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2015-16 Performances


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5.6 Season Average Rating
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The funny thing about Rooney is, he manages to look terrible in contrast to his team mates, who were not necessarily lighting things up out there. Would he have glided pass people like Martial did on a few occasion, would he have done the double touch thing Schweinsteiger did towards the end of the game, would he have managed that flick/back heel pass Memphis made for Young?

He was just not anywhere close to resembling a Premier League footballer, let alone one who captains the one of the bigger clubs in the league.

Correct. Also in a team where we have 3 players that are tasked solely with the attacking side of our game (Rooney, Martial & Mata), having one who is completely ineffectual in every respect isn't just one bad performance, if effects everything.

Imagine if De Gea couldn't catch the ball or Smalling couldn't head a ball... It wouldn't just be a bad performance, it would cost us game after game. Attackers are the same even though it's much more subtle. Rooney not being able to pass, shoot or control the ball has far reaching consequences.

You can blame the lack of chances, but when one third of the people tasked with creating those chances are playing like they've won a competition...
 
Surely the Rooney issue will be addressed in the summer, if not in January. At the moment we just don't really have a lot of good alternatives.

I wonder how Rooney will exit - phased out of the team gradually like Stevie Me or a clean break and leaving the club soon?
 
Correct. Also in a team where we have 3 players that are tasked solely with the attacking side of our game (Rooney, Martial & Mata), having one who is completely ineffectual in every respect isn't just one bad performance, if effects everything.

Imagine if De Gea couldn't catch the ball or Smalling couldn't head a ball... It wouldn't just be a bad performance, it would cost us game after game. Attackers are the same even though it's much more subtle. Rooney not being able to pass, shoot or control the ball has far reaching consequences.

You can blame the lack of chances, but when one third of the people tasked with creating those chances are playing like they've won a competition...
Alot of members on here don't seem to grasp this.

It always goes back on Van Gaal for why Rooney is so poor. Forgetting that Rooney is one of the players (given his position on the pitch) tasked with creating chances. Van Gaal is a nightmare at the moment but the Rooney issue is totally separate as far as his performances go.

Nevermind the fact he constantly demands the ball and drops deep (stupidly) to get it if it's not coming to him.
 
Hes only a year older than Vardy as well. He gets worse every game, his first touch is so good that his second is a tackle and we play better without him in the team with his predictable "OMG what an awesome ball out to the wing" style.
 
Forgetting that Rooney is one of the players (given his position on the pitch) tasked with creating chances.
Exactly. People defend him by saying we don't create any chances but he is one of the players supposed to be creating them!
 
Surely the Rooney issue will be addressed in the summer, if not in January. At the moment we just don't really have a lot of good alternatives.

I wonder how Rooney will exit - phased out of the team gradually like Stevie Me or a clean break and leaving the club soon?

No way any top club would take him given his wages, it would all be down to Rooney and whether he fancies a new challenge in America, Qatar, or China, I would say no, and he'll see out his contract with us, so once again Rooney has all the power.
 
His performances are laughable. 300k a week, holy fecking sweet Moses. I am in the wrong business. :lol:
 
No way any top club would take him given his wages, it would all be down to Rooney and whether he fancies a new challenge in America, Qatar, or China, I would say no, and he'll see out his contract with us, so once again Rooney has all the power.
We can easily afford to pay out the remaining contract . If the club wants to, it will. Especially with the windfall from the new premier league deal.

I'd prefer a Keane like exit. Swift and unexpected.
 
I think it depends which striker we try to sign next summer. We spent this summer trying to get Muller which was unrealistic, if we bring in a striker or two to compliment Martial next year Rooney's days could be numbered. When the press turn on him after the Euros he might want to go somewhere new anyway.
 
No way any top club would take him given his wages, it would all be down to Rooney and whether he fancies a new challenge in America, Qatar, or China, I would say no, and he'll see out his contract with us, so once again Rooney has all the power.
We need the Glazers and Ed to wake up and realise that we're going nowhere with him. They will just have to bite the bullet and pay him off. Part of the problem is that even though Moyes sanctioned his contract extension, Woodward was the one who approved it. I'm not sure he fancies explaining himself to shareholders and Glazers if we have to pay out such a huge fee to get rid of Wayne. I wonder if this is the real problem. Maybe LVG's loyalty is not to Rooney but to Ed?
 
Alot of members on here don't seem to grasp this.

It always goes back on Van Gaal for why Rooney is so poor. Forgetting that Rooney is one of the players (given his position on the pitch) tasked with creating chances. Van Gaal is a nightmare at the moment but the Rooney issue is totally separate as far as his performances go.

Nevermind the fact he constantly demands the ball and drops deep (stupidly) to get it if it's not coming to him.
I'd get rid of both.

Wayne Rooney's performances for England haven't been good for at least a year or so now. And they have a completely different philosophy to the one United have. Rooney's problems go far more than Van Gaal.
 
We need the Glazers and Ed to wake up and realise that we're going nowhere with him. They will just have to bite the bullet and pay him off. Part of the problem is that even though Moyes sanctioned his contract extension, Woodward was the one who approved it. I'm not sure he fancies explaining himself to shareholders and Glazers if we have to pay out such a huge fee to get rid of Wayne. I wonder if this is the real problem. Maybe LVG's loyalty is not to Rooney but to Ed?
He could convince them to sell ADM for a loss after just one season.

Woodward helped the Glazers in their 2005 buyout, he's a trusted ally, and I doubt that would change because of this Rooney issue.
 
He could convince them to sell ADM for a loss after just one season.

Woodward helped the Glazers in their 2005 buyout, he's a trusted ally, and I doubt that would change because of this Rooney issue.
I guess so but we would lose far more money paying Rooney off than we did in the ADM deal. I mean £300K a week for the next 3.5 years? We could find a buyer for ADM, but we won't find a buyer for Rooney. We'd make absolutely nothing back. That to me is a different scenario. But who knows really.
 
I guess so but we would lose far more money paying Rooney off than we did in the ADM deal. I mean £300K a week for the next 3.5 years? We could find a buyer for ADM, but we won't find a buyer for Rooney. We'd make absolutely nothing back. That to me is a different scenario. But who knows really.
Think of it another way.

Keep a struggling Rooney as a guaranteed starter for the next 3 years, and I cant see us challenging the big teams especially in Europe.

The contract and its length, were a terrible business decision, but they are a sunk cost.
 
Think of it another way.

Keep a struggling Rooney as a guaranteed starter for the next 3 years, and I cant see us challenging the big teams especially in Europe.

The contract and its length, were a terrible business decision, but they are a sunk cost.
Makes sense. So I guess we just wait for Ed and the Glazers to wake up and realise he's not what we need going forward. Hopefully, it won't take too long for this to happen. I hope LVG is playing him all the time to show the money people how much of liability he is... well I can hope as I cannot find any rational argument for this strange love in.
 
Feck sake, that attempt at a cross with the outside of his foot that ended up straight at Schmeichel :lol: :lol: :lol:

That made me laugh, but what really pissed me off was the failure to play a simple 5 yard pass that would have put Mata one on one with the keeper.
 
Feck sake, that attempt at a cross with the outside of his foot that ended up straight at Schmeichel :lol: :lol: :lol:

That made me laugh, but what really pissed me off was the failure to play a simple 5 yard pass that would have put Mata one on one with the keeper.


My personal highlight was a miscontrol (on the left wing) where the ball literally bounced over his head after his first touch.
 
Makes sense. So I guess we just wait for Ed and the Glazers to wake up and realise he's not what we need going forward. Hopefully, it won't take too long for this to happen. I hope LVG is playing him all the time to show the money people how much of liability he is... well I can hope as I cannot find any rational argument for this strange love in.

Its not doing him any favours either, especially when Van Gaal has left him as the only senior striker in the team, with much more games than last season.

I have faith that we'll cut the cord soon, financially it will be a hit, but we should absorb that and move on.
 
Absolute shithouse of a player these days. Wouldn't look out of place in the Championship.

Lets hope his injury keeps him out for the rest of the season.
 
Hopefully he'll have to see a doctor about that knock van Gaal said he was substituted for. If that doctor is a fan, he'll rule him out for the season.
 
That interview from LvG is just infuriating. He really wouldn't of subbed him... Just baffling. The teachers pet thing is unprofessional.
 
I liked the header where it hit him in the face and bounced miles wide.

Or the bit where even his diving was shit.

I honestly don't believe he dived; as soon as it happened I realised his legs just couldn't keep up with his body. His legs have completely gone.
 
So Van Gaal was going to keep him on? :lol::lol:

You have to laugh, its just so ridiculous.
 
At least we know it couldn't have been Rooney that made that comment about being half the player under Van Gaal, at the moment he is nowhere near half the player he used to be more like 5% of the player he used to be.
 
He's absolute sh*te. How can anyone ever defend him? He offers nothing anymore.
 
My overall rating of 4.1 for Rooney this season is too high. How he's averaging 5 out of 10 in the collective wisdom of the caf I just do not know.
 
We can easily afford to pay out the remaining contract . If the club wants to, it will. Especially with the windfall from the new premier league deal.

I'd prefer a Keane like exit. Swift and unexpected.
I think the big problem for the club is that Rooney is the "face of United" commercially - has been since Ronaldo left, and they haven't got a replacement within the club. They tried to bring in a new one in the summer (Muller, Bale, Neymar) but failed so I think we are stuck with Rooney until we can replace him in this role
 
You could see once Memphis came on for him and made that chance for Mata and then almost scored himself that with a better player than Rooney playing the first 70 minutes, we'd have very likely gotten the 2nd goal and the win.

This formation is even worse for him, I think.
 
We can easily afford to pay out the remaining contract . If the club wants to, it will. Especially with the windfall from the new premier league deal.

I'd prefer a Keane like exit. Swift and unexpected.

Yeah. It would be best for all if he went on loan in January to a team that plays better, more open football and needs a striker since in such a situation Rooney's finishing would probably be enough for him to still be sort of useful. We'd pay some, they'd pay most.

Then in the summer he can go for a last big paycheque in America or somewhere else, or join Everton or do something else for fun at a massive financial loss.
 
We can easily afford to pay out the remaining contract . If the club wants to, it will. Especially with the windfall from the new premier league deal.

I'd prefer a Keane like exit. Swift and unexpected.
Rooney, still has about £35m left on his contract. Even we can't afford to pay someone those figures to terminate a contract. I cannot fathom the Glazers sanctioning that.
 
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