite throughout the week
Is it just me or is every game a normal transition to the final 3rd, and then a VERY slow pedestrian passage of passing before some sort of random cross?
And I see a lot more bunching of players in the same pockets (mainly on the left side). They just move about in each other's way and get confused as to who to play 1-2s with.
When we create or score it's because they are working it out in the instances on the fly, but it's clearly not sustainable in going forward. And it keeps us vulnerable on the counters.
And I see a lot more bunching of players in the same pockets (mainly on the left side). They just move about in each other's way and get confused as to who to play 1-2s with.
When we create or score it's because they are working it out in the instances on the fly, but it's clearly not sustainable in going forward. And it keeps us vulnerable on the counters.
I mean what do we work on during the week in training 
It has nothing to do with Sancho. Out coaching is just so bad. Every good player we touch can’t do the basics right.
Even if we brought in 2 new midfielders I promise you we will be playing this shit? There’s no way around it. Making it seem like any midfielder walks in and we play better is just fantasy.
No movement, no aggression, no continuous attack, lazy defending etc. It’s all down to the manager who is truthfully out of his dept. Yikes!
Getting outplayed by Leicester and it's clear their tactics are superior, but no doubt some people on here will try to convince you that Leicester have the better team and Ole has been doing a miracle to have us finishing ahead of them the past 2 seasons.
Nothing will happen. Our problem will be just another position. When we will realize it's not the players ?
The excuse this week would be that they players were out on international dutiesI mean what do we work on during the week in training
Our board doesn't care what happens on the pitch, only that we are in CL. There is not a single person above the manager who knows anything about football, Ed is useless.
Joel Glazer: “It took me 2 years to learn the offside rule in soccer and I still struggle with it.” November 2019
If I recall correctly Mourinho said something in the lines that there is not a single person to discuss transfer targets or anything football related with, it is all on the manager.
Our only decent appointment Javier Ribalta quit after one year of being chief scout to become sporting director of Zenith.
United DNA?
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The idea this is the best this team can perform under any coach is so preposterous and not even worth debate.
How frustrating is expecting this shit every week and still being left disappointed with how bad we are at playing football?
How frustrating is expecting this shit every week and still being left disappointed with how bad we are at playing football?
The work we are doing off the ball is quite non existent. As I type I'm actually watching Leicester knock it around half way up the pitch and we aren't moving an inch to close them down.
The game isn't even over and we have this thread popping up. It just shows you that our performance has been no matter the result. This type of games we would win and some supporters who are criticizing Ole not will turn a blind eye to our performance because we won the game.
I am glad people are starting to see what I have seen long ago.
I am glad people are starting to see what I have seen long ago.
We have spent an awful lot of money on transfer fees over the last half decade to still be this average.
This OP of this thread was Nov last year and it is still proven to be absolutely the case almost 12-months in. Shocking.
Doesn't matter who we buy for Ole and these coaches. He is our glass ceiling at present.
No tactics, no idea, no hope.
We’ve played some really bad football over the last 7-8 years but how were playing recently with the calibre of players Ole has at his disposal is a disgrace,
I absolutely hate watching United play right now, I’ll stick it out as that’s unfortunately how it is as a United fan right now but all I want to see is just some football basics being applied and even that isn’t on show, I see more team play from my local Scottish team who play in the 2nd devision than I do from a multi million pound assembled squad.
I absolutely hate watching United play right now, I’ll stick it out as that’s unfortunately how it is as a United fan right now but all I want to see is just some football basics being applied and even that isn’t on show, I see more team play from my local Scottish team who play in the 2nd devision than I do from a multi million pound assembled squad.
Get this joker out of my club
Pretty dire. Players don't look like they care anymore either.