Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances

[elisha27]

The attention Rooney attracts is much his own making, so he can't really have any excuses. If he's going to talk the talk, he'd best make sure he can follow through. To put this into perspective, Baines was poor yesterday, sure, but the difference is that Baines isn't purporting to be a top player, prone to sulking unless he gets his own way, considering himself above criticism, nor parading himself as the main man. Baines is guilty of nothing more than a poor game and/or not being good enough.

Rooney, contrarily, has appointed himself to the top table, demanding world class wages and exposure, and hasn't followed through - again - and that rightfully opens him up to a level of criticism that would be unfair to others. Ronaldo has a similar vanity to Rooney, but the difference is that he delivers on it. Lately it feels like Rooney cares more about his brand than he does his team(s). That he's getting botox injections at all, let alone at 28, presents to me a picture of someone who is too interested in their own image.

 

[Varun]

He should be playing behind Sturridge, not on the left.

 

[Zen86]

Which straws were those? Would you see it an achievement signing for the best team in the world?

 

[Lane]

He won't be missed.....England lost because of him.


His performance last night was nothing to write home about and this has been the case in the previous World Cup editions. The excuses are wearing thin - let us admit once and for all Rooney is not good enough when it matters the most.

Yes, he played wide left but so did Welbeck. Welbeck performed very well but Rooney did nothing apart from the cross for Sturridge which was a straight decision any decent player would have made. I hope LvG makes a decent profit from him when we sell him to PSG or Monaco.

Funny thing though, he was involved in every good England attacking move. And produced a great assist. For some reason, neither Barkley, Lallana or anyone else, even Sterling could not made any goal contribution last night.
Also while being notoriously "England's worst player" he also is Englands leading scorer in WC qualification. And he mainly scored against bigger teams as well. In fact he scored in 4 of 6 vital matches with Montenegro, Poland, Ukraine.

I wonder would have England qualified at WC at all if Lambert/Sturridge were their only/main CFs in qualification.

 

[Hannibal]

Really? How exactly?

If he had scored from that chance, it would be 2-2. World class players need just one chance to make it count especially when it's ended the most. Van Persie had one opportunity when Spain was leading and he made it count.

Rooney was anonymous in the first 35 mins - A player raking £300k/week should be more influential. His corner kick just summed up everything that has to be said really. If that was Young, he would have to be secured in a bunker this morning with the outrage English fans would have heaped on him.

England lost because of Rooney's performance - the 3 Lions couldn't afford any passenger as they were facing a quality team and Rooney was worse than a passenger yesterday. He offered no protection for Baines at all and his own performance going forward was just pure wank.

 

[Cassidy]

If he had scored from that chance, it would be 2-2. World class players need just one chance to make it count especially when it's ended the most. Van Persie had one opportunity when Spain was leading and he made it count.

Rooney was anonymous in the first 35 mins - A player raking £300k/week should be more influential. His corner kick just summed up everything that has to be said really. If that was Young, he would have to be secured in a bunker this morning with the outrage English fans would have heaped on him.

England lost because of Rooney's performance - the 3 Lions couldn't afford any passenger as they were facing a quality team and Rooney was worse than a passenger yesterday. He offered no protection for Baines at all and his own performance going forward was just pure wank.

He wasn't good but to say England lost because of him is a joke

 

[Red Dreams]

If he had scored from that chance, it would be 2-2. World class players need just one chance to make it count especially when it's ended the most. Van Persie had one opportunity when Spain was leading and he made it count.

Rooney was anonymous in the first 35 mins - A player raking £300k/week should be more influential. His corner kick just summed up everything that has to be said really. If that was Young, he would have to be secured in a bunker this morning with the outrage English fans would have heaped on him.

England lost because of Rooney's performance - the 3 Lions couldn't afford any passenger as they were facing a quality team and Rooney was worse than a passenger yesterday. He offered no protection for Baines at all and his own performance going forward was just pure wank.

one of the most stupid posts on here.

wondered when the 300k number would turn up....


sure enough.....

 

[Hannibal]

one of the most stupid posts on here.
wondered when the 300k number would turn up....
sure enough.....

Why are you getting salty unnecessarily? If you cannot pass your message across without throwing hissy-fits, I suggest you go and lie down or put a sock in it.

 

[Lawman]

If he had scored from that chance, it would be 2-2. World class players need just one chance to make it count especially when it's ended the most. Van Persie had one opportunity when Spain was leading and he made it count.

Rooney was anonymous in the first 35 mins - A player raking £300k/week should be more influential. His corner kick just summed up everything that has to be said really. If that was Young, he would have to be secured in a bunker this morning with the outrage English fans would have heaped on him.

England lost because of Rooney's performance - the 3 Lions couldn't afford any passenger as they were facing a quality team and Rooney was worse than a passenger yesterday. He offered no protection for Baines at all and his own performance going forward was just pure wank.

I remember playing against Real Madrid in Fergies last season RVP had a few great chances and fluffed his lines also, it happens get over it.

 

[The Man Himself]

one of the most stupid posts on here.

wondered when the 300k number would turn up....


sure enough.....

There is a competition going on I believe among Rooney haters about who can make him sound like worst ever football player. In that sense, this Hannibal guy's attempt is decent.

 

[The Man Himself]

I remember playing against Real Madrid in Fergies last season RVP had a few great chances and fluffed his lines also, it happens get over it.

ssssshhhhhhhh... how dare you point out RvP's bad games? Tomorrow you will say RvP acted like Berba on couple of occasions last season because he didn't get all his way. Never happened.

 

[Red Dreams]

There is a competition going on I believe among Rooney haters about who can make him sound like worst ever football player. In that sense, this Hannibal guy's attempt is decent.

quite entertaining mind you.

but if we try and actually address the Football side of things, we will sink along with them in that quicksand they are in.

 

[The Man Himself]

quite entertaining mind you.

but if we try and actually address the Football side of things, we will sink along with them in that quicksand they are in.

I can guess what my last words will be.... 300k!!...300k!!..300k!!

 

[Red Dreams]

 

[Hannibal]

I remember playing against Real Madrid in Fergies last season RVP had a few great chances and fluffed his lines also, it happens get over it.

That season, RVP won the golden boot for United and we won the league too. The game last night was Rooney's 9th World Cup game and he is yet to score. If you are not embarrassed for him, you should be ashamed of yourself.

 

[Lane]

I remember playing against Real Madrid in Fergies last season RVP had a few great chances and fluffed his lines also, it happens get over it.

Exactly and he also was not good enough at euro 2012 and even at WC 2010 when his team ended up in final he did not take a lot of chances.

 

[BennyBlanco]

He should be playing behind Sturridge, not on the left.

If he played behind Sturridge yesterday, and our two midfielders remain strictly holders as they seemed to for the majority of the game yesterday, and not having license to get forward, we'd be left with a 2nd Bermuda triangle esq chasm in the middle of the pitch, as Utd had to endure for half of Moyes reign.

 

[Lane]

That season, RVP won the golden boot for United and we won the league too. The game last night was Rooney's 9th World Cup game and he is yet to score. If you are not embarrassed for him, you should be ashamed of yourself.

But we still lost to Real because of him. If we apply your logic to MU.

 

[Hannibal]

But we still lost to Real because of him. If we apply your logic to MU.

No we didn't - that game finished 1-1 at the Bernebau. Don't try and rewrite history with your black and white memory chip.


We lost to Real Madrid because Nani was sent off at Old Trafford.

 

[Lane]

No we didn't - that game finished 1-1 at the Bernebau. Don't try and rewrite history with your black and white memory chip.


We lost to Real Madrid because Nani was sent off at Old Trafford.

Had he scored he would win 2-1. Robin robbed us of Madrid win according to your logic. And with that win and two away goals, our chances back home would have been much better as well.

 

[Litch]

I'll take that has a yes then.....

 

[Zen86]

I'll take that has a yes then.....

Take that as a you're talking shit and not worth the effort

 

[Varun]

If he played behind Sturridge yesterday, and our two midfielders remain strictly holders as they seemed to for the majority of the game yesterday, and not having license to get forward, we'd be left with a 2nd Bermuda triangle esq chasm in the middle of the pitch, as Utd had to endure for half of Moyes reign.

Dont see why that has to be the case at all.He drops deep as instructed to, doesnt play as a striker. If he doesnt even when asked to, you bench him. What you dont do is put him out wide where he is half as effective and where you have better options just because he's Wayne Rooney.

 

[Nighteyes]

There is a competition going on I believe among Rooney haters about who can make him sound like worst ever football player. In that sense, this Hannibal guy's attempt is decent.

Hannibal won that competition long ago when he compared Rooney to.......Bebe.

 

[The Man Himself]

Hannibal won that competition long ago when he compared Rooney to.......Bebe.

Really? Can't argue then. He is spot on and clear winner of the competition.

 

[Kag]

The attention Rooney attracts is much his own making, so he can't really have any excuses. If he's going to talk the talk, he'd best make sure he can follow through. To put this into perspective, Baines was poor yesterday, sure, but the difference is that Baines isn't purporting to be a top player, prone to sulking unless he gets his own way, considering himself above criticism, nor parading himself as the main man. Baines is guilty of nothing more than a poor game and/or not being good enough.

Rooney, contrarily, has appointed himself to the top table, demanding world class wages and exposure, and hasn't followed through - again - and that rightfully opens him up to a level of criticism that would be unfair to others. Ronaldo has a similar vanity to Rooney, but the difference is that he delivers on it. Lately it feels like Rooney cares more about his brand than he does his team(s). That he's getting botox injections at all, let alone at 28, presents to me a picture of someone who is too interested in their own image.

Good post.

 

[NessunDorma]

"
He is credited with intelligence, positional awareness and technical skill without obvious corroborative evidence.

Try watching any of our season review DVDs from the last 10 years. You'll see plenty of it.

 

[NessunDorma]

Got an assist, created more chances than any other play on the pitch, and put a shift in, all from a position he hasn't played regularly in for 5 years now. Was nowhere near as horrible as some are making out

I'd agree with those saying he needs to be played centrally or dropped, though. If Hodgson feels Sterling is a better #10 and Sturridge a better #9, then simply don't play Rooney.

Maybe then people will see that England's problems aren't just about him (he's actually the least of them).

 

[Ducklegs]

This hating on Rooney is exactly the same as the mouth breathers gave Beckham at big tournaments.

 

[Ducklegs]

Got an assist, created more chances than any other play on the pitch, and put a shift in, all from a position he hasn't played regularly in for 5 years now. Was nowhere near as horrible as some are making out

I'd agree with those saying he needs to be played centrally or dropped, though. If Hodgson feels Sterling is a better #10 and Sturridge a better #9, then simply don't play Rooney.

Maybe then people will see that England's problems aren't just about him (he's actually the least of them).

I agree with this.

England's problem is the same as United under Moyes and to a later extent towards the end of Fergies time, it plays with no identity.
What is the English teams ethos? Free flowing attacking football? Methodical build up play? Sharp and incisive counter attacking? Defensive? Are we a physical side? A technical side? Do we like to lump it long? Play it on the deck?

feck knows.

 

[The Man Himself]

I agree with this.

England's problem is the same as United under Moyes and to a later extent towards the end of Fergies time, it plays with no identity.
What is the English teams ethos? Free flowing attacking football? Methodical build up play? Sharp and incisive counter attacking? Defensive? Are we a physical side? A technical side? Do we like to lump it long? Play it on the deck?

feck knows.

Good point.

 

[mancan92]

Got an assist, created more chances than any other play on the pitch, and put a shift in, all from a position he hasn't played regularly in for 5 years now. Was nowhere near as horrible as some are making out

I'd agree with those saying he needs to be played centrally or dropped, though. If Hodgson feels Sterling is a better #10 and Sturridge a better #9, then simply don't play Rooney.

Maybe then people will see that England's problems aren't just about him (he's actually the least of them).

How can you even say this with a straight face. He was invisible except two moments. One he did very well, the other he messed up.

 

[Kag]

Where it all went wrong for Wayne Rooney

That's a phenomenal piece of journalism from Rob Smyth. It deserves print.

 

[Red Dreams]

Simply play Rooney as the #9. Sturridge as #10.

mind you that still does not solve the dross we have in midfield.

 

[NessunDorma]

How can you even say this with a straight face. He was invisible except two moments. One he did very well, the other he messed up.

1. He did create more chances than any other player on the pitch.
2. He did put a shift in.
3. He did get an assist.

I can say it with a straight face because it happens to be true.

 

[mancan92]

1. He did create more chances than any other player on the pitch.
2. He did put a shift in.
3. He did get an assist.

I can say it with a straight face because it happens to be true.

Well I guess it depends what you think counts as a chance but at the end of the day rooney was anonymous and didnt even do his job defensively. So I dont see how he put in a shift.

 

[NessunDorma]

Well I guess it depends what you think counts as a chance but at the end of the day rooney was anonymous and didnt even do his job defensively. So I dont see how he put in a shift.

Maybe if i'd said 'Rooney was exceptional and the best player on the pitch', you might have had a point. But I didn't. I just said that he wasn't quite as horrible as some are making out, and he did make positive contributions.

 

[Ash_G]

A lot of sense in this post Ash but for me Rooney criticism is unfair. Shearer was way ott. Wayne was top goal scorer in the groups being stuck out wide left is not great what kind of performance did the media expect him to have from out there. I find it sad that Rooney will be judged in world cups that he's been injured in or played out of position.

Cheers. Yeah I agree its unfair for him to bare all the blame, as I said for example the lack of criticism, particularly for Gerard in the middle for not providing enough cover and tactically for not addressing the problem by dropping a 3rd player in the middle is imo wrong. But it's not surprising, Rooney is always going to be the main guy who's the focus of the press, bigging him up too much and also criticising him too much.

It's hard really this one. In some ways Rooney is being punished for not quite living up to his early potential rather than doing something wrong. As you say he's a top goal scorer, unfortunately the other parts of his game have suffered rather than developed with this and so whilst he can do a job in other areas he just can't seem to do it as well as a player of his supposed quality/type should and in a weaker team that just gets made all the more clearer. It's not just him though, stick Sturridge wide and he's not the same player.

Ultimately it comes to the same old problems, well at International level anyway. Got two players for one position, Sturridge and Rooney and the coach isn't brave enough to commit to a decision which would be to bench one of them.

 

[mancan92]

Maybe if i'd said 'Rooney was exceptional and the best player on the pitch', you might have had a point. But I didn't. I just said that he wasn't quite as horrible as some are making out, and he did make positive contributions.

Well I dont think many are saying he was terrible but at the end of the day he is held to higher standards because of his ability. Being just ok isn't good enough for a player like him in his prime.

 

[NessunDorma]

Well I dont think many are saying he was terrible

I think many quite clearly are. That he doesn't even deserve to be playing is probably the majority opinion now among England fans. At least, that's how it seems based on social media reaction.