What a load of crap. He'll be the Utd all time leading goal scorer. Is this something easy to achieve at a club like ours in modern football terms? Also people don't like him IMO cause of how much he's being paid. Not sure where the actually think he's better than he is comes from or him being unlikable? Whats that based on?
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What a load of crap. He'll be the Utd all time leading goal scorer. Is this something easy to achieve at a club like ours in modern football terms? Also people don't like him IMO cause of how much he's being paid. Not sure where the actually think he's better than he is comes from or him being unlikable? Whats that based on?
So how do you potentially become Utd's all-time leading goal scorer if your not one of the best players in the world?
Nope people don't like Rooney for far more reasons than how much he is being paid. Thats just the most recent thing.
Well exactly so we should expect more from him. So being barely average isnt good enough and he should deservedly get alot of criticism.
What are the other reasons then. Enlighten me?
Crap. People like you, doesn't matter what he does, would never be good enough.....
People have lots of reasons for liking/rating Rooney or otherwise. It's just as silly to claim that some don't like him because he's a scouser as it is to claim that some only like him because he was on the cover of FIFA when they were growing up; it's more complex than '£300bloodyk per week for that!' or 'Soon-to-be United's top scorer! Legend!'
People like who?
If Rooney performed in this world cup he would get the praise of the entire country but if he doesn't then he will rightfully get criticised. Theres zero agenda just simply he has no excuse for not performing this is his time, he needs to show it.
I really don't need to tell you as everyone already knows them. No one is telling you not to love Rooney, but there are clear and legitimate reasons why many United fans fell out of love with him a long time ago.
I don't want to discredit Rooney's general impact on United for the most part of his career with us but in 10 seasons he's only managed the 1 in 2 ratio twice. For one of the best players in the world it's not a pretty little statistic.
Playing 400 odd games as one off United's main attacking players in a variety of positions should yield goals. I don't think his record is so exceptionally brilliant that it makes him one of the best players in the world. His two best scoring seasons were examples of Rooney being close to the best players in the world because he was a genuine driving force for us, but even then he was a level below the best.
What? I dont give a flying Feck about the entire country. Needs to show what, the last time I looked, there were 10 other players in an England shirt too.....
So tell me them if they are clear and legitimate....?
Let's see shall we, he pisses off his teammates by claiming they aren't good enough for the team to achieve his ambitions.... If that's really what he felt or if it was just to get more money, cnuty thing to do, has repeatedly missed games for utd by being suspended for idiotic things, sulks if he doesn't get his way, shags whores whilst his wife is at home carrying their child, berates teammates for not passing to him even if he is having a mare, slags off the England fans for booing despite just playing in possibly the worst England side for the past 20 years(2010 wc), lets that monumental shitc**t strettford run every aspect of his life. Yeah, great bloke, should be up for an amazing super bloke of the year award! But despite all of that my last post is actually trying to stick up for him a bit. His performances are criticised far more harshly than they should be, like last night, i would say it was a 6/10, but some of the reactions make it sound like he scored 2 own goals and broke Gary Lewis ankle himself, and I think that is in part due to people being unable to separate the off field bellend from the player, something I've been guilty of myself in the past. He has been a very good player for us and a massive part of our success but had he not been shunted between positions his whole career and been played as a striker I think he could well have been talked about as one of the worlds greatest forwards ever as opposed to "just" a very very good player
He was out of place first half as he wasn't working with Baines well at all. Second half was a bit better but by his standards he didn't play very well. I'm not going to rave about him because he got an assist - feck sake, he isn't Nani.
yes but he is the star player so if he doesnt perform he gets more criticism and rightly so.
And also while being utds all time top scorer is a hell of an achievement, and a sign of a very good player, how many forwards have played for us for a decade or more? Rvn, ronaldo, ole, tevez and rvp could all have done that had they been here as long and played as many games as Rooney
What? So if you hang around a club like utd for 10 years, its inevitable that you'll beat the record? People so devalue achievements at times. To stay at a club like Utd for 10 seasons is an achievement in itself. Who else in the world has achieved playing at that level scoring the amount of goals for the last 10 seasons? Ronaldo and Messi probably....
Bar Ronaldo the rest wouldnt have been good enough to play for United at 19.
Fair point
I dislike him because of his socks. There, I said it.
Well yes you'd think so. Players who don't perform regularly generally don't last at United. Rooney has performed regularly. I still don't regard him as one of the best players in the world but his general level has been at a good enough level (and sometimes well above) throughout his United career. If he'd been here 10 years and not been close to the record we'd be wondering what happened to him and why he never came close to his potential.
Rooney isnt Nelson Mandela and because he's a footballer people take some kind of moral view of him. You could prefix that stuff with Gerrad, Terry, Ronaldo and many others....
Yes he is. This is just typical of the way people constantly underrate WR10™.
A caller to BBC Fivelive:
"As Rooney ages he can evolve to become England's Pirlo, he has all of the attributes."
"As Rooney ages he can evolve to become England's Pirlo, he has all of the attributes."
But thats the point, they haven't. Thats part of the achievement, if he wasn't contributing he would have been sold like the others. Its part of the legacy.....
I completely agree and for the third time as you appear to keep missing it, it's wrong to criticise his performances overly because he is a twat off the field. For once I'm sticking up for him
Where are we going to fit him in next season? Mata is a better #10 and RVP is a better striker. I can't see him fitting in.
Before his hair transplant, I was planning to bring him to India and make him modern age Mahatma Gandhi
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Before his hair transplant, I was planning to bring him to India and make him modern age Mahatma Gandhi
At last, some sense in the Rooney thread!
Bar Ronaldo and Messi, who's been better than him over 10 seasons?
There or thereabouts you've got Villa, Eto'o, Ibrahimovic. In large parts of the period you've got players like Robben, Muller who have been genuinely influential for large periods of major progress in the CL, World Cups and so on.
In terms of overall consistency, no one touches Frank Lampard for me. His Chelsea career is ridiculous when you think about it. There was a point where he played 160 games consecutively.
Stopped reading. Wtf has that got to do with anything.
Is this a serious question ? How about Zlatan, Villa,Henry, Eto'o, Xavi, Iniesta for starters ?
He is wright thought, people like you, just waiting to moan about him, rightfully criticised? despite the fact that he wasnt shit last night also had an assist, cant you at least wait to see how he performs in all our games? one game in which wasn't half bad and youre at him already.
rooney is an enigma. Lacks consistency but when he does it, he does it in style.
RVP is a better striker. mata is a better 10. rooney is a hybrid of the two. He works really hard though.
RVP is a better striker. mata is a better 10. rooney is a hybrid of the two. He works really hard though.
Precisely, he is only comparable with such players and that says a lot, you've just said it your self.
For simple fans, and Moyes it was tricky. For Van Gaal, he'll find a way I'm certain.
Less certain about transfers, but hey...it's only..May,...sorry early June...sorry Mid june...etc
I'm not comparing him to them, he had the potential to become better than all of them but he hasn't and probably won't ever.He's clearly some level below Xavi and Iniesta for instance.
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