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sunama said:
I wonder what LVG will say about that. He is very quick to criticise all players, except for Rooney... He'll probably tell Martial, that the pass was too heavy.

I noticed on MOTD yesterday, Gullit looked at that. He didnt say it was a good through-ball. He said, "unlucky".
Seconds later, the pundits proceeded to say that our other players are not creating enough chances for Rooney. But Rooney himself, was not criticised.
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His status has elevated him to a position his performances simply don't merit, and I think the arrogance of our manager and Rooney himself is the most bewildering and infuriating thing about it.

It's always somebody else's fault when it comes to Rooney's garbage form; he's been the untouchable golden boy of English football since he became captain of club and country, which is all the more maddening for us, the fans, who know he's shot. The situation is causing me to really dislike him, to the point where I cannot stand the sight of him in a United shirt.
 
sunama said:
I wonder what LVG will say about that. He is very quick to criticise all players, except for Rooney... He'll probably tell Martial, that the pass was too heavy.

I noticed on MOTD yesterday, Gullit looked at that. He didnt say it was a good through-ball. He said, "unlucky".
Seconds later, the pundits proceeded to say that our other players are not creating enough chances for Rooney. But Rooney himself, was not criticised.
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You see the problem in dropping him - carnage in the media when it happens. But it has to be done for the good of the team.
 
Mutter Merkel said:
His status has elevated him to a position his performances simply don't merit, and I think the arrogance of our manager and Rooney himself is the most bewildering and infuriating thing about it.

It's always somebody else's fault when it comes to Rooney's garbage form; he's been the untouchable golden boy of English football since he became captain of club and country, which is all the more maddening for us, the fans, who know he's shot. The situation is causing me to really dislike him, to the point where I cannot stand the sight of him in a United shirt.
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As I didn't get to watch the game, on the Herrera chance - is it true that Martial seemed reluctant to pass to Rooney and waited for Herrera? I just saw someone comment about that under an article.
 
Jazz said:
As I didn't get to watch the game, on the Herrera chance - is it true that Martial seemed reluctant to pass to Rooney and waited for Herrera? I just saw someone comment about that under an article.
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A lot of rubbish
 
Mutter Merkel said:
That gif I posted, alone, makes him the worst player. He is completely finished and all this "he wasn't the worst performer" in (insert game here) is just an attempt to paper over the enormous, hideously-obvious chasm that is our lack of a striker; we have a fatty who has the touch of an elephant trying to lindy hop playing there.
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Think people are going way overboard with Rooney. He's not playing well for a while now and needs dropped but people saying he's finished are way premature imo. Time will tell I guess. You are just being disrespectful at worst and stupid at best.
 
Lawman said:
Think people are going way overboard with Rooney. He's not playing well for a while now and needs dropped but people saying he's finished are way premature imo. Time will tell I guess. You are just being disrespectful at worst and stupid at best.
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Wait, so on the one hand you say time will tell, but on the other hand you say those who think he's finished now are being disrespectful at worst and stupid at best; how about we're right and you're wrong? Is that a possibility? Because if it is, you're the one who's being premature at best and disrespectful at worst.
 
Mutter Merkel said:
Wait, so on the one hand you say time will tell, but on the other hand you say those who think he's finished now are being disrespectful at worst and stupid at best; how about we're right and you're wrong? Is that a possibility? Because if it is, you're the one who's being premature at best and disrespectful at worst.
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It's the level of abuse he is getting. Pub player, fat elephant etc etc come on he's going to be our all time scorer. The level of respect is a joke imo. He's not pulling up trees atm agree but as much as I want him dropped there is a level of opinion that is just not palatable.
 
Lawman said:
It's the level of abuse he is getting. Pub player, fat elephant etc etc come on he's going to be our all time scorer. The level of respect is a joke imo. He's not pulling up trees atm agree but as much as I want him dropped there is a level of opinion that is just not palatable.
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it's not really performances alone that are driving fans up through the wall. he's elevated to the status of being untouchable by the media and by van gaal without having justified the status to be there this season. whenever I've seen him this season I get frustrated to no end , mainly because of his poor decision making.

when other players have a string of bad games they deservedly get dropped so why not rooney.
 
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Lawman said:
It's the level of abuse he is getting. Pub player, fat elephant etc etc come on he's going to be our all time scorer. The level of respect is a joke imo. He's not pulling up trees atm agree but as much as I want him dropped there is a level of opinion that is just not palatable.
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:lol: He is overweight and his legs have definitely gone. The immature comments aren't because of what's happened to his form but the fact he's undroppable and doesn't even get substituted. It's not entirely right, but it really does make me dislike the guy. Really, in fairness, the blame lies with the manager.

Rooney in on goal. Roooneeeeeeeeeeeeeey

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This isn't a fair comparison, I know; he's not as sleek as the horse.
 
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Lawman said:
It's the level of abuse he is getting. Pub player, fat elephant etc etc come on he's going to be our all time scorer. The level of respect is a joke imo. He's not pulling up trees atm agree but as much as I want him dropped there is a level of opinion that is just not palatable.
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Is he? I mean he has a good chance but it's far from a certainty. He could easily come up short this season and get sold during the summer.
 
Lawman said:
It's the level of abuse he is getting. Pub player, fat elephant etc etc come on he's going to be our all time scorer. The level of respect is a joke imo. He's not pulling up trees atm agree but as much as I want him dropped there is a level of opinion that is just not palatable.
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He's a 30 year old man, I'm sure he's been called worse.
 
Mutter Merkel said:


I just keep watching it over and over again. Never in my life have I seen a top-level striker fail to keep up with a perfectly-weighted ball like that; it's absolutely disgraceful and the sheer cheek of Van Gaal to criticise Herrera for missing our "only chance" because he wants to ignore the lump he has up front.
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watch how Martial sets himself up before the pass. Right, left, right, His touch is majestic
 
Mutter Merkel said:


I just keep watching it over and over again. Never in my life have I seen a top-level striker fail to keep up with a perfectly-weighted ball like that; it's absolutely disgraceful and the sheer cheek of Van Gaal to criticise Herrera for missing our "only chance" because he wants to ignore the lump he has up front.
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Clearly Martial's fault. Over hit the pass, poor old Wayne just doesn't get the service thesedays. And any service that is provided, that shithouse Herrera misses. What is Wayne supposed to do? The poor little lamb

If he had better teammates, Rooney would be the best player in the league.
 
Sam said:
Clearly Martial's fault. Over hit the pass, poor old Wayne just doesn't get the service thesedays. And any service that is provided, that shithouse Herrera misses. What is Wayne supposed to do? The poor little lamb

If he had better teammates, Rooney would be the best player in the league.
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I know you're taking the piss but that seriously seems like the narrative that some on the media are trying to take. the numbers might be dwindling as I've recently seen increasing number of articles slating rooney and for good reason.
 
Would be interesting to hear the media excuses if we dropped him and Martial scored two or three. Then the 'create no chances' argument would be even weaker.
 
sunama said:
I noticed on MOTD yesterday, Gullit looked at that. He didnt say it was a good through-ball. He said, "unlucky".
Seconds later, the pundits proceeded to say that our other players are not creating enough chances for Rooney. But Rooney himself, was not criticised.
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WTF is wrong with Gullit? Is he afraid to lose his position as a pundit should he slag Rooney?

ZDwyr said:
Would be interesting to hear the media excuses if we dropped him and Martial scored two or three. Then the 'create no chances' argument would be even weaker.
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But for that to happen, someone out there needs to grow a pair and just drop Rooney without any remorse. Unfortunately, that someone looks to have a hell of a deep hole instead of a pair of cojones.
 
How do the other players feel about being dragged through the mud and blamed for their captain poor performances?
 
Winrar said:
I know you're taking the piss but that seriously seems like the narrative that some on the media are trying to take. the numbers might be dwindling as I've recently seen increasing number of articles slating rooney and for good reason.
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not just the media but Van Gaal too
 
ZDwyr said:
Would be interesting to hear the media excuses if we dropped him and Martial scored two or three. Then the 'create no chances' argument would be even weaker.
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Martial has already scored goals which is makes the whole situation even more bizaare.

LVG even game out after the sunderland game to say how impressed he was and how important martial is as he offers a focal point to attacking which nobody else does.

then he shifts him wide left.

absolutely ridiculous
 
Kakeru said:
WTF is wrong with Gullit? Is he afraid to lose his position as a pundit should he slag Rooney?
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It's not just Gullit. It's fecking everywhere, like a disease. Amount of bollocks spouted by so called 'experts' and 'pundits' is just astonishing. They're doing their utmost to shift the blame away from Rooney on just anybody, players, system, LVG himself while Rooney's the saint one.

NBC commentators pretty much summed it up on Saturday for me. There was some shit cross from Herrera that wouldn't reach anybody, Rooney was in the midfield, Martial was still on the wing and they're blaming Martial for not cutting in to get that cross absolutely omitting 'where the feck is the #9' part. Seconds later, Martial creates that pass for Rooney, he doesn't get to it, 'unlucky', 'keeper's done well', it's just like watching a different match at times.
 
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At the Palace match, I sat and concentrated on where Rooney was. I found him at half line or behind the ball too many times.
 
its quite astonishing.

It has been the case for years now but the last 12 months have just been pathetic.
 
Still confused how he started and still managed to stay on the pitch for the full 90 mins... If he starts AGAIN in Moscow then ive seriously faith in the manager. The guy clearly needs to be dropped to the bench and only bring on in the late stages on the game or not at all. 3 goalless games now... Martial up front is a no brainer.
 
I was watching Sunday Supplement yesterday because I have nothing better to do on a Sunday morning and one of the journalists (Jason Burt, I think) actually had the audacity to suggest that Rooney wasn't playing well. One of the others wasn't having it, of course, and chose to blame everything else but Rooney.
 
Tbf i didnt ecpect pundits to go all out and says something like 'bloody awful, dropped, etc'

They have to be pc, they're being watched all over the world. The best they can come up with is an euphimised 'not good' or 'bad pass' at best.

Nobody is going to get on the record slagging a player, bad for business. Forget rooney, i dont think any pundits ever really slagged anyone iirc.

Let's not forget pundits have to remain netral. Or at least perceived as netral. Saying on the record how shit rooney is will definitely get them in trouble with the editor like it or hate it.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Even weaker? It's not weak to begin with. We create feck all. An issue that is distinct from Rooney's terrible form (although obviously doesn't help it).
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This is something that goes back beyond van Gaal's tenure I think, but you're right. It's a problem that's made worse when Martial plays out wide and so fewer chances fall to him. I watched Barcelona's game at Getafe this weekend and even though they didn't create a massive number of clear cut chances, the difference in play was simply night and day. Plus they were able to put away two of their chances and ran out comfortable 2-0 winners, restricting the home team to pretty much one decent effort all evening.
 
Hammerfell said:
I was watching Sunday Supplement yesterday because I have nothing better to do on a Sunday morning and one of the journalists (Jason Burt, I think) actually had the audacity to suggest that Rooney wasn't playing well. One of the others wasn't having it, of course, and chose to blame everything else but Rooney.
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it was the same the previous week when the female reporter was on. She was the only one saying he isn't playing well and could be dropped for club and country. The 3 other guys scoffed it off saying nah its Wayne Rooney, service, tactics, position letting him down
 


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It's not poor Wayne's fault its the service. There were about 3 chances away to Swansea as well that he should have done better with.
 
Ixion said:


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It's not poor Wayne's fault its the service. There were about 3 chances away to Swansea as well that he should have done better with.
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Wayne Rooney missing simple chances has feck all to do with whether or not we've been creating enough of them. He could have scored every single one of the chances you mention and still be a tier below the league's top-scorers. And no striker scores every single chance they get.
 
It's both, Rooney is finished but we don't make enough chances either.

Martial would be better upfront but when you look at his 3 goals, the Liverpool one he made himself, and one if not both goals at Southampton were because of defensive errors.

I thought Van Persie was awful last season and didn't work hard enough, but I don't remember him missing a bucket load of chances either.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Even weaker? It's not weak to begin with. We create feck all. An issue that is distinct from Rooney's terrible form (although obviously doesn't help it).
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Yeah poor wording on my part. It is not a weak argument, but I think that we would create enough for Martial to be able to score regularly.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Wayne Rooney missing simple chances has feck all to do with whether or not we've been creating enough of them. He could have scored every single one of the chances you mention and still be a tier below the league's top-scorers. And no striker scores every single chance they get.
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Maybe if he wasn't so slow and static we'd create more chances. Martial managed to score a few when being played through the middle.
 
Ixion said:
Maybe if he wasn't so slow and static we'd create more chances. Martial managed to score a few when being played through the middle.
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Only because he didn't miss a single chance. He's scored feck all since those first cluster of goals, though. Because, surprise surprise, he's had feck all chances to score.

Wayne Rooney isn't the only player we should be creating for. There are other players in the team who should be creating and scoring goals too. Blaming our number 9 for this not happening is missing the point.
 
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