This. Holding us back big time. Will be interesting to see if we feck this up the way Pool did and let him play on for too long. As we tend to repeat mistakes (Moyes) I wouln't be surprised at all.
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This. Holding us back big time. Will be interesting to see if we feck this up the way Pool did and let him play on for too long. As we tend to repeat mistakes (Moyes) I wouln't be surprised at all.
Really confused with the extra touches he was taking when through on goal, complete opposite to how sharp he was against Brugge. I've always defended Wayne but today was pathetic. Still think the criticism is over the top, I think we have big problems not just with Rooney but our goal keeper defence, attacking midfielders and the way we play.
Should he be sold? I think he will get the same chance Rvp and Falcao had and if he doesn't improve Lvg will show him the door.
Should he be sold? I think he will get the same chance Rvp and Falcao had and if he doesn't improve Lvg will show him the door.
He was pulling the trigger at the first opportunity against Brugge, yet today he wanted an extra two or three seconds to set himself before shooting.
Also I'd question his ability to perform as a captain when he's in his desperate, tantrum laden moods like he is right now.
Also I'd question his ability to perform as a captain when he's in his desperate, tantrum laden moods like he is right now.
He has said before that his best position is striker. Even told Fergie that.
Then when he plays there, he says number 10 is his best position. The same media calling for him to be striker now saying he should be number 10.
He's just not very good at both. I rather get Ibrahimovic. He may lack pace, but physically and technique wise he is miles ahead of Rooney. Rooney can't even win a header. Even Richards, who isn't the tallest CB was out jumping him.
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They were on his right foot then. Left foot right here, and his left foot is apparently shite
Absolutely woeful today. I can see why LVG hasn't got in another striker based on the severe lack of quality out there, but he has contributed so very little in all our league games so far.
Kane isn't scoring, but he's involved in the games. The other players play off him. I'd kill for that right now. Look at Gomis.
The team can't play off him. We have no focal point.
As for that missed opportunity. Well that's just not acceptable. Didn't have Walker to knock it in for him this time.
The team can't play off him. We have no focal point.
As for that missed opportunity. Well that's just not acceptable. Didn't have Walker to knock it in for him this time.
His pass that led to the equaliser was even worse imo.
I really want to call him every name under the sun right now, but then I remember what he's actually done for the club and the fact it's not really his fault that he won't be substituded/benched despite being incredibly poor, even by his standards. He's at Bébé's level. He's comfortably one of the best players I've seen for the club but he's also fast becoming one of the worst. We have really put ourselves in the worst thinkable situation regarding Rooney.
..And the Everton's fans seem to hate Naismith for some reasonJust think about it, his contract would have ended last summer..Ah, then we would definitely have been forced to improve ourselves..
That chance at the end he created when he brought it down and powered past the last man was quality but he just didnt shoot as he thought he had more time. Very disappointing as hes always done it for us but it looks more like hes slipping into a very fast decline.
Watching him is quite sickening at present and I really would prefer him to be sold before Hernandez.
A lot of comments in this thread might be criticised as disrespectful and knee-jerk, but when you've treated the club as he has done and are being paid as much as he is, you don't really deserve the benefit of the doubt.
A lot of comments in this thread might be criticised as disrespectful and knee-jerk, but when you've treated the club as he has done and are being paid as much as he is, you don't really deserve the benefit of the doubt.
try not to think of the £40m Chelsea offered too!
He knew exactly how much time he had - how could he not? The issue wasn't underestimating how much time he had, it was having absolutely no confidence to shoot with his left foot. He wanted to open it up on his right foot and sidefoot the shot. Like he does 99% of the time.
Yeah, I agree with that. It's obviously difficult so see on TV, but I noticed him just standing still when there was an open space to run into on more than one occasion today. The one that stood out for me was around the 37th minute-mark or something like that, when Herrera had a shot on goal. One of their central defenders came out to try and block Herrera, which left a huge amount of space behind him in the penalty area. Rooney was standing with his marker on the edge of that area, but he didn't even try to make a run into the open space.
Our attacking play in general is certainly lacking, but Rooney is a big part of this himself - he's not dragging around defenders to create space or anything like that, and whenever he does get a half-chance he never makes the most of it.
..If only..But we are wasting our time..Wayne Rooney is going nowhere..here is to the next 4 years lads..enjoy!Dont get me wrong i think hes been utterly tragic and should have hit it there but he did so well to create that chance. There were plenty of times where i thought he should have just unleashed a powerful hit on target and hoped for the best.
I always say when coaching if your not confident in front of goal and get some space, just put your head down and hit it hard and on target and you will score at least some of the time. Rooney needs to do a bit of that i think just basic shooting on target with power rather than pissing around taking ages.
We are stuck with him for a while, and its looking likely we wont sign a better striker this transfer window, so he will remain our front man.
So perhaps a more useful debate is what does LVG have to do to get the best out of Rooney, given his current capabilities and form?
So perhaps a more useful debate is what does LVG have to do to get the best out of Rooney, given his current capabilities and form?
They would have missed out on Costa as well but I think Jose was just trolling us at the time.
He was a hell of a player for a decade, he just cant lead the line anymore, this isnt a knee jerk, im sure he will get on the scoresheet this season, but honestly, we would look a hell of a lot better with benteke holding the ball up and getting others into play than we do with wayne right now. We need a new striker, and this is coming from someone who actually likes Rooney.
Nothing, hope that he plays out of this form.
I have always backed Rooney but my god he is shit at the moment, to not get a shot off twice was criminal really. We need a striker in his prime if we want to be taken seriously. Rooney's head in that circle is starting to annoy me now. I want him to do well but he isn't.
Stick him behind hernandez and try linking up with either Depay or Mata?
Bench him.
There's not a lot he can do at the moment, you can move Rooney around but that means having to drop a player who's better suited to that position. Taking away the captaincy and buying a striker who can actually compete against him sounds like a drastic move but it will have to be done at some point, impossible to this now as the season has started but I think were in for big changes in the summer.
Ashley Williams be like, kid you have no idea.
Well done, I thought I'll never see this.
Just few more of his hardcore blind fans to go.
I think that sums it up nicely.
If he was paid a meagre wage, we'd swallow it better. But given that this guy is our superstar, our highest paid player, our game-changer. It's galling.
Nothing to be added.
He's at the point in his career where he has lost so much pace and explosiveness that he's randomly vacillating between quality Prem striker and talented pub player.
Offers nothing in the PL. Doesn't have the strength to hold the ball up, or the pace to get in behind.
The Bragge hattrick changes nothing.
The Bragge hattrick changes nothing.
Pretty much this, unfortunately. Looks like Wayne is on his last legs and muscles. Add to that his natural height, and you will see why he is struggling in the EPL.
I'm grateful for everything he's done for the club, but I do believe - like many others - that he's holding the club back.
I'd agree with this. Problem with ROoney is that much of why he was so good in the past was down to that explosivness. He was reliant on it. With this gone what is left?
Even if he wasn't the most gifted technically speaking, he still compensated with crazy energy levels and hunger. Nowadays he's finished physically and mentally.
I think Rooney can still be a valuable attacking player if played with other attackers who compliment him perfectly. But not sure he is good enough to form our whole attack around him.
Evidently, not much.
Probably his finishing, but the lack of everything else means he doesn't get many chances.
Agreed. His finishing is certainly one of his strong points.
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