Wayne Rooney image 10

Wayne Rooney England flag

2015-16 Performances


View full 2015-16 profile

5.6 Season Average Rating
Appearances
41
Goals
15
Assists
6
Yellow cards
5
Status
Not open for further replies.
He is bigger diver than Young these days, yet I don't see anyone mentioning that, while media destroys Young for every diving attempt.
 
We clearly aren't gong to be terminating his contract ffs. When does that ever happen with one of the main players at a top club? Let alone the fact that we wouldn't ever pay 35million pounds to do so.
Our only hope is some oil rich club is stupid enough good to make an offer. Unfortunately, that's highly unlikely. We are stuck with him for a while yet, and what's worse is our manager refuses to drop him when it's so painfully obvious that he's past it.
 
I think the big problem for the club is that Rooney is the "face of United" commercially - has been since Ronaldo left, and they haven't got a replacement within the club. They tried to bring in a new one in the summer (Muller, Bale, Neymar) but failed so I think we are stuck with Rooney until we can replace him in this role

This is what I also think is the case. Rooney wont go until we can get someone else who can do this, the problem is getting that player (Like you say Muller, Bale, Naymar) to leave there clubs for ours.
 
The problem is FFP has forced the oil clubs to invest wisely even if they spend a lot of money.
I honestly think it's part of the reason why the club is so desperate to play him into form. From an economic point of view, they may think they have to make him work.
 
I feel like my 5.9 rating is being too kind on him. Another awful performance. He just kills any attacking intent we have (which is very little to begin with). Also the media are doing a good job of ignoring that dive. As someone above said, if Young or a foreign player had done that they would be copping it.
 
We should be looking for replacements for him now, get the replacement in the summer and him out.
 
It's bad when you look at his performances and consider he's a Manchester United player.

It's completely and utterly unacceptable when you look at his performances and consider he's meant to be our start player / talisman / best player.
 
If you took away the name he wouldn't start for any side in the league on this form.
 
We should be looking for replacements for him now, get the replacement in the summer and him out.
I don't think he's going anywhere anytime soon. No one will pay a fee and his wages and I don't see the club just leaving him go. He's here until the last year of his contract, imo.
 
Time to cut our loses. We'd be paying his wages either way, at least drop him so we dont lose money and pts and hairs at the same time.

Better to lost 1 then lost 3, he really offers nothing else at the moment
 
He doesn't want it, he wants the captaincy, the fame, the living in england, the club records, he wants everything.

He can say no to moving and still got the wage for the next 3 years

So take the Captaincy off him and sit him on the bench, he'd soon change his mind.
 
Where are folks getting their £35m figure from? Even at £300k per week for +-3 years, it's about £11m?

Contract runs until June 2019. That's 183 more weeks. 183 x 300,000 = 54,900,000.

Plus the reported commercial sponsorship rights rolled into the deal, which we don't really know the details of. Apparently he is paid extra for direct involvement with sponsors.

article-2564990-1BB6CAA200000578-586_634x393.jpg
 
This guy captaining Manchester United is a fecking joke. (Unless he's a fecking star in training and in the locker room.)
 
Contract runs until June 2019. That's 183 more weeks. 183 x 300,000 = 54,900,000.

Plus the reported commercial sponsorship rights rolled into the deal, which we don't really know the details of. Apparently he is paid extra for direct involvement with sponsors.

His basic wage is not 300k. That's with all bonuses included which clearly he is not activating much atm. I would estimate his basic to be around 200-220k.
 
Serious question... Can United buy out his contract?

How much would you pay to have him go away?

United will not win (and I mean the league or the champions league) with him in the line up.
 
One scenario i find interesting is that if you were Roy at this moment in time... how on earth could you justify having Rooney start over Vardy and Kane?
 
One scenario i find interesting is that if you were Roy at this moment in time... how on earth could you justify having Rooney start over Vardy and Kane?
Its an absolute ball buster, and a similar position to Van Gaal right now. Rooney is the most senior face in the dressing room of club and country and his voice holds a hell of a lot of weight to the point where the cost of dropping him for a superior player has to outway the potential cost of him causing a big rift in both squads. we've seen how important dressing room moral is in sport.

Not that im advocating it at all but the only realistic solution would be an unfortunate long termish injury which would negate the choice having to be made in the first place.
 
"Vardy now has 14 Premier League goals for the season, a figure Rooney needs the past 15 months to reach".
:lol:
 
One scenario i find interesting is that if you were Roy at this moment in time... how on earth could you justify having Rooney start over Vardy and Kane?
He can't justify it, and he either doesn't have a choice or he's deluded as every Rooney supporter in the media.
 
I think the big problem for the club is that Rooney is the "face of United" commercially - has been since Ronaldo left, and they haven't got a replacement within the club. They tried to bring in a new one in the summer (Muller, Bale, Neymar) but failed so I think we are stuck with Rooney until we can replace him in this role
I agree that this is likely to be a serious consideration, But we are a FOOTBALL club,and not just another business. Its sad that probably counts for quite a lot.

A poorly performing Rooney hurts both his brand and ours though.
 
Yeah. It would be best for all if he went on loan in January to a team that plays better, more open football and needs a striker since in such a situation Rooney's finishing would probably be enough for him to still be sort of useful. We'd pay some, they'd pay most.

Then in the summer he can go for a last big paycheque in America or somewhere else, or join Everton or do something else for fun at a massive financial loss.
We simply do not have the numbers in attack for that though, so i'd keep him and bring an extra foward or two.

What would help us get rid would be dropping him imo. Gerrard at Pool left after that had happened to him, Rooney has shown in the past is that he gets restless when benched, perhaps that could be the trigger for us.
 
Rooney, still has about £35m left on his contract. Even we can't afford to pay someone those figures to terminate a contract. I cannot fathom the Glazers sanctioning that.
They've sanctioned quite a lot in recent times, and they do trust Ed quite a lot for such big decisions.he's their guy.

I dont think we'll have to pay Rooney for all of his contract, just the shortfall . Chelsea paid 10 mil to get AVB, then paid 15 mil to get rid,sometimes you just have to grind your teeth through it. Cause either way, this will cost us money.
 
Pretty sure if we make it clear that he won't get many games here, him and his greedy agent will find a club. If not a transfer, I'm sure some Italian side would love a loan to buy. Those Milan clubs love themselves a geezer.
 
He isnt going anywhere.
If he doesnt get the record this season, he'll linger around till he does.
And if he does get it, he will score enough to get another season.

Either way, he isnt leaving anytime soon
 
I don't think he's going anywhere anytime soon. No one will pay a fee and his wages and I don't see the club just leaving him go. He's here until the last year of his contract, imo.

If he just wants money, then yes. At the very least we could bench him and play better players. Hopefully he'll be willing to take a paycut or go to the MLS if he's not getting games here.
 
Pretty sure if we make it clear that he won't get many games here, him and his greedy agent will find a club. If not a transfer, I'm sure some Italian side would love a loan to buy. Those Milan clubs love themselves a geezer.
This, people forget who we are talking about here, Rooney doesn't have the mental strength to sit out a few weeks without throwing his toys out of the pram. I think there might still be time for the January window if we drop him now.
 
This, people forget who we are talking about here, Rooney doesn't have the mental strength to sit out a few weeks without throwing his toys out of the pram. I think there might still be time for the January window if we drop him now.
This really rings true and is in stark contrast to several of his own teammates, past and present (RvP and Ander are two that immediately come to mind).
 
Where are folks getting their £35m figure from? Even at £300k per week for +-3 years, it's about £11m?
How? There are more than 4 weeks in every month and 52 weeks in a year. To earn £11m in 3 years he'd have to be making £300k a MONTH and that translates into £70k a week. Not a chance Rooney is on that low.
 
We can easily afford to pay out the remaining contract . If the club wants to, it will. Especially with the windfall from the new premier league deal.

I'd prefer a Keane like exit. Swift and unexpected.

Yep agreed. The amount of money coming in from tv now is insane and if Rooney is deemed surplus it's relatively buttons to pay him off.

One thing is for sure if I was Pep Guardiola and I was being sized up for the manager's role I think I'd be saying "OK I'm in but I won't be needing Wayne Rooney - deal with it please"
 
Status
Not open for further replies.