that seems to be the level he has dropped to now. He had some stinker moments again, yesterday. But it becomes accepted if he does some standard things to counteract them
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Just because we got used to Rooney's shit performances doesn't mean we will lower our expectations and can judge other players equally... Rooney was the worst on the pitch again. Couldn't pass, control the ball, the basic stuff you expect from north conference player.. he was also too slow for the perfect pass, someone as average as Dwight Gale would have scored in the position. Even someone as slow Berbatov who would have controlled the ball.
The combination of disastrous touch and movement of pub players is the worst thing what can happen to a striker.
Rooney was the worst again even right now it wasn't by a country mile...
I'm really scratching my head about Rooney now, I've been defending him all season, but it's now beyond the defending point. Unfortunately, he's now played 16 games and beyond maybe one or two games he's been pretty much awful in them all.
Okay, I can accept the professional point of view that he's not being supplied, but that doesn't really tell the whole story as we know Rooney of old would have offered far more to the team than we're currently getting.
I don't think he will drop him, I also don't believe we have the experience or the talent in reserve to replace him on the field. For me, we've got to invest in January, whether that's another attacker on the right hand side or an out an out striker. We need more pace and creativity up field.
Okay, I can accept the professional point of view that he's not being supplied, but that doesn't really tell the whole story as we know Rooney of old would have offered far more to the team than we're currently getting.
I don't think he will drop him, I also don't believe we have the experience or the talent in reserve to replace him on the field. For me, we've got to invest in January, whether that's another attacker on the right hand side or an out an out striker. We need more pace and creativity up field.
Van Gaal is a pussy. And this issue is beginning to turn me against this manager. This is costing us points. Even though we were shit yesterday, if he had any legs, he would have scored and the game might have been different.
this is the issue now, what's he worth?
Repost when the drinks worn off!
He at least used to get subbed/rested/rotated didn't he? Seems like he's playing more minutes than ever now.
It's as if Van Gaal is trying some brute force method to kick start some form into him. It can't last.
It's as if Van Gaal is trying some brute force method to kick start some form into him. It can't last.
We shall flog him back into form. I like it
So this is our idea of a public flogging?
seems like it is you who needs to sober up
seriously. whats wrong with the comment, pardon me if it was sarcasm...seems like it is you who needs to sober up
Lol just you managed to slag off Berbatov Gale and Rooney plus half the pub players in Britain in one post! Rooney wasn't the worst yesterday far from it. He's been dreadful this season but was certainly nowhere near our bottom performers yesterday.
The manager has left the squad in such a situation that it's incredibly hard to rotate players in attack. We have next to no options.
Indeed. We've managed to spend a simply staggering amount of money signing players for a club that arguably has the best record of any other club at producing PL players from its own academy, yet somehow ended up with a squad that seems more lacking in depth than any other top four contender. It's quite the achievement.
It's not even due to misfortune or missing out on a target either. The manager wanted it this way. Letting Hernandez and Januzaj go that late in the window was madness. He then has the temerity to complain about the players being tired two months into the season. The more I write this post the more I realise the manager may have to go.
If he saw Wilson as legitimate competition for Rooney's place, then he should have played him long before now. If he's since realised that this isn't the case then it's another to add to his long list of poor judgement calls.
He's also talked about Martial being young and needing to carefully managed. Now look at him, playing every minute of every game and no obvious candidate to give him a break any time soon.
Yet Lingaard is trusted on the right hand side, why Pereira isn't being given the same game time is anyone's guess.
The continued overlooking of Wilson and Pereira is a complete mystery to me, both are clearly ready for first team football. And the first team is clearly in the need of a kick start a young talent might bring.
We shall hear it all again about no xmas break means players cant recover. Tells the players they are tired
I just keep watching it over and over again. Never in my life have I seen a top-level striker fail to keep up with a perfectly-weighted ball like that; it's absolutely disgraceful and the sheer cheek of Van Gaal to criticise Herrera for missing our "only chance" because he wants to ignore the lump he has up front.
What the feck is Rooney doing there, the weight on the pass was almost perfect and he steps over it?
Look closely at it; he honestly can't catch up to the ball to control it; he isn't even letting it run beyond him; he just simply can't break stride to control the ball because he's flat out just trying to keep up with it. That's how dreadful his mobility is these days. He has to be benched, and Van Gaal has to go.
So infuriating. It's such a perfect pass from Martial and Rooney just balls' it up.
Van Persie and Falcao would have also fluffed that chance in the same way Rooney did unfortunately. It reflects how poor some of our strikers have been recently, I wonder if we should have at least given Hernandez another chance as Wilson does not seem to be ready. I fear Rooney will outlast Van Gaal if this goes on, but I want irritarate that Rooney was not the reason we didn't win the game yesterday. For me, his performance in the City game was much worse when others were playing much better.
He doesn't have to be the sole reason we don't win a game to get dropped; what we should be looking at, as fans of a massive club, is what his level of contribution is. His strop after Rojo's long ball forward really irritated me immensely too, because the guy doesn't play well enough to criticise anybody else, and that kind of strop is not how you lead on the pitch; he just looks spoilt, and I don't see how his fellow players can really see him as a leader. You have to look up to and respect the character of a leader. Do you think Basti or any of the Spanish, French, Belgian and Argentinian lads feel that way about Wayne? I think they're all starting to wonder what on earth is going on at our football club, going by the look of dejection they carry around. it's taken him longer to do it, but Van Gaal, with his undroppable captain and structured, defensive football, has sucked the joy out of the club just like Moyes did. You can see it in the players and in the fans.
What, in 09/10 when he scored 34 goals? You think his best season wasn't a particularly great year?
You think Memphis is the reason Rooney's first touch is currently atrocious? Or why he lost the ball 28 times with a pass accuracy of 55% against City? Or why he's too slow and couldn't finish that through ball from Martial yesterday?
OK.
I think you misunderstood me a bit, I'm not saying he shouldn't be dropped (as I think he should be), just that he's isn't fully accountable for us not winning. My point overall was that Van Gaal is only adding to his problems by not dropping Rooney, in fact I believe that with Rooney out of the squad more of our counters, forward moves and ability to keep the ball in the final third would be improved. I think you've forgotten just how bad the Moyes era really was, Van Gaal has been bad at times but he's been much better than Moyes ever was.
I honestly haven't; the football we're playing at the moment is just more functional than David Moyes' United, but we're just as joyless to watch. We don't score goals or create chance, but worse than that, we don't have any intent/urgency in our play. We all thought when we got Van Gaal we'd play in the style of Bayern Munich and Barcelona, but do we heck. We don't press high and pen teams back in their own half; we keep the ball as part of a defensive strategy, and it is dire to watch. This all comes from the manager, and it won't get any better while the entire team continues to revolve around the mind-numbing, riskless retention of the ball and the guy we currently have up front. What you have to ask yourself is: is either of those things going to change under Van Gaal? I've supported Van Gaal fully until yesterday, because I've come to the conclusion they won't change under him. I had the same experience with Moyes. I waited and waited for a sign of progress in the football we played, not just the results, and it never came, and after the game we played against Everton where the shape of the team was literally a square that we passed the ball around inside only to get countered over and over again, I decided that the game was up. Van Gaal has reached the end of my patience, particularly with this Rooney business. If he were to show some humility and drop his captain, I could get behind him again and give him more time.
Maybe we need to put velcro on Wayne's boots to make the ball stick.
It appears from that angle that once the ball goes past him he never makes up any ground on it, if anything the gap slightly increases. The keeper being so quick off his line spares Rooney further blushes because it looks like if you gave him another two yards he still wouldn't have reached it.
The clip sums up Rooney nicely, it's not that he isn't trying he just simply isn't capable of things we once took for granted.
I have been trying to avoid this form and thread since yesterday because of anger. The way LVG has handled our attack this season is negligent. We lost 6 attackers and brought 2 in. 1 and a half will be more ant because Memphis is half a player at the moment. We are now in a situation where we keep starting a player who's playing like a pensioner. It's unacceptable.
imagine that was Herrera
What made it funny is our the co-commentator didn't even criticize Rooney for not touching the ball but instead went on to praise the keeper (who did well tbh but Rooney should have either shot or dribbled him). It's like in the eyes on many media, he can do no to little wrong.
Sign Rooney Mara.
He most certainly was. I suggest to watch the game again. It wasn't his worst game to say the least. But his lowest standard is too low..
Not yesterday unfortunately there were far worse performances!!
That gif I posted, alone, makes him the worst player. He is completely finished and all this "he wasn't the worst performer" in (insert game here) is just an attempt to paper over the enormous, hideously-obvious chasm that is our lack of a striker; we have a fatty who has the touch of an elephant trying to lindy hop playing there.
that's not the worst part of yesterday. there was one where he tried to shimmy past 2 players, and just fell over. Like he outconfused his own body
I wonder what LVG will say about that. He is very quick to criticise all players, except for Rooney... He'll probably tell Martial, that the pass was too heavy.
I noticed on MOTD yesterday, Gullit looked at that. He didnt say it was a good through-ball. He said, "unlucky".
Seconds later, the pundits proceeded to say that our other players are not creating enough chances for Rooney. But Rooney himself, was not criticised.
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