To be fair, Southgate probably doesn't have much to lose. Trying to stand out by doing something unusual may give him a better chance of landing the job permanently.
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To be fair, Southgate probably doesn't have much to lose. Trying to stand out by doing something unusual may give him a better chance of landing the job permanently.
he is a physical freak so we dont know what will happen, if he can adjust his position and training. The likes of Sheringham and Shearer managed a few more years, let alone Scholes and Giggs and then the OAP club from AC Milan.
Its possible so let see.
A bit melodramatic.
Nobody tweeted abuse.
Coleen got upset because her sons heard daddy got booed on the radio. Pathetic really. Maybe she should take another holiday.
Coleen got upset because her sons heard daddy got booed on the radio. Pathetic really. Maybe she should take another holiday.
Do you even know what you're talking about? The only thing that has "defiled" Rooney's reputation is that time he shagged an old prostitute.
Got to say I admire your optimism.
He'll need a lot more than 1% to get anywhere close to being good enough again.
He hit puberty at about 12 and his genes are closer to that of a Darts player than an athlete. If he didn't have a Y chromosome he'd be moaning about hot flushes right about now.
He shuffles around the pitch like his pants are round his ankles and there's nobody in the house to fetch him a new bog roll.
He's not going to suddenly hit a rich vein of form when he has been on a steady decline for 4 years and he has 4 superior players ahead of him in all positions he claims to be able to play.
Well you can't knock Rooney for his attitude to being dropped! Fair play to him!
Impressive faith. Perhaps there's a magic 50% in there.
On a serious (ish) note, Rooney's only hope of getting back to some kind of form is to abandon the midfielder nonsense, commit to playing at centre forward and use his finishing ability to stay in the goals at another club. I can't see any other way back from this as it stands.
He hasn't exactly given his doubters much too hold on. It's one thing to be out of form, it happens to all players but he has never really endeared himself to the fans! Evra will still get more loyalty today from United fans than Rooney can currently dream of.
yes it was, and Im saying he should be dropped. But the way some of our fans have turned on him has been disgraceful in my opinion.
Wasting your time
It's amazing that they are people out there who believe that Rooney can just flick some motivation switch to get back to his best.It's not mental with him.It's physical.
Rooney was a physical freak in his younger years, the quintessential man child. Now, he's just a plodding player. His athletic advantages over his peers have no reduced to almost nil.
Sheringham was a clever footballer who had to adapt his game because of his physical shortcomings. Shearer could do what he did post-30 because he was at a post-Bobby Robson Newcastle who were getting steadily worse and worse, plus he retired from international football to extend his club career too.
Both instances are a poor comparison to Rooney because Rooney's best traits were his impulsive and impetuous play, and his athleticism. The former had largely went by 2009 and the latter was always a ticking time bomb which has now all but gone. And once it has gone, it isn't coming back. For previous examples of such a situation, see Steven Gerrard, whose athleticism was the bedrock of his reputation as a player. Once that went, he was on a steep decline and he never got anywhere near to his best. Rooney's trajectory is almost exactly the same, except he managed to get away with it for longer.
Then fade-to-black and credits right?
Gerrard was actually very good for Liverpool in 2013/14, although on the whole I'd agree that he never really reached his best again once he got to around Rooney's age, maybe just slightly older. Both players did have similar styles with their energy and ability to drive a team forward.
Rooney's decline at around the age of 30 is hardly unique, though. Torres was a shell of himself by the time he'd hit to his late 30s. The Robbie Fowler who returned to Liverpool in 2006 was an utter shadow of the one who'd been their a few years before even though Fowler was just about 30 as well. Hell, even though he did alright, you could argue that someone like Andy Cole was on the wane by his late 20s if you look at the general decline in his goals tallies and the fact he never really got close to 20 in a season again after 99/00. Then you've got the massive number of talented Brazilian attacking players who faded at a youngish age.
Just saw the presser, fair play to Rooney, he came across sincere and somewhat humble in his demeanour.
The irony here and elsewhere is that most critics have only ever said he's no longer longer got the legs or lungs to perform at this level. We've pointed out time and again it's not his fault, it happens to all players eventually.
It's only the defenders like @sammsky1 who actually come out and say he's not giving his all, that he could put more effort in.
We only argue that he's past it, here you are are actually questioning his desire, his application in training, his effort levels.
Very harsh indeed Sammsky.
Let's find a position for him where he doesn't need to run, have all the time in the world to control the ball and play crossfield passes to Valencia and still be useful, well he can play leftback for Swindon town maybe but only if they sign Valencia as well.
Rooney's done at top level, he wouldn't get into any team in the premier league let alone playing for the biggest club in the world. I think it's even terrible he can still make the bench for us due to his name... hands on heart, imagine his name is say Chris Eagles, noone would give a shit to release him in this state, he also stopped caring on the pitch and his stamina is just terrible..
John terry is a central defender, they can work with things like positioning, experience and play until later even though their legs are gone
Just the fanboys exaggerating to make their point!
He wasn't imo. He scored a lot of goals that season because he was the main set piece taker, and he was downright negligent in his screening of the back 4 as the DLP. He had the same issues as Rooney has now in his love for the Hollywood pass rather than the right pass, and like Rooney, it took everyone years to come to terms with the fact he was finished.
Get real. She gets dogs abuse all the time.
What a national circus this is, all over a footballer dropped for not playing well
ha! Very clever! you rascal.
Not what I said. If you read my post earlier, I actually said he will have to adjust his training methods and approach, whilst getting more motivation which may also provide an extra 1%. That is very different to what you are implying I said.
Especially after every tournament, Stevie g, lampard,Terry and rio were never criticized as much as Rooney after England tournaments
I think we might see an upturn in form from him once everyone gets used to the idea that he's going to play a lesser role at this stage. At the moment it's a bit of a circus around every team selection. There are plenty of other players for United and England that get chopped in and out of the team with great regularity with only a passing mention.
Please do shut up and stop yapping your hypocritical babbling. You spent an entire week slagging Pogba and rallying a brigade to join you on the onslaught yet you have the gut to come in here and point finger at others for sticking it to Rooney.
And no I don't go around slagging Rooney, I have my opinion about him currently which conform mostly with what is obvious to see but I don't need to repeat it everywhere. You come off extremely hypocritical(especially after your aggressive attacks you've had against Pogba) that I just had to step in and ask you to look yourself in the mirror before acting all pretentious.
It is weird how dropping our best outfield player of last season in martial is barely a footnote in comparison.
Not at all.
You said he needs a jolt. That he needs to transform the way he participates in training. That he needs to be more motivated. I'd say that's really unfair on Rooney.
I don't think some of his harshest critics would question his application.
Utter nonsense I'm afraid, 1%, try 70%, as for transforming the way he trains and prepares etc, he's not bothered before, which if he had he 100% wouldn't be as bad as he is now, to expect him to do it now is delusional at best.
I'm basically repeating what I'm saying above but why would he adjust his training and preparation all of a sudden when he's always boozed and smoked it up in the summer etc, it's just not him and those other players are completely different body type.
The idiots on Twitter shouting abuse at him will be the same ones singing The White Pele when he breaks the record. A lot of our social media fanbase is rubbish.
You're mistaken. A lot of the abuse has been from England fans.
No one will be calling him the white pele.
There's loads of abuse from our own fans as well here and even more so on Twitter.
Thankfully the match going fans have the decency to show him some respect unlike all the keyboard warriors.
Poor Wayne doesn't get any respect.
“It’s obvious I’m not as quick as I was, but you can always have a football brain. I’ve got that. Of course there will come a time, if I’m not playing, I might have to be a bit more selfish in terms of where I want to play and making that clear."
Well that went spectacularly wrong. Dropped by England within a week too.
Well that went spectacularly wrong. Dropped by England within a week too.
Isnt this the performances thread? I just see here press conferences, respect, Coleen etc.
This thread should be much quieter, since he is benched nowadays.
The sooner he is sold, the better. Not just for United, but also RedCafe.
This thread should be much quieter, since he is benched nowadays.
The sooner he is sold, the better. Not just for United, but also RedCafe.
Rooney has been doing RedCafe good in term of commercial value: many threads, talk, clicks... so someone on the top will be upset when Rooney's gone
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