We are an awfully coached team

If we manage to win this game it will be the equivalent of putting a plaster on a broken leg, I love Ole the person and loved Ole the player bit Ole the coach isn’t anywhere near good enough and isn’t going to get any better for us.
 
If we manage to win this game it will be the equivalent of putting a plaster on a broken leg, I love Ole the person and loved Ole the player bit Ole the coach isn’t anywhere near good enough and isn’t going to get any better for us.
So true,we all need to judge him on the job in hand as a manager and not the past,if this was a van gaal performance we would all be all over him,1 point out of 2 games is poor,if that's acceptable we have fallen a long way
 
Unlikely, I know, but it occurred to me that Ole would probably make a very good director of football, or head of football operations.

The attributes that role demands are the areas where he has been most impressive: signing players and staffing, throughout the club on the football side.

As a football manager, we’ve got to expect better than what we’re currently witnessing.
 
We need a win at home and we can barely string two passes together . Now watch him come out and use passion, history bla bla
 
Unlikely, I know, but it occurred to me that Ole would probably make a very good director of football, or head of football operations.

The attributes that role demands are the areas where he has been most impressive: signing players and staffing, throughout the club on the football side.

As a football manager, we’ve got to expect better than what we’re currently witnessing.
We all need a reality check this is man utd not just Amy old club that settles for not losing,if ole was sacked would.he get a job in the prem again,I would very much doubt it and that's the reality,the nice bloke mentality needs to be forgotten and get back to what he's paid to do and win games at the biggest club in the world
 
Unlikely, I know, but it occurred to me that Ole would probably make a very good director of football, or head of football operations.

The attributes that role demands are the areas where he has been most impressive: signing players and staffing, throughout the club on the football side.

As a football manager, we’ve got to expect better than what we’re currently witnessing.

Some people might disagree with you there on Carrick and McKenna.
 
Unlikely, I know, but it occurred to me that Ole would probably make a very good director of football, or head of football operations.

The attributes that role demands are the areas where he has been most impressive: signing players and staffing, throughout the club on the football side.

As a football manager, we’ve got to expect better than what we’re currently witnessing.

I’ve been saying that for a long time as Ole is great in bringing the right type of player and character into the club but simply isn’t anywhere near good enough as a coach let alone as head coach, I said well over a year ago that Ole as director of football and Pocchettino as head coach was my ideal scenario.
 
We won 2-1, we are very well coached what are you talking about, dominated from start to finish
 
Did anyone catch that coldness from Pogba to Ole?

Pogba knows.
 
We won 2-1, we are very well coached what are you talking about, dominated from start to finish

Not even his most ardent fans will say our performance was good tonight.

But, let's not kid ourselves, the 3pts are huge. Performances still have to improve, can't be coasting on these occasional brilliance or half chances falling our way.
 
I think we need to play 3 at the back...
Varane, Victor and Bailey
Telles Lingard
FredMctominay/Pogba
Ronaldo Bruno Sancho
 
Moments FC.

I am done and totally in Ole out mode now. This type of coaching and management is not getting us a trophy.
 
Some people might disagree with you there on Carrick and McKenna.

Yeah, I did consider that, but in general he’s made a lot of good decisions in those areas.

And by all accounts McKenna is a very good coach at youth levels. What’s baffling is why both McKenna and Carrick, two incredibly inexperienced coaches at the level they’re at, and given the evidence that we’ve seen, retain Ole’s trust.
 
Part of the reason it's not a good idea to overreact to losses like Villa is that it primes other people to shove it in your face when we then win games like this.

In reality losing to Villa wasn't the end of the world, nor is a win off today's performance a positive sign in terms of coaching. It's just that even with our very real problems we are still in net terms a pretty good team.
 
Sorry Ole, all faith in you has been lost over the last few weeks. You've assembled a brilliant panel bar one glaring weakness and the performances have been nothing like what we should be seeing. We got ripped apart by Villa at the weekend and ripped apart by Villareal today. Only for some awful finishing on their part we'd have been well beaten in both games.
 
Part of the reason it's not a good idea to overreact to losses like Villa is that it primes other people to shove it in your face when we then win games like this.

In reality losing to Villa wasn't the end of the world, nor is a win off today's performance a positive sign in terms of coaching. It's just that even with our very real problems we are still in net terms a pretty good team.
We played shite in both games, no one was overreacting to that dross on the weekend. Nice try though.
 
Just after the final whistle. Ole runs up behind Pogba, pat on the back, rub of the head, pat on the chest. Ole looking at him and Pogba just stared off into the distance with no acknowledgement to Ole at all
 
Ole master class. Happy for him and the team. Verry verry happpy.
 
Just after the final whistle. Ole runs up behind Pogba, pat on the back, rub of the head, pat on the chest. Ole looking at him and Pogba just stared off into the distance with no acknowledgement to Ole at all
Not sure if that is anything. Pogba might as well be looking at someone else. However I am sure even the players are understanding how poor we are.
 
Part of the reason it's not a good idea to overreact to losses like Villa is that it primes other people to shove it in your face when we then win games like this.

In reality losing to Villa wasn't the end of the world, nor is a win off today's performance a positive sign in terms of coaching. It's just that even with our very real problems we are still in net terms a pretty good team.

What are you on about? We were completely shite...our back line appalling...pressing non existent till the 75th minute...attacking clueless...full backs embarrassing...saw Pau Torres put his foot on the ball, in Old Fuking Trafford and stand there for 7 or 8 seconds while everyone fuking watched him! The crowd went bananas! The midfield made Villareals midfield look like a top top side- they aren’t and had they have had their first choice striker we would have been whipped.

Net terms? We were just as bad as any match this season. A last minute winner changes fuk all about us looking like the most disjointed and lucky team i have seen in years.
 
Just after the final whistle. Ole runs up behind Pogba, pat on the back, rub of the head, pat on the chest. Ole looking at him and Pogba just stared off into the distance with no acknowledgement to Ole at all
Pogba probably not happy with being subbed off. Regular occurrence at most clubs.
 
Just think how good we'll be when we get a top class manager that brings something to the table :drool:
Any new coach would immediately disassemble this team and want "his" players in. I don't think Ole's up to it, but I do think our structural issues make it almost impossible for a proper coach to succeed. I think this is our ceiling until those issues are fixed.