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Fans have this unrealistic picture of what Rooney should be in their minds and he his somehow held to those standards and berated. It's insane, IMAR.
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One sunny day, when I am bored out my mind, I'll find you several from this thread.
Fans have this unrealistic picture of what Rooney should be in their minds and he his somehow held to those standards and berated. It's insane, IMAR.
Being involved in defense, midfield and attack is what makes Rooney an excellent player. He does everything well and makes his team better, that is why he is a phenomenal player and an asset to our team.
It's not he runs around like a headless chicken all the time. He runs around to make things happen and more often than not, he does.
From watching him over the best part of a decade, frequently dominating the opposition, controlling the rhythm and pattern of the game. If you can't see it, there's not much I can say, except next time you watch us, try to keep an eye out for the bloke who looks like a cross between Paul Scholes, Dwight Yorke and a potato.
Not really no. I wasn't claiming it did, which is why I qualified the statement with 'I haven't seen much of him'. I was going through your list of players, not trying to lay down the law on Ozil.
Forevergiggs, you sound like you have a crush mate.
We all know Rooney is a brilliant footballer, but comments like "He runs around to make things happen and more often than not, he does." are just silly.
That makes him sound like Ronaldo/Messi standard.
We all know Rooney is a brilliant footballer, but comments like "He runs around to make things happen and more often than not, he does." are just silly.
That makes him sound like Ronaldo/Messi standard.
It doesn't though, I think he's just trying to point out that he's often a catalyst for our attacks.
I don't see how saying he often makes things happen on the pitch is trying to put him in the same bracket as Ronaldo and Messi. You could say that 'they make things happen' about a lot of players, doesn't mean you're comparing them to those two.
I don't see how saying he often makes things happen on the pitch is trying to put him in the same bracket as Ronaldo and Messi. You could say that 'they make things happen' about a lot of players, doesn't mean you're comparing them to those two.
I don't have a crush on any player. I have always been club and Fergie crazy, never player crazy. I like some better than others.
It may be a little exaggerated but not silly. He is a very effective player, who in the past has carried us as a team. He had an indiscretion as a 23 year old, for whatever reason, and that is held against him. He doesn't have the tricks of a Messi or an Iniesta, and that is inadequate. But the desire and the heart he shows on the field is not counted for anything.
Ozil no, Silva yes. Silva contributes more to build up play than Rooney does, but that's not a slight on Rooney because Silva is as close a proper playmaker as you can get playing out wide.
Are Messi and Ronaldo the only players to make things happen more often than not?
More often than not is a big statement, just think about it.
'Makes things happen' to me indicates that he does something to further our chances of scoring, or preventing the oppsition from doing so. I'd say he does that more often than not for sure.
It really isn't, it's a very mild statement
Obviously he doesn't mean Rooney will change the game 51% of the time he gets the ball
"He runs around to make things happen" makes him sound like Messi?? What sort of mentalness is this? What several people including Forevergiggs are trying to point out, I think, is the energy that eminates from the man when in form, the physicality, the willingness to burst himself, the fact that he's everywhere at once can lift the team and the crowd. This is how he grabs games by the scruff of the neck and drives us on. It's a less subtle but no less effective or impressive sight than Silva or Özil in full flow.
For someone who prides himself on his English skills, I'd have thought you'd understand that "more often than not" does in fact mean, at least 51%.
Unless of course "makes things happen" means, he passes a simple ball.
We don't "all know Rooney is a brilliant footballer", sorry. Rooney has this perplexing quality on here that one good game grants him enough mileage to wipe ten mediocre games from the collective memory, and he's back to being brilliant. You can see the reverse of this effect with less fashionable players - people just have their favourites, I guess.
But your other point is correct - more often that not he doesn't make things happen. The reality is that he's over-rated by both the English media and most United fans - it's only on the continent you can get close to any kind of fair summation of his ability.
He has a lot of subtlety in his game too though.
He's pretty much the complete footballer except the yard of pace and the dribbling ability that he seems to have lost.
He's pretty much the complete footballer except the yard of pace and the dribbling ability that he seems to have lost.
Are you familiar with this thread?
My English skills certainly seem to be inadequate to getting you and amol to grasp my meaning. Let me try again:
I give up
100% agree. If you want an accurate reflection of his standing in world football, just listen to one of our German posters:
Thought you would, hence the popcorn reference. Because you don't know what he meant do you.
Sorry Brwned but who on Earth is that German poster?
"I think Ronaldo is not as influential for Real's success than Rooney is for United's. But there's probably no way we'll find out, just wanted to show that it's not only United fans who think this way"
That's just ludicrous in my opinion.
"I think Ronaldo is not as influential for Real's success than Rooney is for United's. But there's probably no way we'll find out, just wanted to show that it's not only United fans who think this way"
That's just ludicrous in my opinion.
hehehe Brwned!
Thank feck for that.
Why was he banned? Surely that's not within the grounds to ban him?
Clearing the dross. You're next.
I thought we had a connection
I'm going to say what everyone else is thinking: Rooney's hairplugs have really grown in weird.
If you want to ban me then I'll e-die happy. I can't live this lie any more.
If you want to ban me then I'll e-die happy. I can't live this lie any more.
I thought we had a connection
Let me guess, he sent you a picture of him in a sleeveless Primark vest? Classic Spoony.
I thought we had a connection
Only if you rejoice the obnoxious cnut's smackdown.
No, you couldn't ban him off his contribution in this thread alone. There's always some kind of discussion in PMs or in the forums before people get banned (temp or permanent) and that's what happened here.
Heh, I've bought t shirts from Primark. It's cheap, jah!
Fair enough.
He was a bit of a gimp but he did post a lot in the FF, which seems to be dying a slow death in the face of the tirades of people flocking to post shite in the general forum instead.
Good, the connection has never been stronger. How about a fish?
As in a fishing trip together, on a boat alone for hours, or an actual fish?
Ah! Phase 2 of the seduction. He'll send you a naked picture of himself with DVDs of classic Korean movies covering his bits next. And even though he's a bloke he'll cover his nipples. He's weird like that.
An actual fish. I was thinking we could write a song about selling one pound fishes.
I personally think that people getting into tedious/pedantic/personal arguments and de-railing threads is part of the reason the football forums are getting worse. Most can't be bothered getting involved in a football discussion if that discussion turns into a pedantic argument. Although the general's gone too far the other way with everyone being wonderfully accommodating, caring, sensitive people. We need to get back to that happy middle ground of faux-homosexuality and fellatio in the gen while others argue about Berbatov's cigar-smoking skills and Tevez>Rooney.
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