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He was fecking dreadful and should have been sent off.

That's where the criticism is coming from.
Clearly he wasn't, so you want Man Utd players sent off? Mint, wish we had more supporters like you, should Rojo be in the fi st 11? He should of been sent off twice this year two games in a row

Edit: this season, before anyone says it happens last year :)
 
He also forced a good save out of Mignolet (before anyone realised he was offside) I thought Rooney was fairly poor, with some terrible moments, but he was far more influential on the game than the player he replaced. Martial showed some silky skills in the opening minutes but created bugger all and was completely anonymous by the time he was subbed off.
Level headed post, can't argue
 
It's a shame, mentally he's still got it and when he's static he can pick out a pass but anything that involves running, turning or generally moving he really struggles.

That point where he was 1 on 1 with Lovren and got nowhere near going passed him, sums him up for me now really.

Mourinho made a big mistake bringing him on instead of Rashford. The game was end to end and crying out for some pace, instead he subbed on our 3 slowest players.

Yes OK Rooney and Fellaini were involved with the goal, but maybe we could have scored 2/3 with Martial and Rashford still no together.
You can't say that, how did he make a mistake when they were responsible for us scoring, maybe we could of lost 2-0.

The mistakes were coming from our players trying to cross the ball from their own half, fellaini upset the Liverpool defence
 
The sooner we have better options than him on the bench the better. He'll always be picked as long as he's around. He seems to struggle to get his body to respond to what he wants to do, it's horrible to watch.
 
You can't say that, how did he make a mistake when they were responsible for us scoring, maybe we could of lost 2-0.

The mistakes were coming from our players trying to cross the ball from their own half, fellaini upset the Liverpool defence
IMO it should have been either him or Mata, not both. We are too slow and narrow with those 3 on in attack. If he wanted Martial off then Rashford should have come on to keep the width.
 
The best manager in the world still rates him.

He rates him so much that despite being senior figure and captain of this club, chasing the record, and actually making some decent perfrormances in the cup games, he gave him just 3 starts in premier league since late october, and two of those 3 were against worst teams in the league. :lol:

Stats of a player who is rated by his manager! He is very good player just in your eyes and your fellow Rooney fans.
 
He rates him so much that despite being senior figure and captain of this club, chasing the record, and actually making some decent perfrormances in the cup games, he gave him just 3 starts in premier league since late october, and two of those 3 were against worst teams in the league. :lol:

Stats of a player who is rated by his manager! He is very good player just in your eyes and your fellow Rooney fans.
I'm a fan of every player at United. I don't even think Rooney's that good anymore, but I'll call out abuse by 'fans' and be a bit more realistic about why Mourinho brings him on in so many games.

Rooney's lost his athleticism, so Mourinho tends to bring him on late. But he does so very regularly. In fact, he does so to the extent that Rooney is the 10th most used outfield player at the club. If Rooney was unrated it, he'd be getting treated like Schweinsteiger or Memphis or Scheiderlin. And he wouldn't have played for more minutes than Mkhitaryan and Martial.

The manager trusts him. If you can't see why, then more fool you.
 
So far his sub appearances this season have been pretty underwhelming to be polite - I haven't seen him come on once and either inject energy into the team performance or deliver something match winning. I would rather he started games (ideally unimportant games) and was brought off.
 
So far his sub appearances this season have been pretty underwhelming to be polite - I haven't seen him come on once and either inject energy into the team performance or deliver something match winning. I would rather he started games (ideally unimportant games) and was brought off.

Slightly odd timing to say that, considering his cross was a crucial component in our equaliser.
 
Slightly odd timing to say that, considering his cross was a crucial component in our equaliser.
Well we didn't win the match so it wasn't match winning and he was strolling around so hardly injected energy...
 
Whichever way you colour it the fact a player as poor as he now is was our first attacking option off the bench speaks of why we still sit in 6th, we don't have enough attacking quality in the squad.
 
It continues to amaze me how willing people are to back Rooney up, yes I respect what he has done in the past but it´s a long time since he became a liability in your play. His touch yesterday was terrible, he has no speed to go past players and you hardly ever notice him expect when he´s complaining to the referee. Is it do much to ask that a guy being one of the highest paid players in the world is giving something back. I would have liked to see Martial,Miki and Rashford behind Ibra when we were chasing the game. Miki ending up a left back and we going route one with Fellaini just drives me crazy, and adding Rooney and Mata to that as slow as they are meant we looked like we could not open them up. Miki is great at driving at teams and his best postion is attacking midfielder behind Ibra, but Rooney is so far away from being good enough any more to play for us.
 
Pretty standard performance from him. Came on and looked like he was trying too hard, trying to think two steps ahead and not playing in the moment. Resulted in him playing some poor rushed passes to give the ball away and not concentrating on controlling the ball getting it stuck under his feet. Slow and cumbersome as usual.
 
Whichever way you colour it the fact a player as poor as he now is was our first attacking option off the bench speaks of why we still sit in 6th, we don't have enough attacking quality in the squad.
Simple as. We are moaning that we are 6th but very satisfied that a club like United should be bringing on players based on reputation and ability to do just one thing. It just doesn't make sense. Next season, if Rooney and Fellaini are our immediate go to when we need more attacking impetus, we don't deserve to be higher than 6th.
 
The sooner we have better options than him on the bench the better. He'll always be picked as long as he's around. He seems to struggle to get his body to respond to what he wants to do, it's horrible to watch.

I think we're already at that stage. Rooney coming on at half time yesterday was the wrong decision because he's completely past it.

I think Jose had a feeling it was maybe pre written for Rooney to get his record breaking goal against Liverpool and that's why he was brought on. It was a gamble that didn't pay off but I can see why he did it.
 
Rooney's the Caf's United's current whipping boy ball and chain. I'll never join in with that kind of mob mentality that does not want to see the club I love progress forward and be where we should be, on top!.
Fixed!
 
It continues to amaze me how willing people are to back Rooney up, yes I respect what he has done in the past but it´s a long time since he became a liability in your play. His touch yesterday was terrible, he has no speed to go past players and you hardly ever notice him expect when he´s complaining to the referee. Is it do much to ask that a guy being one of the highest paid players in the world is giving something back. I would have liked to see Martial,Miki and Rashford behind Ibra when we were chasing the game. Miki ending up a left back and we going route one with Fellaini just drives me crazy, and adding Rooney and Mata to that as slow as they are meant we looked like we could not open them up. Miki is great at driving at teams and his best postion is attacking midfielder behind Ibra, but Rooney is so far away from being good enough any more to play for us.
Might of driven you crazy but t was the only way we were scoring, we tried pace on the wings and it was getting us nowhere
 
I think we're already at that stage. Rooney coming on at half time yesterday was the wrong decision because he's completely past it.

I think Jose had a feeling it was maybe pre written for Rooney to get his record breaking goal against Liverpool and that's why he was brought on. It was a gamble that didn't pay off but I can see why he did it.
Wrong decision and it brought a goal, well played mou
 
Simple as. We are moaning that we are 6th but very satisfied that a club like United should be bringing on players based on reputation and ability to do just one thing. It just doesn't make sense. Next season, if Rooney and Fellaini are our immediate go to when we need more attacking impetus, we don't deserve to be higher than 6th.
You clearly don't get how you need different options to change a game, we tried passing through them we tried pace on the wings and in the second half it brought us nothing.
Jose rightly changed it up, it worked, you can tell it worked because one we scored and two Juergen Flopp was crying salty tears about it
 
IMO it should have been either him or Mata, not both. We are too slow and narrow with those 3 on in attack. If he wanted Martial off then Rashford should have come on to keep the width.
I think the idea was for mhiki to overlap Rooney and keep our width, mhiki didn't do that once.
Not his fault I think it was a last minute change and mhiki didn't know what the hell he was being asked to do.
A few times Rooney held the ball up waiting for a run then turned to mhiki to tell him to get round.
But regardless of our opinions it worked, Rooney influenced the game more than mata how also looked off the pace.
In fact everyone of our players played average at best but I put it down to pools aggressive closing
 
I think the idea was for mhiki to overlap Rooney and keep our width, mhiki didn't do that once.
Not his fault I think it was a last minute change and mhiki didn't know what the hell he was being asked to do.
A few times Rooney held the ball up waiting for a run then turned to mhiki to tell him to get round.
But regardless of our opinions it worked, Rooney influenced the game more than mata how also looked off the pace.
In fact everyone of our players played average at best but I put it down to pools aggressive closing
Even so Rooney isn't a proper inside forward. He tried cutting in a few times and just ran into traffic and lost the ball. You've got to have agility and nimble feet for that.

Anyway not much we can do about it now but yeah Liverpool did a good job of shutting all of our players out TBH.
 
You clearly don't get how you need different options to change a game, we tried passing through them we tried pace on the wings and in the second half it brought us nothing.
Jose rightly changed it up, it worked, you can tell it worked because one we scored and two Juergen Flopp was crying salty tears about it
Well, you sir, are clearly not getting the point that you need to have good options and not just options to change a game. Had Zlatan not been the genius that he is, you will not be here telling me how bringing Rooney on was the best thing (as opposed to just being another option) because up to that point it was a shambolic decision. Bringing on a player at half time who looked like he'd been playing for 100 hours before the sub against a team that thrives in their high pressing game was silly. Any sub at half time, with such a reputation should at least be as sharp and as fit as those that were already on the pitch.
The point I believe @Devil may care was trying to make to which I agree was that as long as we hold on to players who are only good for just being "another option" in case things aren't going well, we shouldn't expect to progress forward. If we want to win things we should be able to have players coming off the bench that we can be happy to say it wouldn't have been the worst thing had they started. If Rooney came on for the opposition, I don't I'd be that fussed as opposed to a Rashford.
 
He controlled it pretty well for the goal I thought.

I did give him credit for that. That would slot in as one of the very few good actions he manages, on an average. Compared to his contributions in total though, it's far fram enough in a team aspiring for the top.

Too much of what he does on the pitch leads to nothing. More often than not, it actually hinders us as well. This has been the case since at least the 2014/15 season.
 
Might of driven you crazy but t was the only way we were scoring, we tried pace on the wings and it was getting us nowhere
What was getting us nowhere was starting with a much slower team, with much less workrate and it showed, we could not cope as the running stats from the game showed. Then making it slower with the subs was painful to see and having to go longball was dreadful. We need a proper fit leftback and hopefully Shaw will find form soon. Carrick can not cope with high pressing teams and we need to find a replacement for him. We also need 1 top winger that can cross the ball. Rooney is finished as clearly can be seen inn every match he plays and Rashford should always play instead of Rooney.
 
The sooner we have better options than him on the bench the better. He'll always be picked as long as he's around. He seems to struggle to get his body to respond to what he wants to do, it's horrible to watch.

I think Rashford is already a better option from the bench. Especially when considering Marcus pace and the fact that the opposition defenders are tired in the latter stages of the game and that Rooney is being played on the left.

It's obvious that Jose considered Rooney being one of the most motivated players in this occasion.
 
Some of his play is absolutely shocking, sunday league standard but then he did produce a great bit of play for the goal which will mask the overall performance. There were a few times where we were in dangerous positions and the ball got to Rooney and the attack was dead within a few seconds due to a bad touch or decision making. As has been mentioned, it seems his body cannot do what he wants it too.

There's no way he should be one of our main players, even from the bench, as is happening at the minute. Let him score the record goal in the cup or whatever and then phase him out even more.
 
What was getting us nowhere was starting with a much slower team, with much less workrate and it showed, we could not cope as the running stats from the game showed. Then making it slower with the subs was painful to see and having to go longball was dreadful. We need a proper fit leftback and hopefully Shaw will find form soon. Carrick can not cope with high pressing teams and we need to find a replacement for him. We also need 1 top winger that can cross the ball. Rooney is finished as clearly can be seen inn every match he plays and Rashford should always play instead of Rooney.
Not sure what other team you were expecting Jose to start?
That was our best mid and attack
Not bad being finished but constantly contributing
 
Well, you sir, are clearly not getting the point that you need to have good options and not just options to change a game. Had Zlatan not been the genius that he is, you will not be here telling me how bringing Rooney on was the best thing (as opposed to just being another option) because up to that point it was a shambolic decision. Bringing on a player at half time who looked like he'd been playing for 100 hours before the sub against a team that thrives in their high pressing game was silly. Any sub at half time, with such a reputation should at least be as sharp and as fit as those that were already on the pitch.
The point I believe @Devil may care was trying to make to which I agree was that as long as we hold on to players who are only good for just being "another option" in case things aren't going well, we shouldn't expect to progress forward. If we want to win things we should be able to have players coming off the bench that we can be happy to say it wouldn't have been the worst thing had they started. If Rooney came on for the opposition, I don't I'd be that fussed as opposed to a Rashford.
Well I do understand, Rooney has contributed, this genius header it was a good header but hardly mhiki v Sunderland, fellaini really should of scored his header.
A lot has been said of Rooney assists and the fact they aren't spectacular but the reason he has th is because he chooses the right option more often than not.
Yesterday he didn't panic, he didn't lash it into the stands like Herrera might of, he didn't try and come inside like martial, he took a touch took on his man down the line and put in a great ball with his left peg, he played the percentage move and we ended up scoring from that phase of play.
He is a good option and will be doing more than you know behind the scenes.
We need to move on from Rooney I agree, but until players are brought in he has a part to play this year
 
Even so Rooney isn't a proper inside forward. He tried cutting in a few times and just ran into traffic and lost the ball. You've got to have agility and nimble feet for that.

Anyway not much we can do about it now but yeah Liverpool did a good job of shutting all of our players out TBH.
Agreed, I've never enjoyed Rooney dribbling it was bad up bouncing off his shin even when he was at his best, he is better at coming on to the ball or when he doesn't have time to think.
Without anyone overlapping taking players away he was always running into traffic.
 
Stoke 1:1 Man Utd
He has made smashing long shots against defenders an art form. Every single time. Requires zero skill and never works.
 
Stat flashed up when he came on that he hasn't scored coming off the bench since 2009.

Yet its our go to sub chasing the game...
 
Good management is moving someone like him on and giving the opportunities to a youngster who offers at least equal to what he does, while gaining experience. Get rid asap.

Is he the pound for pound biggest waste of a wage in football atm? Trying to think of someone earning so much and offering so little.
 
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