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2016-17 Performances


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5.2 Season Average Rating
Appearances
39
Goals
8
Assists
10
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Reactions on here are way over the top as usual. I understand Jose bringing him on, depite his general play, he's still more likely to come up with a goal or assist than most of our other options.
He really isnt
 
He is part of the problem but people thought we would automatically improve after dropping him, that didn't quite happen like that. Our problems are far more complex than this.

Haven't we just been on our longest unbeaten run for years? After he became a sub.

I'm not drawing any conclusions from that but it's certainly the case that we've improved since he became a squad player. Not every single game has been an improvement but the overall trend has been.

In anycase almost nobody blames entire performances on him. One poster comes in, says he's being scapegoated and then others just run with it.
 
He is part of the problem but people thought we would automatically improve after dropping him, that didn't quite happen like that. Our problems are far more complex than this.

They might well be. Let's start with the one that's sitting on the bench, earning 250k a week, coming on and doing feck all shall we.
 
Haven't we just been on our longest unbeaten run for years? After he became a sub.

I'm not drawing any conclusions from that but it's certainly the case that we've improved since he became a squad player. Not every single get has been an improvement but the overall trend has been.
We did gradually improve after that, but it wasn't as simple as people made out. We had and still have many other positions that need sorted and issues rectified. Many naively thought, as soon as Rooney is dropped everything will automatically fall into place. I wish it was that easy.
 
We did gradually improve after that, but it wasn't as simple as people made out. We had and still have many other positions that need sorted and issues rectified. Many naively thought, as soon as Rooney is dropped everything will automatically fall into place. I wish it was that easy.

Many? I doubt you can find one post that says that. Quote it if you can.
 
Many? I doubt you can find one post that says that. Quote it if you can.
Well I can't be sure if they difinitively thought that and I don't have any direct quotes. But I remember people drooling over the front 6 without Rooney assuming it will automatically work out even being world class.
 
Haven't we just been on our longest unbeaten run for years? After he became a sub.

I'm not drawing any conclusions from that but it's certainly the case that we've improved since he became a squad player. Not every single game has been an improvement but the overall trend has been.

In anycase almost nobody blames entire performances on him. One poster comes in, says he's being scapegoated and then others just run with it.

Those 17 matches unbeaten run consists of 12 wins and 5 draws. Rooney started in 8 of the 12 wins, and none of the draws.
 
As much? No with the absolute hate? No, they are not
Maybe that's because the other players aren't clearly over the hill. They might have the odd bad game (and get criticised for it) but generally the good games outweigh the bad.

Rooney however is clearly done and plays like a raffle winner almost every single match, and has done for three years. Add to that his sense of entitlement, salary and hypocritical history (what would he have said in 2010 had Fergie kept playing a 2014-2017 Rooney as his teammate?) and it's no surprise he gets more criticism than the rest.
 
He is part of the problem but people thought we would automatically improve after dropping him, that didn't quite happen like that. Our problems are far more complex than this.

We did improve without him tho
 
Maybe that's because the other players aren't clearly over the hill. They might have the odd bad game (and get criticised for it) but generally the good games outweigh the bad.

Rooney however is clearly done and plays like a raffle winner almost every single match, and has done for three years. Add to that his sense of entitlement, salary and hypocritical history (what would he have said in 2010 had Fergie kept playing a 2014-2017 Rooney as his teammate?) and it's no surprise he gets more criticism than the rest.
Boring salary same old same old not worth going into, sense of entitlement that a lot of people all presume and probably doesn't have yip heard it before, I don't think any of our players have been consistent performers but the only player who does get consistent abuse is Rooney.
I don't mind people saying he's had a bad game but some of the comments are clearly just to jump on the band wagon because it's never anything new
 
We did improve without him tho
We improved when we stopped playing lingard and rashford on the wings, rashford has been back in the team the last few games on the left and we look like a blunt spoon.
There is no supply to the strikers
 
It was also Herrera's cross to Smalling which set up the Mata chance. Rooney would've been lauded as the second coming of Scholes for that.

Some people are just too sensitive of any criticism of Rooney. I'm not saying this is true but I won't be surprised if his PR people actually employ people to register on forums like these to defend him.

:lol: Funny but possible! If Rooney set off 3 attacks like some people claim here in his defence than Rojo's a far better player than he is for setting him a multitude of them from the back.
 
We did improve without him tho

Our bad results so far this season consist of 6 losses and 9 draws. Rooney started in only 3 of the 6 losses, and not even once in the 9 draws. He was also missing when we suffered our heaviest defeat of the season at Stamford Bridge. Some improvement that was.
 
Our bad results so far this season consist of 6 losses and 9 draws. Rooney started in only 3 of the 6 losses, and not even once in the 9 draws. He was also missing when we suffered our heaviest defeat of the season at Stamford Bridge. Some improvement that was.

good thing improvement isn't solely and inherently reflected by results then. we are a better team without wayne rooney.
 
Don't know if there's any truth in this rumour but Red Issue reckon that he's dangerously addicted to Nutella, and the club are covering-up a midnight supermarket sweep in Spar. Apparently his blood/sugar level affected the Richter Scale. He's now at The Priory with Joe Pasquale.
 
Seems to be 'ill' alot this season. Is it just a way to drop him without causing controversy?
The first thing I thought after the reports come out.
How many times has he been ill this season?:lol:
 
Seems to be 'ill' alot this season. Is it just a way to drop him without causing controversy?

That would make sense earlier in the season but now we are passed that, not seeing him in the starting line up and now even in the squad is pretty normal. He isn't a starter anymore. I think Mourinho has managed the situation excellently.
 
Is he the Arsene Wenger of footballers.
Or is Arsene the Wayne Rooney of managers?

Basically, thanks for all youve done, but ... you know.
 
quality video.

he was such an amazing player its sad to see how he plays today :( but he is a club legend not matter what some people will say.
 
Great video, feel sorry for criticizing him. Wish he hit that record and left sooner so we would only have good memories of him.
 
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