Treble
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Imposter of a star player.
The funny thing about Rooney is, he manages to look terrible in contrast to his team mates, who were not necessarily lighting things up out there. Would he have glided pass people like Martial did on a few occasion, would he have done the double touch thing Schweinsteiger did towards the end of the game, would he have managed that flick/back heel pass Memphis made for Young?
He was just not anywhere close to resembling a Premier League footballer, let alone one who captains the one of the bigger clubs in the league.
He doesn't have a single assist so far this season.
Alot of members on here don't seem to grasp this.Correct. Also in a team where we have 3 players that are tasked solely with the attacking side of our game (Rooney, Martial & Mata), having one who is completely ineffectual in every respect isn't just one bad performance, if effects everything.
Imagine if De Gea couldn't catch the ball or Smalling couldn't head a ball... It wouldn't just be a bad performance, it would cost us game after game. Attackers are the same even though it's much more subtle. Rooney not being able to pass, shoot or control the ball has far reaching consequences.
You can blame the lack of chances, but when one third of the people tasked with creating those chances are playing like they've won a competition...
Exactly. People defend him by saying we don't create any chances but he is one of the players supposed to be creating them!Forgetting that Rooney is one of the players (given his position on the pitch) tasked with creating chances.
Surely the Rooney issue will be addressed in the summer, if not in January. At the moment we just don't really have a lot of good alternatives.
I wonder how Rooney will exit - phased out of the team gradually like Stevie Me or a clean break and leaving the club soon?
We can easily afford to pay out the remaining contract . If the club wants to, it will. Especially with the windfall from the new premier league deal.No way any top club would take him given his wages, it would all be down to Rooney and whether he fancies a new challenge in America, Qatar, or China, I would say no, and he'll see out his contract with us, so once again Rooney has all the power.
We need the Glazers and Ed to wake up and realise that we're going nowhere with him. They will just have to bite the bullet and pay him off. Part of the problem is that even though Moyes sanctioned his contract extension, Woodward was the one who approved it. I'm not sure he fancies explaining himself to shareholders and Glazers if we have to pay out such a huge fee to get rid of Wayne. I wonder if this is the real problem. Maybe LVG's loyalty is not to Rooney but to Ed?No way any top club would take him given his wages, it would all be down to Rooney and whether he fancies a new challenge in America, Qatar, or China, I would say no, and he'll see out his contract with us, so once again Rooney has all the power.
I'd get rid of both.Alot of members on here don't seem to grasp this.
It always goes back on Van Gaal for why Rooney is so poor. Forgetting that Rooney is one of the players (given his position on the pitch) tasked with creating chances. Van Gaal is a nightmare at the moment but the Rooney issue is totally separate as far as his performances go.
Nevermind the fact he constantly demands the ball and drops deep (stupidly) to get it if it's not coming to him.
He could convince them to sell ADM for a loss after just one season.We need the Glazers and Ed to wake up and realise that we're going nowhere with him. They will just have to bite the bullet and pay him off. Part of the problem is that even though Moyes sanctioned his contract extension, Woodward was the one who approved it. I'm not sure he fancies explaining himself to shareholders and Glazers if we have to pay out such a huge fee to get rid of Wayne. I wonder if this is the real problem. Maybe LVG's loyalty is not to Rooney but to Ed?
I guess so but we would lose far more money paying Rooney off than we did in the ADM deal. I mean £300K a week for the next 3.5 years? We could find a buyer for ADM, but we won't find a buyer for Rooney. We'd make absolutely nothing back. That to me is a different scenario. But who knows really.He could convince them to sell ADM for a loss after just one season.
Woodward helped the Glazers in their 2005 buyout, he's a trusted ally, and I doubt that would change because of this Rooney issue.
Think of it another way.I guess so but we would lose far more money paying Rooney off than we did in the ADM deal. I mean £300K a week for the next 3.5 years? We could find a buyer for ADM, but we won't find a buyer for Rooney. We'd make absolutely nothing back. That to me is a different scenario. But who knows really.
Makes sense. So I guess we just wait for Ed and the Glazers to wake up and realise he's not what we need going forward. Hopefully, it won't take too long for this to happen. I hope LVG is playing him all the time to show the money people how much of liability he is... well I can hope as I cannot find any rational argument for this strange love in.Think of it another way.
Keep a struggling Rooney as a guaranteed starter for the next 3 years, and I cant see us challenging the big teams especially in Europe.
The contract and its length, were a terrible business decision, but they are a sunk cost.
You guys are so fickle, put him up top and he'll get you 30 goals guaranteed.
Feck sake, that attempt at a cross with the outside of his foot that ended up straight at Schmeichel
That made me laugh, but what really pissed me off was the failure to play a simple 5 yard pass that would have put Mata one on one with the keeper.
Makes sense. So I guess we just wait for Ed and the Glazers to wake up and realise he's not what we need going forward. Hopefully, it won't take too long for this to happen. I hope LVG is playing him all the time to show the money people how much of liability he is... well I can hope as I cannot find any rational argument for this strange love in.
I liked the header where it hit him in the face and bounced miles wide.
Or the bit where even his diving was shit.
Also the M.E.N. is saying LvG has said he will be fit for next game. Sorry to dash hopes.That interview from LvG is just infuriating. He really wouldn't of subbed him... Just baffling. The teachers pet thing is unprofessional.
my favourite was the toepoke cross straight to the keeperI liked the header where it hit him in the face and bounced miles wide.
Or the bit where even his diving was shit.
We're literally playing with 10 men.He's absolute sh*te. How can anyone ever defend him? He offers nothing anymore.
I think the big problem for the club is that Rooney is the "face of United" commercially - has been since Ronaldo left, and they haven't got a replacement within the club. They tried to bring in a new one in the summer (Muller, Bale, Neymar) but failed so I think we are stuck with Rooney until we can replace him in this roleWe can easily afford to pay out the remaining contract . If the club wants to, it will. Especially with the windfall from the new premier league deal.
I'd prefer a Keane like exit. Swift and unexpected.
We can easily afford to pay out the remaining contract . If the club wants to, it will. Especially with the windfall from the new premier league deal.
I'd prefer a Keane like exit. Swift and unexpected.
Rooney, still has about £35m left on his contract. Even we can't afford to pay someone those figures to terminate a contract. I cannot fathom the Glazers sanctioning that.We can easily afford to pay out the remaining contract . If the club wants to, it will. Especially with the windfall from the new premier league deal.
I'd prefer a Keane like exit. Swift and unexpected.