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:lol: might as well said nothing at all. That statement pretty much validates what the Sun had
 
Or perhaps he's getting paid a fecking fortune on the off chance he might be fit to play when our other senior striker is already out.

Besides anything else, if he's as drunk as he looks in those pictures and as drunk as the guests claim, he's one stumble or misstep from missing the season with a twisted knee or broken ankle.

It's just mental that anyone thinks it's ok behaviour for an elite "athlete".

That is for the professionals in this mini drama to decide. If they think Wayne breached the professional standards they impose they will take action against.

Rather that than trial by tabloid media and bitter forum posters.
 
My point was that dichinero's points didn't make sense. He was condemning Rooney for not giving up on drinking. i gave him examples where many had in the past, many do in the present and many will in the future drink/smoke . It's naive to think none of them do today and that everyone is a fitness freak like CR7.

I don't have a problem with any of them doing this in their free time as long as it doesn't affect their games. This incident was saturday night and they were due in training only on sunday afternoon. England's game was on tuesday and united's game is on saturday. I personally dont think if he played poorly it was due to drinking on saturday night/sunday morning. Hangovers for me generally last maybe an afternoon and thats mainly because I dont drink regularly. My friends who are regular drinkers barely get affected more than an hour the next morning. Of course I dont stay more than 2 or 3.

Is it condemnation that a professional athlete should be responsible for the tool of his trade? You are just making up stuff now. I clearly stated that it was a sacrifice that had to be made. All working people have to give up a pleasure that can have an adverse effectiveness on their profession. And at £300k/w, I don't see how looking after yourself in a professional is really a massive sacrifice. If at all he was a slave to the bottle, there is discrete professional help these days. You make it sound like getting smashed up is the only way to blow off some steam. He's not a teenager anymore, he a grown man. The captain of England and Manchester United, if you don't think that it's a huge honour and responsibility, too bad! You don't think that it's a huge sacrifice that Ronaldo treats his body the way it is? Ronaldo is not allergic to alcohol by the way but chose not to drink because it killed his father and he had the desire to be the best. It should worry you that these shared the same training ground at the most important moments of their respective careers. Ronaldo is not a fitness freak, he is simply doing what most many athletes should be doing and are aspiring to do and are actually doing. It is incredibly naive to think that sports science hasn't evolved since the 70s to bring up names like George Best. Consuming alcohol as a paid professional is frowned upon by those in the sports circle.

And I repeat, sure at £300k/w, will it not be responsible to 20k/y for a PT or seek professional help if he has an alcohol problem. Bellamy did it in the season e tore us one at 34 years of age. Players seek out the best nutritionist to help them kill bad habits an improve them outside the training ground. Aguero talked about how Messi constantly makes recommendations to him. Will you say that there isn't enough help at the Barcelona or City training ground? Of course there is but the onus is on the players to get the extra help. Being this responsible is not a genetic trait, it's an attitude. So please tell me where the condemnation is? Who knows how much he smashes himself at home in private.

What is worse is that you have conveniently ignored the fact that he is actively nursing an injury with a few days to an important match. It's not like he is in terrific form. At what point did he have to stop and think and say "My team mates have been under fire lately, as the captain I must sacrifice this one night of drinking, recover quicker, better myself, help my team in what ever way I can". Is that too much to ask. Instead you are trying to justify him going to celebrate one victory over Scotland by gate crashing a party because you are a celebrity, doing your body harm, risking your chances of helping your team and publicly shaming the organisation you represent.

You way of countering my points was to compare him with 3 of the greatest footballing legends in Ronaldinho, Maradona and Best whose eras where decades ago. Compared him with 2 of the greatest captains that have ever graced English football in Keane and Adams. If I didn't know any better, I'd say you were trying to say that Rooney was in the same category as this guys other than the drinking.

A hangover lasts one day for you, good. But I am guessing that you are not a professional athlete that needs his body to operating at 100% the next day. We are talking about an aging player, in poor shape, with a hang over that may last two days, hereby causing to miss two days of training, whereas he should be trying not only to be fit but nurse a supposedly minor injury ahead of a tough game. I don't drink but I'm not that naive, my friend!
 
Ill fenomeno. It'll come to the point when most onlookers are going to start begging the executioner to behead this poor soul out of sheer mercy. Or maybe we're already past that milestone...
 
Excusing him for drinking cos past players / captains did it is almost to the levels of saying his performances on the field are fine cos hes not the worst player on the pitch (even though he normally is for us).
 
Who are these miracle men who only feel hungover for an hour or two in the morning?! Lucky cnuts.
Late teens and early 20's! Im almost 23 and its been starting to affect me for a few hours now instead of just the first 30 mins to an hour. Playing football the next day you feel it anyway though.
 
Anyway, for him drinking, I dont think he needs to cut ut out altogether like some do, that's personal choice. Getting smash in the middle of a busy week though is idiotic and he should be fined/dropped. You do it when you have a bit of time off and arent struggling to get in shape, because thats when he should be doing everything to get in the best shape he can.
 
Late teens and early 20's! Im almost 23 and its been starting to affect me for a few hours now instead of just the first 30 mins to an hour. Playing football the next day you feel it anyway though.

It's an age thing, for sure. I can still remember my first hangover, aged 18. Thinking "so this is what they're talking about" when I'd already been drinking for at least a year. The older you get, the longer they last. If I have a really big session nowadays I'm a complete invalid for the whole of the following day and still have a tangible hangover the day after that.

What's so depressing about this Rooney thing is that I've been expecting him, over the last few years, to have some sort of a wake-up call. Give up booze, take up yoga, start eating clean and turn up in pre-season looking like a new man. The sort of thing professional athletes need to do to keep performing at an elite level in their 30s. Well if being dropped for club and country isn't a wake-up call we now know the penny will never drop. What an idiot. Nobody to blame but himself. Although I'm now starting to wonder if he might actually be a functional alcoholic who needs some sort of professional help? Not going to happen half-way through the season though...
 
Who are these miracle men who only feel hungover for an hour or two in the morning?! Lucky cnuts.
Just a couple of years ago, I used to be fine the next morning. Now I'm fecked for half a day and I'm only in my mid 20s.
 
At first, I did not give a shit. But thinking about it, it is also indicative of why we are in this state as a club.
Rooney is our highest paid player and according to the players, the one they look up to.
Just look at other top clubs? How often do you hear, Messi, Ronaldo, Lewandowski and co were pissed up in a bar?
You can dismiss it if you want but that's our competition. If you let your highest paid player and captain, get away with shite like this and to top it off, bad performances for ages, it will sip into the squad as a whole.
If that's the case, how can you demand the highest level from the rest of your squad?
You just heard stories about how Pep Guardiola has already changed attitudes at Man City. How's he's not given them an inch.
It's night time we start demanding the maximum from these players.
 
Hundreds of guests at a wedding party and not one of them with a camera phone.

That went well.

Anyhow, week away from a game or not getting shitfaced is out of order for any progessional athlete, let alone our highest paid player and captain. I read an article about Jamie Vardy where he couldn't understand why an injury wasn't healing; it was because he was drinking a single vodka every night before bed. That much alcohol is hugely destructive to any body , let alone a supposed athlete.

If he starts this weekend its a joke, especially if Shaw doesn't. Compare and contrast how they have spent their international breaks.
 
At first, I did not give a shit. But thinking about it, it is also indicative of why we are in this state as a club.
Rooney is our highest paid player and according to the players, the one they look up to.
Just look at other top clubs? How often do you hear, Messi, Ronaldo, Lewandowski and co were pissed up in a bar?
You can dismiss it if you want but that's our competition. If you let your highest paid player and captain, get away with shite like this and to top it off, bad performances for ages, it will sip into the squad as a whole.
If that's the case, how can you demand the highest level from the rest of your squad?
You just heard stories about how Pep Guardiola has already changed attitudes at Man City. How's he's not given them an inch.
It's night time we start demanding the maximum from these players.

Pep got rid of Nasri I think for being fat.
If he was boozing as well, I'm not sure what he'd have done. Maybe shot him? :lol:

I do agree though, standards have slipped and basically players are allowed to do whatever the hell they want and play as badly as they want.
Jose really needs to crack down on this and especially on Rooney. I'd be happy if Jose said that Wayne will never play for us again (just as he did for Bastian).
 
Pep got rid of Nasri I think for being fat.
If he was boozing as well, I'm not sure what he'd have done. Maybe shot him? :lol:

I do agree though, standards have slipped and basically players are allowed to do whatever the hell they want and play as badly as they want.
Jose really needs to crack down on this and especially on Rooney. I'd be happy if Jose said that Wayne will never play for us again (just as he did for Bastian).
It's annoying. You will not find this shite happening with a Guardiola player.
You just get the feeling, this club has developed a meh attitude to mediocrity.
 
It's annoying. You will not find this shite happening with a Guardiola player.
You just get the feeling, this club has developed a meh attitude to mediocrity.
Wasn't there a big commotion when Messi humiliated Pep by drinking a can of coke! The greatest player of all time drinking a can of coke!?! We should hire Pep to come and do our spring cleaning.
 
Imagine how fat Rooney is gonna get when he retires. Be like Ricky Hatton mk2.

What's his weight after he retires got to do with anything?

Are we now condemning people for theoretically getting fat in the future?
 
What's his weight after he retires got to do with anything?

Are we now condemning people for theoretically getting fat in the future?
Who said it has anything to do with anything?

It was just a passing remark given how little he seems to look after himself, no need to get bent out of shape over it.
 
Who said it has anything to do with anything?

It was just a passing remark given how little he seems to look after himself, no need to get bent out of shape over it.

It just seems odd to have already decided he's going to be fat in the future.

Odd to even think about it and harsh to draw that conclusion.
 
It just seems odd to have already decided he's going to be fat in the future.

Odd to even think about it and harsh to draw that conclusion.
Did you stop reading part way through my post?

This is just the latest story about him not looking after himself physically, he's seemingly a heavy drinker and also a smoker. When he stops playing football he's going to balloon, that's not exactly a controversial line of thought.

Harsh to draw the conclusion? FFS, you need a tissue?
 
Wouldn't really care much if he were performing on the pitch, given how his career is going though you'd expect him to be doing everything he can to get fit and work his way back in to the first team for club and country. Instead we get this. It's hard to see how anyone can still be on Rooney's side.
 
Did you stop reading part way through my post?

This is just the latest story about him not looking after himself physically, he's seemingly a heavy drinker and also a smoker. When he stops playing football he's going to balloon, that's not exactly a controversial line of thought.

Harsh to draw the conclusion? FFS, you need a tissue?

There is no evidence whatsoever that he's a heavy drinker. He's been under the spotlight like no other footballer for 15 years. If he was a heavy drinker there'd be numerous, conclusive, pieces of evidence.

Yourself and others are just making this up. Swap "harsh" for "incorrect."
 
I don't see how people can defend him.

He's the captain of his country, and an injury was faked to hide the fact he got too drunk to stand.
 
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