Martial is not that familiar with English yet (since Schneiderlin is still translating for him). So I don't think he would care too much from press-related stuff that doesn't come from his native France, and that's a big plus right now.
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Martial is not that familiar with English yet (since Schneiderlin is still translating for him). So I don't think he would care too much from press-related stuff that doesn't come from his native France, and that's a big plus right now.
Yeah, I doubt the French press would be bothered printing stories about a 19 year old French lad who has just displaced Wayne Rooney in the Utd side.
Yea, guys, look, we're all sitting here getting pissed off at him being incredibly shit, don't you think that our players might possibly be pissed off at him as well? He's fecking up most of the attacks, doesn't do shit, everybody knows he's the highest earner, other players around him get subbed and he's never subbed, he's the first name on the sheet, been throwing his toys outta pram more than once saying he wants to leave and all that.
You've got a co-worker like him, do you REALLY like him? Thinking even about Mata today who's genuinely a nice guy, he was walking off pissed off, not saying that it was purely down to this, but maybe, just maybe something popped in his head along lines like 'fecking hell, I wasn't the one to get subbed'?
It's not like our team is filled with fecking idiots, they see how things roll at United at the moment.
You've got a co-worker like him, do you REALLY like him? Thinking even about Mata today who's genuinely a nice guy, he was walking off pissed off, not saying that it was purely down to this, but maybe, just maybe something popped in his head along lines like 'fecking hell, I wasn't the one to get subbed'?
It's not like our team is filled with fecking idiots, they see how things roll at United at the moment.
He already is regardless of whether Martial is up front.
He was bad today but unlike other weeks there were a few players that were far worse than him.
The fact is he has 2 PL goals in 10 games playing 90 minutes in pretty much all the games. One came off his knee and the other was a one on one. The numbers are dire and the performances are just as terrible.
How much longer will LVG ignore the obvious and start substituting him because we all know its folly to expect him to be benched eh?
The fact is he has 2 PL goals in 10 games playing 90 minutes in pretty much all the games. One came off his knee and the other was a one on one. The numbers are dire and the performances are just as terrible.
How much longer will LVG ignore the obvious and start substituting him because we all know its folly to expect him to be benched eh?
It's like the guy who is always late for work and the boss says nothing. You do it once and are on report. We all know them.
Yeah, he's the one were looking to when we need a goal, If anything playing him centrally would make his job easier.
Yeah but while the pitch forks are out for Rooney the focus will be off him.
Didn't make it look much easier today, if anything he looked more of a threat when he was out left.
Martial played 68 games prior to his move.
Rooney played 77. Not a lot between them, other than the league.
Pressure doesnt seem to affect Martial. He seems as if he was ready made to be our saviour (attacking woes).
Everytime I see Rooney play I think of this:
In Rooney's support, I think Rooney did "okay" today.
There were other players on the pitch who played worse.
The only issue I have with him is that he is undroppable, yet isn't a top player.
In Rooney's support, I think Rooney did "okay" today.
There were other players on the pitch who played worse.
The only issue I have with him is that he is undroppable, yet isn't a top player.
Rooney's ratings and how they compare to the rest of the team are amazing:
Tottenham 5.4 - 2nd worst
Villa 3.6 - worst
Brugge 5.7 - 3rd worst
Newcastle 4.8 - worst
Brugge 8.8 - best
Swansea 3.1 - worst
Southampton 4.8 - worst
Ipswich 6.7 - average
Sunderland 6.8 - below average
Wolfsburg 4.7 - worst
Arsenal 3.8 - 3rd worst
Everton 6.8 - below average
Moscow 4.7 - worst
City 4.5 - worst
Middlesbrough 3.0 - worst
Palace 3.7 - worst
Tottenham 5.4 - 2nd worst
Villa 3.6 - worst
Brugge 5.7 - 3rd worst
Newcastle 4.8 - worst
Brugge 8.8 - best
Swansea 3.1 - worst
Southampton 4.8 - worst
Ipswich 6.7 - average
Sunderland 6.8 - below average
Wolfsburg 4.7 - worst
Arsenal 3.8 - 3rd worst
Everton 6.8 - below average
Moscow 4.7 - worst
City 4.5 - worst
Middlesbrough 3.0 - worst
Palace 3.7 - worst
Rooney had led the line for England at a major international tournament, not that the press around the England team is unrealistic or anything.
Yeah, what could go wrong.
If I had a co-worker who keeps on getting late in whatever he or she is asked to, whether it is about getting to work in time or about getting the job done, I would go to my boss and ask him/her to do fecking something before it hurts the results at work. Right now, I'm sure there are many players who feel that way and I'm pretty sure many of them already went to have a word with Van Gaal about that. The big problem here is Van Gaal not having the balls to take any action against that washed up employee named Wayne Rooney.
At some point, I hope that one of our senior players who doesn't give a shit about Rooney will come up and lash it out like an angry Al Pacino calling out Kevin Spacey for doing a shit job as a boss.
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my recollection was that he could have took a touch but let it run infront of him. Worse than being too slow for it
So VOTM half the games he plays accord. to the Caf...
Him being England's darling doesn't help, I feel no journalist has the balls to ask LvG this question : "Is Wayne Rooney untouchable ?"
The problem is as soon as the press start asking Van Gaal why Rooney doesn't get dropped they have to start asking Hodgson the same thing and they're not going to when he's just broken the England scoring record and England won all their qualifying matches, no need to rock the boat. It doesn't matter that he limped over the line to beat Charlton's record, gifted a bunch of penalties in easy games, he's still the main man.
Removing Rooney and playing faster, quicker players.. injecting some pace and flair into this side would make Martial's job easier and kickstart some run of form for a few others. Might bring out the best in players like Mata, Herrera too.. making the team less reliant on Martial than it currently is. There is no doubt that quite a few players in this side are playing for their futures here but playing Wayne is making everyone's job that much harder and it must be demoralising seeing him start and finish every game despite being our worst performer by far this season.
He is physically done, there is no improvement to be had in his game.. at least the other lads may have an upturn in form, the potential is there as we saw last season. You are more comfortable criticising the likes of Herrera than telling it like it is with Rooney. He is finished - simple as, protecting Martial is not a valid excuse as the team is getting more stick right now and attracting more negative comments than ever.
After 4 winless matches and only 1 goal scored in that time (390 minutes of play), do you see any sense in not rocking the boat?
Rooney is finished? I think people forget that even SAF only used him for one season as a ST and that wasn't a particularly great year either.
This lack of form from alot of our players is happening because of memphis & not rooney; if memphis could play even 50% of thr way he did against basel then every player would be playing in their best position bar maybe mata.
This lack of form from alot of our players is happening because of memphis & not rooney; if memphis could play even 50% of thr way he did against basel then every player would be playing in their best position bar maybe mata.
Watching him run today you can see he's overweight. He's a fat disgrace. Fergie would whip him out of the team in an instant.
Van gaals training is definitely harder than fergusons. Maybe not better but definitely harder.
All that might happen, or it might not. The question was asked as to why we don't drop Rooney for him and I posed some possible answers, aside from the usual 'LvG is afraid of him', there are other, IMO, more realistic potential reasons, thats it.
Owen, Rooney, Fowler, are 3 players who were over-relied on in their teens and, arguably as a result, suffered later in their careers - maybe LvG is trying to avoid something similar with Martial.
I'm comfortable criticising Herrera because his performance today, and recently, deserves criticism, but yeah I should probably ignore everything else and just join the chorus on Rooney - whose performance I haven't defended or justified in any way, because it doesn't deserve any.
That's a bit harsh on Memphis, it's not his fault Rooney looks so bad, Martial has done well on the left yet Rooney still looks lost.
Anyway if Memphis was playing well then where does this leave Rooney? On the bench? This doesn't seem to be an option, so obviously Herrera or Martial will be there instead.
I thought he was no worse than anyone else on the pitch really. However the issue is that 8 of the 11 players on the pitch for us played bad games, but for Rooney that was a good game..
calling names I agree , but the rest does not matter , the way he is playing right now is an embarrassment to him and the club.
Everytime I see Rooney play I think of this:
In Rooney's support, I think Rooney did "okay" today.
There were other players on the pitch who played worse.
The only issue I have with him is that he is undroppable, yet isn't a top player.
lol.
I have to disagree with the bolded bit there. There was others that played as bad or bad for their standards but I don't think blatantly 'worse' than Rooney.
Herrera had an off game but you could tell the quality is there even in little spurts. He was one of the worse players because we know what he's capable of and he didn't deliver half of that.
You're completely justified criticising Herrera but one of the most telling point about the games today was Herrera's neat lay off into Rooney (back to goal at the edge of the box) with Herrera looking for a one-two. Rooney fired it into Herrera as a result of a bad pass/he actually meant to pass it back to another player further back.
It's not nitpicking but it's a team game and sometimes you're only as good as your weak link. There are not many players in the world, who can take the game by the scruff of the neck and break down stubborn defences but that doesn't mean your Herreras, Matas, Schweinsteigers aren't good players because they can't seemingly open a game. No imo, it's simply because Rooney is the blunt spear and stopping the penetration.
Has Rooney ever been a proper striker though? He cannot lead a line properly because his natural game is to drift around the pitch. Isn't this why we bought van persie anyway?
Some people here complaining about the fact that Rooney is bigger than the club when i would say the loaning out of januzaj proves that Rooney wasn't really intended to be the striker leading the line.
Yes he should do better; but memphis being off form has made our no 1 striker (with goals to his name) shifted to the left; our AM in rooney shifted to ST and Herrera (who i dont think is a AM) also possibly played out of position.
We still however seem to have a squad depth of a team not in the CL & we cant afford to have players like memphis taking too long gettingn out of ruts.
I feel the same, and its really disconcerting.
What surprises me the most is that he is never substituted. However big name a player might be, usually if they are not playing well they will at least be substituted here and there. Usually they are given a role from the bench for a couple of games or so. If not they might start but if they are off form they'll be taken off.
I have never seen anything like this. Somebody who is playing as bad as this playing pretty much every minute of every fecking game. Even against Boro he was the first player brought on.
Has a similar situation ever happened anywhere before, where the consistently worst player gets played every single minute of every game?
I have never seen anything like this. Somebody who is playing as bad as this playing pretty much every minute of every fecking game. Even against Boro he was the first player brought on.
Has a similar situation ever happened anywhere before, where the consistently worst player gets played every single minute of every game?
13 off the goal scoring record.. Will he get it this season? If not, he isn't going anywhere in the summer.
Apparently some fella rang into the phone show on MUTV and said he is playing badly because he has piles
No Herrera was poor as was Mata and Darmain. Rooney played better than these guys imo. Rojo had a tough time today as did Blind as well.
Again not Memphis's fault, if LvG hasn't planned for the Memphis struggling in the first few months then he's nuts, also people soon forget that Memphis starting playing badly after Shaw got injured, hardly a help having your partner on the left and good buddy getting that sort of injury as he's adjusting.
Rooney and pundits bleat all the time about playing him as the main striker, the guy hasn't scored as many as he has by not been a top striker, the simple fact he is he isn't/can't perform any more, it's not anyone's fault, not even Rooney's but it needs sorting out, shifting him into the number 10 role will solve nothing.
I have taped the show. That will be worth waiting for.Apparently some fella rang into the phone show on MUTV and said he is playing badly because he has piles
Isn't it worrying that Rooney's good game would be bad in most people eyes.
I have taped the show. That will be worth waiting for.
Let me know if it's true
You can blame Rooney all you want but van Gaal is the real problem with the seemingly unstoppable status he's been given.
He's got a clear option. Drop Rooney, play Young to the left and Martial up top.
He's got a clear option. Drop Rooney, play Young to the left and Martial up top.
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