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The real problem for me, is that he seems to have so much power internally at the moment that it's totally taken away his motivation and need to prove himself in every match. He's not the same Rooney as he was under Ferguson....and when he wasn't the same Rooney under him, Fergie wanted to get rid. I've always been a Rooney supporter, but for the first time I'm wondering whether he's a spent force, not only in his age, but his hunger to. LVG needs to drop him, however...who the hell do we have otherwise? I mean who is there? No one.
Just when things started to get better, a shitstorm descends on him. Kinda feel sorry for the lad.
What I don't understand is does no one in the club hierarchy (maybe apart from Sir Alex) see that depending on Rooney is not the answer? How can an intelligent man like LVG fall for this as well? Surely he can see that his performances are not what we need? It all just puzzles me.
...does Giggs have a say in all this? This is a guy who really understands how players tick. No..not a manager yet, but a guy who understands the playing side of it really well.
I think it's more of a case that the wages he is on, there is no way we are going to be able to sell him, so we have to play him it seems
Bugge were also ravaged by injuries too for the record
Giggs should understand what Rooney is about but, his mate Gary Nev et al never criticise Rooney. Everybody else is thrown under the bus except Rooney. There is a bias towards Rooney which I believe Giggs has as well. Wouldn't be surprised if he advised LVG to give the captaincy to Rooney. Plus, as much as I loved him as a player, Giggs is very sneaky. He's waiting for LVG to feck up so that he's right there to take over. No way do I believe he has the integrity to put the needs of the club above his own ambitions. I'm sorry if it sounds harsh but that's my reading on him.
I worry about this too.
I think Rooney will play this season and then LvG would decide what to do with him. If he succeeds then great but if he fails than it will be a season too late. I just don't understand why LvG is taking such a risk where his past seasons performance suggest he's not the player he was when he was 23-24.
You are characterizing Giggs as sneaky without knowing him? Neville usually don't criticize English NT players incl not only Rooney but Joe Hart amongst others as well.
no need for discussion, Rooney is past it, we may as well bring back Bobby Charlton
Hate to say it but screwing your brother's wife does seem a bit sneaky in my book.
It is in normal circumstances but didn't his brother's wife had a reputation for having a fetish for footballers or something?
Dunno what fetish she has/had. But you need to take into account Giggs' ambition to manage Man Utd. No way does he give a damn about anything except realising that ambition. He wouldn't try shit with Sir Alex, but everyone else is fair game. You watch if things get worse with our results, Scholes, Neville and so on will be having their little digs, no doubt with Ryan's full approval. Sorry, it's just the way I see them in this situation. Irrespective of all that, he will be no help whatsoever in the Rooney saga. They get on, and he won't be objective in this instance imo.
Good point, Giggs was only doing the honourable thing of exposing her! paying for the abortion only further proves what a great guy he is.
I love Giggs as a player and as a United Legend but he is a real cnut.
Also Rooney needs to pull the trigger sooner, get in the box, shoot on sight! simple.
Rooney is our hope for the season? Then we will have a very tough job to get in top 4. It may even be beyond us.
This is a huge fear of mine. We need two quality attacking players *and* a manager willing to sit Rooney.
I just saw that he's my lowest rated player this season, even with the 9 I gave him against Brugge. 0.1 points below Chicharito in second to last place.
I'd be shocked if he justifies more than a 4 in our next game too, with it being against Liverpool.
I'd be shocked if he justifies more than a 4 in our next game too, with it being against Liverpool.
Rooney looks like a pub league player in every match. But he is on 300k a week . Ed Woodward spends most of his time looking for sponsors who will give the Glazers cash if they allow them to use the club logo. He has got a hell of a lot of money with that method. But contrary to the belief of many supporters of United, that cash will not be used in the interests of the club. It will go in the same direction as the future 700 million from Addidas and the 350 million from Chevrolet will go. Do not expect to see it being used to make the team better on the pitch. The owners have other plans. That is just my view.
It'll be "Rooney's back" again next week when he scores a couple against San Marino. That dive when he knew he'd fluffed the chance was pathetic, so depressing knowing that this guy is the Captain
I don't know about any of that. We got rid of lot of deadwood incl Cleverly, Evans, Fletcher who probably also got well with Giggs. Rooney is not yet a deadwood. I think its silly from management not to get competition for him which 'd have been ideal for the club going forward. But Giggs vetoing anything about Rooney that LvG decides is probably not the complete truth.
I don't care about who shaggs whom as long as its not rape. Rooney need to improve a lot to be a real valuable player for us. Right now he seems like a liability and hence the need to sign a quality player to provide competition for him and if necessary replace him.Good point, Giggs was only doing the honourable thing of exposing her! paying for the abortion only further proves what a great guy he is.
I love Giggs as a player and as a United Legend but he is a real cnut.
Also Rooney needs to pull the trigger sooner, get in the box, shoot on sight! simple.
Does that make the fact that he chose to sleep with her any better? That's going against the bro code. Literally.I agree its against bro code. But beyond that its subjective. It makes him a dick personally but does that make him a selfish arrogant who is trying to ruin LvG's career for personal ambitions? I don't think so. Plus LvG should be able to make big calls by himself.
His lack of striker's instinct in this match was very concerning. To not even get a shot away from two scenarios of being seemingly through on goal is poor.
For the first one he showed good pace but then had to drive across Williams' path, not attempt to cut back, allowing him to tackle. He didn't seem to back himself dribbling at full speed so put the brakes on.
For the second one he did really well to create the opportunity and then made the same mistake again. Infuriating.
I will support him to the bitter end but these performances have become all to frequent. He has obviously lost the pace and power of his youth but he now seems to have lost his clinical edge which came in his mid 20s.
For the first one he showed good pace but then had to drive across Williams' path, not attempt to cut back, allowing him to tackle. He didn't seem to back himself dribbling at full speed so put the brakes on.
For the second one he did really well to create the opportunity and then made the same mistake again. Infuriating.
I will support him to the bitter end but these performances have become all to frequent. He has obviously lost the pace and power of his youth but he now seems to have lost his clinical edge which came in his mid 20s.
How did you work that out, Soccerbase has it my way, I checked again. I went for all competitions too but only club, no country.
Also Kane surely has three of his eight against Leicester? You should include that if you want to specify hatricks.
I looked it up on Transfermarkt. And yes, Kane has 3 of his 8 against Leicester.
Kane had 4 games this season with 0 goals, in his last 16 games in 2014/15 he had 1 goal v Everton, 1 goal v Newcastle, 3 goals v Leicester, 2 goals v QPR and 1 goal v West Ham. This is including all competitions so the last 20 games includes 2 games vs Fiorentina in the Europa League and the League Cup Final, all 3 of those games he failed to score.
In the last 20 league games he got 13 goals, same as above plus 1 goal v Liverpool, 2 v Arsenal and 2 v West Brom.
This may upset some people here but should Rooney be stripped of his captaincy?
According to transfermarkt
In all competitions in 20 matches Rooney has 9 goals, you missed the FA Cup tie against Preston.
We seem to agree on Harry Kane's 8 in his last 20 matches.
Diego Costa also has 8 in 20 according to transfermarkt. You need to check his other competitions, he plays FA Cup against Watford, Capitol one against Liverpool twice and Spurs, and Champions League twice against PSG.
Counting just the last 20 league games is fine for Costa and Kane but it's not fair when discussing Rooney as a striker since he actually started playing that position from 20 matches in all competitions ago.
First comment on this forum since watching the game. Absolutely diabolical, just as I predicted the Brugge game was 100% irrelevant considering those guys are as good as your local pub league players. Its worrying that the guy is 29 and he is already fecking finished! RvP at 29 was a beast, single handedly winning us the league
Ah yeah I fecked up, Transfermarkts American date system messed up my mind. I hate that there isn't an option to view all the games in the order they were played.
I know he had a poor game and he's generally been poor for a while... But I just think he doesn't suit Van gaal's style as a striker, at all. Rooney thrives when we play with quick football, and have other players running up with him, so he can pick the ball up and run with it and have others stretching teams to give him space. We don't play with that style at all. Rooney isn't suited at all to a slow, possession, safe play based on tight control and slowly trying to unlock defences. Put him in a counter attacking team and he'll be at his best, which you can also say for Mata and Memphis.
The only part that is not pure speculation.
I agree and think most of our players dont. This possession ticky tacka we are trying to play doesn't suit most of our players. Memphis was just as shit today for example.
I disagree with the bold. There is quite a bit of selfishness in choosing to lay your brothers wife. I do agree with the rest of the post however. I very much doubt LVG relies on Giggs to make his decisions nor that Giggs is trying to feck up his career.
He's a complete dung heap.
With the wage and status he has, he should be putting in the kind of performance he did against Spurs last season at least once every 5 games or so whilst not dropping massively in standard in the games lying in between. Think about that for a second.
Walker nicked the ball off him v Spurs. Fortunate for us it went in.
Same thing today. He gets into good positions and then does not convert.
He cannot play 2 games in a week anymore. He needs to drop back to being a 10 and play behind a 9.
Same thing today. He gets into good positions and then does not convert.
He cannot play 2 games in a week anymore. He needs to drop back to being a 10 and play behind a 9.
Oh, come on. He's not that complete.
His agent has done brilliantly. Is the contract really until 2019? That is so utterly depressing if true. The British media need to stop making excuses for him too. If he's struggling it is because of the system or because he is out of position. He's shit as a nine or a ten these days! It is just unbelievable how cautious they are with him. He's been our worst outfield player by an absolute mile. He is a serious issue.
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