All the best. I can assure you that Uni is more hardwork than how smart. Knuckle down and you will get sweet success.
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All the best. I can assure you that Uni is more hardwork than how smart. Knuckle down and you will get sweet success.
Don't mean to make light of a serious thing, but anyone else think there might be a bit of a Gascoigne situation with Wazza?
How is that making light of a serious thing? Gazza has had some well documented issues.
You really can't make this shit up man.
He makes it hard NOT to dislike him.
He makes it hard NOT to dislike him.
How is that making light of a serious thing? Gazza has had some well documented issues.
I phrased my post badly. What I meant to say was I don't want to turn Gazza's issues into a shot at Rooney.
But yeah, does anyone else think there might be more into Rooney than him not just taking care of his body?
Ah. Understood.
Well, he's way more successful than Gazza was. At least there's that.
I still wonder how Gazza's career would've worked out if he'd joined us instead of Spurs.
Lolz.
Blatant, stereotyping. Somebody set up a safe space!
This is just stupid. didnt keane often drink till he passed out too? How is this anything new? You act as if all footballers are taking care of their body like Zlatan or Ronaldo. Maradona, Ronaldinho,George Best, Garrincha,Tony Adams etc. are players who were better than Rooney but they were worse than him in taking care of their body. You are being naive if you think that captains are angels who dont have any vices. Tony Adams and Roy Keane were captains of the teams and they were excellent captains.
You seem to think that Rooney is the only player in the world to drink. I doubt he even drinks as often and as much as the likes of Adams Gazza and Keane did
Yeah, no need for that sort of thing at all, racism, ethnicicism or sterotyping. It terrible. He's probably English, they're all cnuts.
You should hear your self speak. It's stupid because there is a high expectation upon the captain of England and Manchester United? Using George Best, Tony Adams et al as a basis for Rooney to drink often because they played in the same era where drinking is not advisable in sports circles? You doubt he drinks often? You live with him? Everyone can see the state of the guy as it clear he doesn't look after himself properly.
I say again my friend, have a good sit with yourself before you call a post stupid because you have low expectations.
Edit: Did you actually just even put George Best of yesteryears and Rooney in the same sentence, because they drank? Maradona and Ronaldinho too? Roy Keane and Tony Adams as a comparison as captains?
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Not sure what your point is. It's fine for Rooney to get smashed like this before an important game because some players in the past did it too?
No I dont support Rooney's actions but I can see that very few abstain from alcohol like Ronaldo does, at least for health reasons (few like Toure and all abstain from it for religious purposes). The post I replied to had words like
which is clearly a joke as many professional footballers, even players way better than rooney have done this, are doing this, and will continue to do this.
You should hear your self speak. It's stupid because there is a high expectation upon the captain of England and Manchester United? Using George Best, Tony Adams et al as a basis for Rooney to drink often because they played in the same era where drinking is not advisable in sports circles? You doubt he drinks often? You live with him? Everyone can see the state of the guy as it clear he doesn't look after himself properly.
I say again my friend, have a good sit with yourself before you call a post stupid because you have low expectations.
Edit: Did you actually just even put George Best of yesteryears and Rooney in the same sentence, because they drank? Maradona and Ronaldinho too? Roy Keane and Tony Adams as a comparison as captains?
this is your quote. many of the best captains have been drinkers, smokers and with other vices. as i mentioned, Roy Keane has said that often used to stay out until 3 am drinking and often fought with SAF about it. Yet no one had a problem being inspired by him. Did people lose inspiration on Cantona because of his ban too? Even currently, Germany's captain till 2 months back has been accused of being overweight and not taking care of his body.
As to your edit, that shows your inability to comprehend. You seem to see a few words and then assign your own meaning to the sentence
If you understood this as me saying Best and others & Rooney were the same then sure, thats my fault I guess.
He's out nearly every other night, getting pissed, and it's only now he's caught by a mainstream newspaper?
feck me, he is good at keeping things quiet
feck me, he is good at keeping things quiet
Many of the best captains but all you keep rehashing is Roy Keane. The fact that you insist on using Roy Keane as a basis of your comparison to Rooney is still surprising but that's your call I guess. What does Cantona and his ban have to do with this? Typical, when it comes to a Rooney defence you lot throw other players under radar.
My inability to comprehend because I disagree with your comments? Did you expect a hug? Don't worry, I'll send you a gold star next time, ok?
Do you not see the impact of timing and extent? No one would give a feck if he had a pint now or had this slumber party during the off season. Getting wasted like this days before a big game is utterly stupid and irresponsible. Defending him by bringing up others who did the same earlier proves nothing.
Still, if you must, go ahead and name some other captains, players who have been found in Rooney's state days before a game in recent times. Name them, instead of again saying many players, many captains etc.
Haha sorry I knew you lads would all nibble, c'mon it was just a little joke.
I consider Roy Keane as one of the best united captains in the last 20 years. He wasnt perfect but it was clear that people looked up to him even after he did stuff like the 2002 wc incident by going against the manager and some players. So if thats surprising for you, then fair enough.
Inability to comprehend because your understanding of the post seems to be the opposite of whats actually written. I clearly wrote that Best was better than Rooney but you act as if I said Best and Rooney were the same level. The point I made was that Players better than him have history of throwing away their careers due to not taking care of their body well. Thats not merely disagreeing with comments, thats you disagreeing with what you think is the comment.
I dont want a Gold Star. You might send me something else entirely. Cant be sure what you understood.
Lampard and Terry who got drunk and insulted American tourists at Heathrow on the wake of 9/11, days before a game? There are multiple instances of footballers getting caught drunk/high. Terry Rooney and all themselves may probably have had a few during their 10+ years as a footballer. Doesnt really mean that they are
Plus has alcohol become suddenly stronger that drinking before a game in the past (during the 90s) didnt have the same impact as it does now? Im guessing that staying out drunk till 3 am in the 90s also meant you needed a few days to recover.
Again, why are you circling around what I asked for instead of providing it? I asked for all these inspirational players/captains around who've been caught doing this days before I game. Is lampard and Terry all you got?
More importantly, assuming you got 10 others, would that make all 10 of them wrong or make Rooney right? This is why I said in my first post that the point you're trying to make isn't very clear. You seem to be defending Rooney while knowing what he's done is daft and your defense(correct or otherwise) seems to be "others have been daft bints too".
Re your last paragraph, alcohol doesn't need to become stronger for it to become a disadvantage. When there's a drinking culture where most players don't take care of their body as much, it's still a level playing field. Doing so now when players are conditioned much better and where he already struggles is just taking the piss.
Anyways, I've bolded a part of my post. That's the part where your response is most interesting to me because I'm yet to see the point you're trying to make in this thread.
Keane admitted that his drinking was catching up with him and were a hindrance in terms of restitution etc. It's wildly unprofessional and frankly a disgrace in this day and age of sport science and marginal gains etc.
The "past captains from decades ago" we're heavy drinkers is the shittest excuse.
What a surprise, our best paid player is also our most unprofessional
The pics enough proof for you i take it?.......
The pics enough proof for you i take it?.......
Keano also didn't look overweight or play sluggish as captain fantastic shows us every other fecking weekend.
The Sun has it in for Rooney this year. I think they are Mourinhos mouth peice this year as everything they have said regarding Rooney has been spot on.
To be fair the pictures hadn't appeared when he made that comment. I hate people bringing up past players. Drink killed Best, McGrath it wrecked his life as he is an alcoholic, I bet Whiteside wished he looked after himself better in hindsight, a talent who didn't fulfill all he could have. There is nothing heroic about being a pisshead.
I fully accept that, but with Rooney(and to an extent Mkhi) we have posters who unless its in big neon lights around Old Trafford they refuse to accept anything!
Rooney 2k10 - it was obvious from his body language etc etc that something big was going down (que loads of posters showing memes of Anderson laughing because its so obviously crap, what happens. Its true)
Mkhi - 4 or 5 weeks ago when it was so bloody obvious that Jose would rather play me than Mkhi there was STILL some people saying "nah, youre being drama queens, nothing to see,move on. What happened, we all know)
Wise up fgs.
My point was that dichinero's points didn't make sense. He was condemning Rooney for not giving up on drinking. i gave him examples where many had in the past, many do in the present and many will in the future drink/smoke . It's naive to think none of them do today and that everyone is a fitness freak like CR7.
I don't have a problem with any of them doing this in their free time as long as it doesn't affect their games. This incident was saturday night and they were due in training only on sunday afternoon. England's game was on tuesday and united's game is on saturday. I personally dont think if he played poorly it was due to drinking on saturday night/sunday morning. Hangovers for me generally last maybe an afternoon and thats mainly because I dont drink regularly. My friends who are regular drinkers barely get affected more than an hour the next morning. Of course I dont stay more than 2 or 3.
So he was wrong in condemning Rooney for drinking because you have examples of other players that have done the same? That makes sense to you?
Which of your friends or you play football for a living? Forget about the PL, even for some club here India? If none of you do, what exactly is the relevance of your last paragraph here to a discussion about the impact getting sloshed like this would have on a PL footballer?
Southgate denies Sun claims over ‘drunk’ Rooney:
http://www.football365.com/news/southgate-denies-sun-claims-over-drunk-rooney
http://www.football365.com/news/southgate-denies-sun-claims-over-drunk-rooney
'He ain't drunk, he just looks like this.'
The article is what you would expect. He isn't going to say his captain behaved badly and was drunk. When did this injury happen, was it during the Scotland game or did he injure himself training when hungover?
You lucky bastard.
My hangovers last about 2 days and I'm the same age as Wayne Rooney.
You are being incredible naive my friend.
Surely its all about the minutiae at that level, the marginal gains as someone above has said.
Giggs - leaves out margarine because he can "feel" it.
Rooney - gets hammered but its ok because he has a day where a hangover is ok......
W.T.F
Giggs - leaves out margarine because he can "feel" it.
Rooney - gets hammered but its ok because he has a day where a hangover is ok......
W.T.F
And this is why Rooney can do whatever the feck he likes.
It says that he got drunk because he knew he was injured at least. If you think he shouldn't be able to get rat arsed a week before a possible game then maybe you are right, or perhaps the club has guidelines on this?
Or perhaps he knows he has no chance of playing against Arsenal anyway?
Getting bladdered is hardly going to aid his recovery from an injury is it? He's an idiot.
Or perhaps he's getting paid a fecking fortune on the off chance he might be fit to play when our other senior striker is already out.
Besides anything else, if he's as drunk as he looks in those pictures and as drunk as the guests claim, he's one stumble or misstep from missing the season with a twisted knee or broken ankle.
It's just mental that anyone thinks it's ok behaviour for an elite "athlete".
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