When a coach of the national team/ex teammate says he is on a decline that is worrying, he's supposed to be our captain and it just seems like he's given up even trying now. He can't even play a five yard sideways pass without giving the ball away, he gets shoved off the ball so easily and doesn't bust a gut to get it back like he used to. He's lost all of his confidence in front of goal now as well which isn't good seeing as we're really struggling in that position.
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Subbing him off is a start.LVG is a human he can't be patient forever even if Rooney was his son.
He's absolutely finished.
That sheepish smirk when he makes mistakes shows he himself is embarrassed with how he's playing. Please put him out of his misery and get rid.
He's so painfully shit.
I've said it before but I don't think it's a matter of him not making an effort.
I think he's trying as hard as he can and he's still fecking woeful. That's why he's absolutely finished as a top player in my opinion.
I could give everything I had playing for Utd and I'd still be shite. Same as Rooney.
I think he's trying as hard as he can and he's still fecking woeful. That's why he's absolutely finished as a top player in my opinion.
I could give everything I had playing for Utd and I'd still be shite. Same as Rooney.
Could you imagine this Wayne scoring that overhead kick against City. Getting onto the ball against Newcastle despite chipping away at the referee to volley it into the net. I can't.
It's really sad seeing him like this, but he's got falcao written all over him. He's not suddenly going to get back too how he was.
In my eyes his fire has gone, he's playing but he's not hungry anymore. His body doesn't have the same strength it once did, maybe he's not working in the gym like he should do.
It really was summed up when he tried to run passed Fuchs into the box, he dropped his shoulder and then tried to run but just couldn't accelerate, then decided to dive once he thought a challenge would come in. He can't dribble, his short passing and Vision is average, his long range shooting is non existent and his movement is minimal and lack lustre.
If his name wasn't Wayne Rooney, he would probably be gone this January. It's weird as I said under my breathe "jeez I almost wish he got a small injury he's so limiting these days", then he started too hobble
never thought I'd see the day that I would want him out the team, but it needs too happen.
In my eyes his fire has gone, he's playing but he's not hungry anymore. His body doesn't have the same strength it once did, maybe he's not working in the gym like he should do.
It really was summed up when he tried to run passed Fuchs into the box, he dropped his shoulder and then tried to run but just couldn't accelerate, then decided to dive once he thought a challenge would come in. He can't dribble, his short passing and Vision is average, his long range shooting is non existent and his movement is minimal and lack lustre.
If his name wasn't Wayne Rooney, he would probably be gone this January. It's weird as I said under my breathe "jeez I almost wish he got a small injury he's so limiting these days", then he started too hobble
never thought I'd see the day that I would want him out the team, but it needs too happen.Watching the highlights of City's game with Soton, highlights to me a problem with having such a passenger up front. When City are on the attack, players like De Bruyne, Sterling, Aguero are so dangerous that they naturally cause defenders to gravitate towards them, leaving space for other 'competent' players (full-backs, other midfielders) to take advantage of.
Rooney doesn't get this treatment. One player will always do the job against him and sometimes, he pretty much marks himself. Martial is the only striker or forward in general that causes this panic (and it's not going to happen every game if he's having a form dip). Mata gets that swarming treatment a bit at times but not to the same extent I admit.
Rooney isn't the only one not pulling up trees and no one is trying to suggest that but he is comfortably THE WORST up front we have and it's so easy to mark him which is allowing opposition defenders a head start every single match. That's why we need to drop him. I cannot believe that a reserve/u-21 forward couldn't do a better 'job' than him at the moment.
Rooney doesn't get this treatment. One player will always do the job against him and sometimes, he pretty much marks himself. Martial is the only striker or forward in general that causes this panic (and it's not going to happen every game if he's having a form dip). Mata gets that swarming treatment a bit at times but not to the same extent I admit.
Rooney isn't the only one not pulling up trees and no one is trying to suggest that but he is comfortably THE WORST up front we have and it's so easy to mark him which is allowing opposition defenders a head start every single match. That's why we need to drop him. I cannot believe that a reserve/u-21 forward couldn't do a better 'job' than him at the moment.
There's only one way out of this,, the cruel way. No way he's going to hold his hands up and leave by his own accord, not when 50m is guaranteed on the table
He probably thinks he earns it and we are obligated to pay him even if we bench him
I dont think he cares so much about keepimg playing top level either, he'd be 34 by the time the contract ends and he can just retire a legend anyway
He probably thinks he earns it and we are obligated to pay him even if we bench him
I dont think he cares so much about keepimg playing top level either, he'd be 34 by the time the contract ends and he can just retire a legend anyway
Rooney forever! Thanks for the memories.
He really pulled off a big con on the club, his performances are not worthy of 20k a week, what more 200 or 300k/w.
Its problematic to keep him here. For both our sakes(from a non-financial pov), this would be best for both parties.
He can get a fresh start elsewhere, we can finally get a forward of sufficient quality for our stature.
That's the sad part. No one.
On a lighter note.......
Mate of mine on FB posted this...Goes to show that apostrophes are very important...
Mate of mine on FB posted this...Goes to show that apostrophes are very important...
Contract runs until June 2019. That's 183 more weeks. 183 x 300,000 = 54,900,000.
Plus the reported commercial sponsorship rights rolled into the deal, which we don't really know the details of. Apparently he is paid extra for direct involvement with sponsors.
Thought he signed a 5 year contract when Moyes was in charge, ergo, 2.5 years would already have lapsed, but fecking hell.
Yep, my bad Sarni! I was using £300k a month and not a week
I think something has happened behind the scenes already, with him finally being subbed and the recent spate of anti-LVG leaks. I suspect he will be dropped soon.
5.2 average ratings from the caf.... someone must have been jacking his rating by giving him 10, cause I'm sure he got all 3's and 4's mostly
he was subbed only because he was injured. LVG said so after the game, and wanted to take Martial off instead but the injury made his decision
Moyes is the gift the keeps on giving, we are 18 months removed from his shit show here and there are still bombs going off that he planted.
Problem is Van Gaal is still stepping on the land mines instead of defusing them and then doing it again and again.
It's the club's fault, IMO - if they hadn't appointed a manager who'd need propping up via gestures to the fans and senior players, the Rooney extension might not have happened.
I am wondering how it's possible, too. He's been nowhere near a 5/10 player for us this season.
I see we both have him as a 4.1 average for the season. I personally think that's a bit high. 3.5 would be closer to the mark. Would you agree?
I would definitely love to know the truth behind why he wont drop Rooney, some say he's not the sole problem for our crappy attack which is true, but removing him would be a step in the right direction.
True, we appointed Fergie's replacement for all the wrong reasons and we are still paying for the board's lack of exerting control of that and allowing too many old heads to have their say.
Once we drop him and make it clear that he is no longer our first choice he will find himself a new club, the wages on offer there won't be our concern. A player of his ego is very easy to get rid of.
If you look at his lowest rated game, he got a 5.2 in that. That's not even the Villa match, it's the league cup against 'Boro.
Yep, probably. After all, we're discussing a player who answered SAF's - and his coaches' - statement that he (Rooney) wasn't doing enough by claiming that he was.
The graph seems to show something different... Either way, I think a bunch of Rooney fan boys are padding his numbers after every game. It feels like a split in the club between those who are objective and those who will never criticise the guy.
You do realise he won't leave? Why would he leave a 300k contract for a 70k one unless we pay it off in full first?
He effectively put in a transfer request when he was dropped for the Madrid game and got moved into midfield when he came back. A few months out and he will be gone just like that. He is not the strongest mentally so I doubt if he would be able to out bluff the club on this one.
Park him in the reserves. He'll be desperate to remain the England captain and will take a pay cut at another club. We'll most likely end up having to give him away to the MLS, who will hopefully pay him a higher wage than they would normally as a result.
If it becomes clear that he is no longer first choice do you think he has the mental strength to sit it out for the next three years being ridiculed a la Torres for that period? He won't accept that he's done at this level that easily and will seek a move to prove the doubters wrong, if he is dropped in the next few weeks and fails to regain his spot he will be gone in January 2017.
The club needs to make a decision on this earlier than later. Let's face it, it's almost 90% sure that he's not coming back to an acceptable level, so whether or not they want to - the club will have to get rid. Brace yourselves though, the circus around Liverpool or Rodgers when he tried to freeze out Stevie G will be nothing compared to what will happen with Rooney. Be total bedlam and I don't trust him not to create tension in the dressing room, not to mention the madness in the press, constant leaks etc etc. Maybe that's why LVG is indulging him (nothing else makes sense). The club and the team is still shaky from coming down from the high of being certain of top four to now being vulnerable. It would be one more distraction that I don't think the current team has the mentality to deal with imo.
I find this talk of Rooney's influence being so big that a dressing room that has BFS, Carrick, De Gea and Smalling will be swayed by his attempts to destabilize the ship. Some of them will benefit from his fall; BFS and Smalling the captaincy, Herrera more playing time whilst other forwards would get to play without him hindering their moves, I think the whole dressing room would find LVG's case more acceptable than a has been that's been holding them back. The press would be an obvious problem but if Van Gaal is factoring in the press on team selection then I'm afraid we have the wrong guy steering the ship, he has to go.
It will be like nothing we have ever seen before. But its worth it.
We need to do this now, another season of this too much . Nothing he's shown in the last 3 years consistently is worth 300k.
in recent weeks LVG has said he is sick of answering questions on Rooney. I'm not sure where the backlash would come from, everyone can see he is below par and want him accountable for it. Even on Sunday supplement this morning, they couldn't defend him anymore club and country
if an underperforming and overpaid player leaves us then good for us.
Not for one moment I believe LVG factors in the press - let's face it, if he did then he wouldn't continue with this playing style, after the abuse he gets from the press and people close to the club. I myself would think the players would be relieved - that seems logical. But am actually not so sure. Chicarito was not performing for us when he came back from Madrid - yet there were talks that players were 'unhappy' about his treatment - even if at the time he wasn't actually performing to the benefit of the team. I know his situation is different, but it seems like footballers have a different set of rules that they live by. I don't know, everything about this seems odd to me. LVG demands perfection, yet he's indulging the worst performer in the team. This does my head in because no matter which way I turn it over in my mind, I can't find the logic for this decision. So Rooney must have some kind of influence. What it is I don't know because it defies logic...
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