My point was that dichinero's points didn't make sense. He was condemning Rooney for not giving up on drinking. i gave him examples where many had in the past, many do in the present and many will in the future drink/smoke . It's naive to think none of them do today and that everyone is a fitness freak like CR7.
I don't have a problem with any of them doing this in their free time as long as it doesn't affect their games. This incident was saturday night and they were due in training only on sunday afternoon. England's game was on tuesday and united's game is on saturday. I personally dont think if he played poorly it was due to drinking on saturday night/sunday morning. Hangovers for me generally last maybe an afternoon and thats mainly because I dont drink regularly. My friends who are regular drinkers barely get affected more than an hour the next morning. Of course I dont stay more than 2 or 3.
Is it condemnation that a professional athlete should be responsible for the tool of his trade? You are just making up stuff now. I clearly stated that it was a sacrifice that had to be made. All working people have to give up a pleasure that can have an adverse effectiveness on their profession. And at £300k/w, I don't see how looking after yourself in a professional is really a massive sacrifice. If at all he was a slave to the bottle, there is discrete professional help these days. You make it sound like getting smashed up is the only way to blow off some steam. He's not a teenager anymore, he a grown man. The captain of England and Manchester United, if you don't think that it's a huge honour and responsibility, too bad! You don't think that it's a huge sacrifice that Ronaldo treats his body the way it is? Ronaldo is not allergic to alcohol by the way but chose not to drink because it killed his father and he had the desire to be the best. It should worry you that these shared the same training ground at the most important moments of their respective careers. Ronaldo is not a fitness freak, he is simply doing what most many athletes should be doing and are aspiring to do and are actually doing. It is incredibly naive to think that sports science hasn't evolved since the 70s to bring up names like George Best. Consuming alcohol as a paid professional is frowned upon by those in the sports circle.
And I repeat, sure at £300k/w, will it not be responsible to 20k/y for a PT or seek professional help if he has an alcohol problem. Bellamy did it in the season e tore us one at 34 years of age. Players seek out the best nutritionist to help them kill bad habits an improve them outside the training ground. Aguero talked about how Messi constantly makes recommendations to him. Will you say that there isn't enough help at the Barcelona or City training ground? Of course there is but the onus is on the players to get the extra help. Being this responsible is not a genetic trait, it's an attitude. So please tell me where the condemnation is? Who knows how much he smashes himself at home in private.
What is worse is that you have conveniently ignored the fact that he is actively nursing an injury with a few days to an important match. It's not like he is in terrific form. At what point did he have to stop and think and say "My team mates have been under fire lately, as the captain I must sacrifice this one night of drinking, recover quicker, better myself, help my team in what ever way I can". Is that too much to ask. Instead you are trying to justify him going to celebrate one victory over Scotland by gate crashing a party because you are a celebrity, doing your body harm, risking your chances of helping your team and publicly shaming the organisation you represent.
You way of countering my points was to compare him with 3 of the greatest footballing legends in Ronaldinho, Maradona and Best whose eras where decades ago. Compared him with 2 of the greatest captains that have ever graced English football in Keane and Adams. If I didn't know any better, I'd say you were trying to say that Rooney was in the same category as this guys other than the drinking.
A hangover lasts one day for you, good. But I am guessing that you are not a professional athlete that needs his body to operating at 100% the next day. We are talking about an aging player, in poor shape, with a hang over that may last two days, hereby causing to miss two days of training, whereas he should be trying not only to be fit but nurse a supposedly minor injury ahead of a tough game. I don't drink but I'm not that naive, my friend!