Apparently it takes minutes, no sweat at all. Let's face it, women are tougher. The shite they go through in the name of beauty
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Apparently it takes minutes, no sweat at all. Let's face it, women are tougher. The shite they go through in the name of beauty
But not tougher than our Wayne, theoretically.
Be nice if he showed it out on the pitch...
Something when his eyebrows are more interesting than his football.
The absolute state of it
Bloody hell, his contract extension got to be the daftest thing the club ever did.Maybe there was a beauty clause in it, that's why he's having all this work done.The absolute state of it
Judging by those photos, there's not much chance of them being dropped either.
Wouldn't surprise me
Our club is bloody nuts. Always do things the hard way - why I love UnitedI was stood pretty much behind where he was warming up before the game yesterday, and was watching the drill where a few of the players play a few short passes and cross it in to Rooney. The amount of times he shinned it wide (from about 8 yards with no goalkeeper) was ridiculous. It was laughable, but worrying at the same time that he was about to lead our attack. He's absolutely finished, of that there is surely no argument now.
What was the reaction from the other players?
If he's like this in training too I wonder what the other players think of him.
Hodgson will get sacked after Euro 16, so with a new manager it might not be in his hands to cling on to.
Yep. Was evident more then ever yesterday and I think Gary Neville realized that too. We get in a lot of very good positions, and are solid throughout, have very good possession. But that clinical pass, the final ball, final piece of decision making whether it's a cross or cut back, or even pass before the last easy pass, is absolutely woeful. Most of the time the players just don't even attempt it. Our wingers pick up the ball in great positions, 1 v 1, and just turn back the vast majority of the time and recycle the ball. Or just over hit the cross or hit the first man. You look at the other top teams, and compare their final ball with ours, and it's absolutely worlds apart. That's a big reason our attack isn't working I think. Van Gaal has a very functional style, but our wingers are wank. Like mid table quality.
Memphis is young, adapting to the league, and while he was a good, consistent goalscorer for PSV last season, he was by all accounts still inconsistent. Young does the same thing always and has been our most reliable winger even though his final ball is shocking. Valencia the same, always hits the first defender. Lingard gets in so many good opportunities but ruins what feels like over 90% of them with a bad extra touch, or just bad pass. Mata can't beat a man and doesn't put really put crosses in, or useful ones. He's class on form, and that's why we were actually scoring in September when he was, but he's more the man to pass before the final pass as he does give it to wingers in good positions often. Our fullbacks bar Blind when he played there are hopeless with the timing of their overlapping runs and delivery. Rojo has a good cross on him but he's a center back at the end of the day playing left back.
Compare our wingers/fullbacks attacking wise to Arsenal, City, Bayern, Barca, Madrid... That's where the biggest difference is I think. Arsenal have Sanchez, Monreal on the left, Bellerin and then Ozil drifting around. All are very good attacking wise and have very good decision making and create loads of chances for them. City have Silva drifting, De Bruyne who is very reliable with his final ball, Kolarov who has a great left foot, and Sagna who is a good crosses at right back. Barca, Bayern and Madrid are obviously streets ahead in this regard.
United in the past had Giggs, Nani, Valencia (on form), Evra, Rafael, Ronaldo, Beckham, Neville, and then players like Young as the back up who we were all frustrated with, but is now our best winger. Shaw played a big part for us but he unfortunately broke his leg. He was one of the only ones in terms of the players who play wide to consistently be a threat that could fit in with the others in our past or other top teams. Martial on the wing is also capable of it, with memphis having the potential but still being to young/inconsistent for now.
He looks like what would happen if Biffa bacon and simon Weston had a baby!
Couldn't really make it out mate because they obviously just turned around and did the drill again, plus couldn't see their faces from the stands, but the Leicester fans found it hilarious! Looking past the comedy of it, and I know it was only the warm up, but it really showed where he is at the moment.
There were a few guys yesterday saying that the players think that his legs have gone and he trains like a 40 year old. Tbh it was probably just a bunch of lads pretending they were in the know and I don't really believe any of the 'my mates got a contact in the club etc etc', but at the same time you would think that the players probably have the same opinion as we do but probably even more so seeing as they see him close up day in, day out.
Survived after that disastrous world cup, but his decent qualification process may save his skin.
I came on here to give Rooney a bit of stick but after reading the last couple of pages I decided to leave it.
Poor lad.
Poor lad.
Think he'll need to get to the semis to survive. Rooney should retire from Internationals and let the younger lads take over but I can't see it happening.
Hodgson says he will leave if not wanted
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/32926371
This is the Rooney thread, lets stay on topic.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/32926371
This is the Rooney thread, lets stay on topic.
good post....you wonder about Januzaj....he wasn't always productive and his decision making wasn't great but at least he took a man on.....think that's why Lingard has made an impact - his first instinct isn't to recycle the ball
Our best periods of attacking play in the last two matches were when he wasn't on the pitch.
Out for three weeks apparently. (Getting his eyebrows done again probably)
Captain's armband to be left vacant in his honour until he returns (Probably)
Captain's armband to be left vacant in his honour until he returns (Probably)
If he really is out for 3 weeks it will at least be a chance to sort out how much of our shitty attacking play is him and how much is LvG's methods.
If he really is out for 3 weeks it will at least be a chance to sort out how much of our shitty attacking play is him and how much is LvG's methods.
Make the most of it because, he'll come straight back into the team after 3 weeks and the whole "he has to play himself back into form" crap will come into play
Oh yeah, for Christmas Rooney will be getting a fresh excuse for his awful performances.
More than anything about his game, it's Rooney dropping deeper and deeper that really annoys me. No idea if he is under instruction to do this but it's so infuriating, we don't need him back there and he does nothing useful.
He is so slow on the turn I genuinely can't think of a position that suits him anymore, his flaws are exposed whether he plays No 9, 10, or 6/8 as he seems to do a lot. His first thought these days is on how to hold onto the ball, rather than how he can use the ball in an attacking sense.
He is so slow on the turn I genuinely can't think of a position that suits him anymore, his flaws are exposed whether he plays No 9, 10, or 6/8 as he seems to do a lot. His first thought these days is on how to hold onto the ball, rather than how he can use the ball in an attacking sense.
Nothing performance from Rooney. It's really sad to see how much he's regressed. The guy looks absolutely gassed and seems to have very little left in the tank these days. It's not even as if he's a threat but manages to mess things up every time in the final third. He genuinely is a non entity fairly consistent these days. I can't see any other option for us than to let him go at the end of the season. The club can't afford to keep carrying him.
If he's injured it would be a real shame if Herrera is also out. Would love to see Herrera behind Martial given a good run for a few weeks.
If he's injured it would be a real shame if Herrera is also out. Would love to see Herrera behind Martial given a good run for a few weeks.
Absolutely no one is paying anything for Rooney. Look how we struggled to offload Nani. Rooney's on twice as much as least.
It's sad that it has come to this situation. Hope he leaves United in good terms.
Just not good enough. The sooner he is benched the better
He's is of the most marketable names/faces in the sport. So if someone were to sign him there's the benefit of that. But yeah the issue is the wages he's on. No ones going to want to pay him anywhere near that. What a mess we've got into with that contract. I wish Jose hasn't gone for Falcao and Rooney was his "I can bring out the old player this guy used to be" mission instead.
Forget who's writing it, just read it.
Looks like there was some sort of gentleman's agreement to protect Rooney until Keano broke it. Why has it taken this long for him to get criticism in the media?
can you link it pal, as I'm at work and can't see the tweet.
Here's the article, mate:
I watched Wayne Rooney against Leicester on Saturday and without doubt there are several issues about the way he’s playing at the moment which should cause concern for Manchester United.
1. He’s not getting in behind defenders at all with his runs.
2. He’s creating virtually nothing when he drops off.
3. The energy and graft which kept him in sides when neither of the above were happening wasn’t there either.
United fans now know it, they see it and they are right to question it.
Legend
Why though, when the lad is a club legend , has won so much and will break the club record for goals?
Because he’s holding the team back currently, and if there was a straight swap with a striker or a number 10 who currently is recognised as one of the world’s best, United could win the title. It’s that simple.
Add the wise words of Sir Alex Ferguson which he repeated regularly; “no player is bigger than the club,” and the whole Rooney affair smacks of a player getting a game because of his name. That isn’t fair but more importantly…
…a penny for the thoughts of the players shifted around or not in the team because of the presence of the captain?
England Competition
I’m a Rooney fan, and as an England fan I appreciate his efforts at a time of change. From the “Golden generation,” to the cupboard being bare, to a few shoots of recovery recently. But even now at international level with Harry Kane scoring, Sterling putting in City performances, Sturridge finally back fit and Vardy breaking records, are we really going to suggest a man leads us into Euro 2016 ahead of those guys because of past glories?
We have even got into the situation in the media whereby when Rooney scores, the automatic headline is “HE’S BACK.” We all salivate how the deluge of goals are coming to stick a V up to those who dared doubt him.
But those goals from 4 or 5 years ago have dried up in truth. We comfort ourselves with “He can play as a 10, yes definitely a 10” and convince ourselves there is still plenty for him to offer. But he has shown nothing other than a little running around, the odd drilled pass wide and that’s it! That’s what 300k a week buys you!
I’d even suggest that if Rooney wasn’t an Englishman but playing as he is now, a bit like Angel Di Maria recently, he’d have been shown the door in double quick time.
Bench Time
Look, I am a Rooney fan, but the reality is for whatever reason he just isn’t doing it. I think he’s just got a lot of football miles on the clock and his football age, because of his longevity, is late 30’s. And in a season where his stats alone could be the difference between winning the title and not, it would be remiss of Van Gaal not to at least do his star striker a favour and stick him on the bench for a spell to see if he reacts.
If he doesn’t, then like Beckham, Stam, Keane and co., the cruel reality of great management needs to say one simple thing to Rooney.
You’re a club legend, but it’s time for you to go.
1. He’s not getting in behind defenders at all with his runs.
2. He’s creating virtually nothing when he drops off.
3. The energy and graft which kept him in sides when neither of the above were happening wasn’t there either.
United fans now know it, they see it and they are right to question it.
Legend
Why though, when the lad is a club legend , has won so much and will break the club record for goals?
Because he’s holding the team back currently, and if there was a straight swap with a striker or a number 10 who currently is recognised as one of the world’s best, United could win the title. It’s that simple.
Add the wise words of Sir Alex Ferguson which he repeated regularly; “no player is bigger than the club,” and the whole Rooney affair smacks of a player getting a game because of his name. That isn’t fair but more importantly…
…a penny for the thoughts of the players shifted around or not in the team because of the presence of the captain?
England Competition
I’m a Rooney fan, and as an England fan I appreciate his efforts at a time of change. From the “Golden generation,” to the cupboard being bare, to a few shoots of recovery recently. But even now at international level with Harry Kane scoring, Sterling putting in City performances, Sturridge finally back fit and Vardy breaking records, are we really going to suggest a man leads us into Euro 2016 ahead of those guys because of past glories?
We have even got into the situation in the media whereby when Rooney scores, the automatic headline is “HE’S BACK.” We all salivate how the deluge of goals are coming to stick a V up to those who dared doubt him.
But those goals from 4 or 5 years ago have dried up in truth. We comfort ourselves with “He can play as a 10, yes definitely a 10” and convince ourselves there is still plenty for him to offer. But he has shown nothing other than a little running around, the odd drilled pass wide and that’s it! That’s what 300k a week buys you!
I’d even suggest that if Rooney wasn’t an Englishman but playing as he is now, a bit like Angel Di Maria recently, he’d have been shown the door in double quick time.
Bench Time
Look, I am a Rooney fan, but the reality is for whatever reason he just isn’t doing it. I think he’s just got a lot of football miles on the clock and his football age, because of his longevity, is late 30’s. And in a season where his stats alone could be the difference between winning the title and not, it would be remiss of Van Gaal not to at least do his star striker a favour and stick him on the bench for a spell to see if he reacts.
If he doesn’t, then like Beckham, Stam, Keane and co., the cruel reality of great management needs to say one simple thing to Rooney.
You’re a club legend, but it’s time for you to go.
its not that big an issue if its just united suffering, its a good talking point. But with the Euros its means England...
Keane was first person to have the balls to be blunt about it
thanks pal.
I just think journalists, newspapers and pundits don't want to be seen as barraging Englands captain.
How Neville tried to sidestep his decline when Martin Tyler brought it up was sad to see.
How Neville tried to sidestep his decline when Martin Tyler brought it up was sad to see.
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