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The English press will turn against him after Euro2016, they love a scapegoat, and seeing his recent England performances,he'll give them plenty of material.
I dont think they mind him doing poorly at United, even if it cost us points.
I dont think they mind him doing poorly at United, even if it cost us points.
What did they say about him on the supplement?
I would think if I were his agent I would encourage him to retire or move to the MLS if anyone will have him. The longer he carries on, the more the value of his 'brand' will plummet. It would be a slow painful demise imo. I've read Rooney places a lot of emphasis on money, so maybe the knowledge that he could do further damage to his image might wake him up. I can't think of anything else as no matter the criticism he won't admit that he is doing anything wrong - it's not how he rolls.
Debating whether he should be a starter and if Hodgson has the balls to drop him, asking would you rather have Rooney or Vardy in your team for the Euros. Then one guy admitted he probably shouldn't currently be in the united lineup
he will be expected to hand in the England armband after the tounament, that would be the right thing to do. Don't think he will go quietly though
Hopefully it encourages more critical voices in the media.
LvG could use the press response as a galvanizing tool on the rest of the team, challenge them to prove the media mongrels wrong and create an us vs them mentality.
Call Collymore on Talksport are asking the question about if Wayne should still be in the United team and if should actually be sold. The media are turning.
The only thing stopping Van Gaal from swinging the axe is his ridiculous statement that 'my Captain shall always play'. Rooney won't destabilize the dressing room because the players he cqn influence are on the way up and won't risk everything to fight in his corner when they stand to benefit enormously from his fall, Smalling will likely be named captain, Jones has his own issues to deal with and Carrick has been around long enough to remember Rooney insulting him and other team mates by questioning the club's ambition back in the day.
He's not bad enough to retire imo.
He could still do a decent job as a premiership player, with his experience too. I dont buy the "He's championship quality " narrative, especially as someone like Jozy Altidore was a premiership striker.
What he isnt good enough to be though, is the undroppable talisman for a club with United's ambitions. There's no shame in that, and I think a lot of fans would accept him if he was actually dropped when he played poorly. As that is impossible, getting rid is the better option.
Agreed. But LVG suddenly seems to have gone soft in his old age
He's gonna be 31 then, quite young to retire from England duty.
So I can see him clinging to his captaincy.
Agreed. But LVG suddenly seems to have gone soft in his old age
That's what he is portraying outwardly yes, but the alternative is the current farce we see with Jose and Costa, he could well be keeping his Rooney stance consistent until he has an opening to get rid of him rather than drop him and suffer issues within the camp his discontent could cause.
I'm sure LVG has said things before and then down a 360 degree turn. I don't think saying my captain shall always play is something that he would be bothered about if he had to change that stance. It's trivial in light of the fact that keep playing Rooney and LVG's arse will be on the line. LVG is human, the survival instinct would kick in, especially in the ruthless world of football. I can only think Rooney must have saved a family member's life as there is no reason to carry on like this. As I said before, I'm completely
he is older than his age and we already have better options, the public will vent. He isn't ageing gracefully
I hope this is the case. But who knows? Like I've said before, I think the team is not mentally strong, and seems like everything gets to them. i've noticed how hesitant they are playing at home now, when they should know the boos are for LVG - not them. Yet they still seem so mentally frail. The circus that Rooney being permanently dropped would cause would certainly affect them irrespective of whether or not they are secretly relieved. At least that's what I think. Again, I really don't know what to think.
For sure he's not. Never been blessed with the body type of Giggs, nor does he have Giggs' professionalism when it came to keeping his body in tip top shape during his playing career.
It will be depressing if England play the second international tournament in a row with a has-been "talisman" captain while someone like Kane or Vardy is on the bench. It wouldn't surprise sadly me given Hodgson's lack of backbone but, if Van Gaal similarly lacks the balls to make a big decision, he has no place in the United dugout.
I find the whole situation bizarre in any event. At United, Rooney is not a local youth team product, supports Everton (which is fair enough) and has tried to leave United at least once. He has also not played consistently like a genuine elite level player since 2011. For England, he has not performed in a major tournament for 11 years. And yet people are tiptoeing around the decision to drop him like it's a discussion on whether to send the Queen to Dignitas.
It'll depend on how England does, only an embarrassing tournament like the 2014 world cup would lead to the public clamoring that badly for senior heads.
Woy likes him too, so there's always that.
One thing is true though, the next 6/7 months are huge for him.
yeah, last world cup there was a debate whether he or Sterling should be the 10. Against Italy Sterling ran riot, Rooney played left and we got ragged on the left hand side. Next game Hodgson bottled it and put Rooney back in the middle. People got sick of Gerrard/Lampard for so long, time to give someone else a turn
I'm not sure if the crowd gets to them or if they are frustrated as they want to respond on the pitch but are afraid of repercussions from LvG. I think dropping Rooney would probably create a huge problem, what I was meaning is sell him and then let the team galvanize without him around at all.
I was actually referring to Gerrard as the has-been captain in Brazil but, as you say, there was definitely an argument for leaving Rooney out of the XI as well. Now that argument has gone from being slightly contentious to blindingly obvious.
I'm not sure that Hodgson's lack of backbone will be the deciding factor; I think the collective nostalgia and hopeful, wishful thinking when it comes to Rooney's form is perhaps the main thing: he burst onto the scene in such a dramatic fashion that people understandably long for the return of that swashbuckling, fearless player even though the signs are far from promising (and, in fact, practically non-existent.) In reality, nobody should be surprised at the current state of play re: Rooney; we signed a steaming hot, fresh pie n' chips typically British footballer...and now we're left with a stale and outdated pie n' chips typically British footballer. So, I suspect that Wayne will keep his places & captaincies unless his form deteriorates to a disastrous level, simply because Roy, LVG and numerous others hope that the new 'old Wayne' will return to replace the current 'old Wayne'. This attitude has little to do with cowardice; it's more to do with a touching sentimentality on one hand and the entire want of pragmatism and common sense on the other. Still, football as a sport isn't exactly renowned for its progressive thinking, and this often costs managers their jobs, as we may well see.
We're fecked.
No one is going to want him when he has yet another terrible international tournament next summer.
We're doomed to have this thing at our club for the next 4 years .....I've no interest in what he has done in the past. If Eric, Giggs, Keane, Vidic, Ince, Stam, Sharpe, Irwin etc etc phoned in performances the way he has done the last 6 months, I'd be going apeshit too.
Football is about the here and now. Think ofthe past for too long and you become stuck there...AKA, Liverpool
No one is going to want him when he has yet another terrible international tournament next summer.
We're doomed to have this thing at our club for the next 4 years
.....I've no interest in what he has done in the past. If Eric, Giggs, Keane, Vidic, Ince, Stam, Sharpe, Irwin etc etc phoned in performances the way he has done the last 6 months, I'd be going apeshit too. Football is about the here and now. Think ofthe past for too long and you become stuck there...AKA, Liverpool
We're fecked.
No one is going to want him when he has yet another terrible international tournament next summer.
We're doomed to have this thing at our club for the next 4 years
Football is about the here and now. Think ofthe past for too long and you become stuck there...AKA, Liverpool
We are a billion dollar business, Rooney will be removed long before his contract is up, people are making him out to be some sort of of cat stroking Bond villain, at the end of the day the media will turn and he'll be given a golden handshake by United and head off to the US.
Hope so. To be honest, I've no time for him since the League Cup game and his behaviour
I think that's where we have been for the last few years - hoping against our better judgement that we will see the old Rooney back (by which I mean the 2010 version rather than the boy wonder). And there was at least some basis for that belief as we saw the occasional glimpse of class - last season for example in his effortless finish away to Arsenal in that smash n' grab result or his impressive all round performance at home to Newcastle - even if it was surrounded by increasing spells of mediocrity. But, after the last 4 months of this season (in which his performances can only be categorised as "disastrous"), surely cold hard logic has to extinguish any remaining sentimentalism towards "the White Pele", even in a sport so prone to romantic guff as football? We are not even talking Torres levels of decline - it's the full Falcao.
I'm sick of the sight of him as well, he just lumbers around arguing with the ref from time to time, in the past when it was merely form you could still rely on maximum effort, these days he looks shagged out after 20 minutes.
Then there are the commercial factors too, of course. Doh.
I think they are overstated at this point as well, wasn't he not even our best merch seller in the latest list that came out?
He'll go back to Everton to see out his career. They'll welcome him back and he'd love to rejoin them.
The armband thing done it for me that night. No time for him since.
Couldn't be anymore like Steven Gerrard if he tried
Devil may care said:
Yeah, maybe so, mate. Though I noticed that Wayne is front-and-centre of the club's 2015 Annual in many book catalogues' children's sections...The Lack-of-Hunger Games might've been a more appropriate title though.
Would Everton be able to afford to pay him even if we gave him a £10M going away present? Plus I don't see him getting in their team these days.
I forgot about that, he took it off whoever had it when he came on, right? Did he actually give it to anyone when he came off yesterday?
First thing he done when he came on that night and the only thing he done, except miss a penalty
I don't know. I didn't see anyone wear it but, I also didn't see him have it on when he came off
I'd trade him for Jennifer Lawrence up front for us as well! I'm sure right now he still figures into anything we do marketing-wise as he's captain and a world name, but the club won't sacrifice success for that money as we stand to lose more continuing as we are than that kind of merch brings in. Man Utd are bigger than any player and I believe the player is made a star by playing for the club in most cases, we can replace him easily enough on posters and books etc...First thing he done when he came on that night and the only thing he done, except miss a penalty
I don't know. I didn't see anyone wear it but, I also didn't see him have it on when he came off
That might have been an even lower point than the Villa and Leicester displays come to think of it.
That remains a mystery then, still haven't seen anything concrete on where the armband went.
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