Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances
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So Rooney was poor for us last season now? lol....
I honestly can't imagine where he'll play for us next season. Isn't effective out wide, we have a better and natural #10, and we have a world class CF. There isn't a place for him in our first XI and it would be mad to have someone on such ludicrous wages warming the bench which he'd kick a fuss up about.
Shearer and Lineker are hanging him out to dry. Same old English media (and some of the support). It has to be someone's fault. You can't lose as a team, it has to be down to one individual.
The days when Rooney lit up the world stage seem sooo long ago!
If I were rooney I'd be very worried about my position in the team next season! He left us exposed at the back today and did feck all apart from the the ball to Sturridge!
Sir Alex always spotted a player getting last it and acted quickly to replace him, looks like he was right about Rooney. Wouldn't be surprised if Van Gaal drops him for Mata/Shinji/Adnan.
If I were rooney I'd be very worried about my position in the team next season! He left us exposed at the back today and did feck all apart from the the ball to Sturridge!
Sir Alex always spotted a player getting last it and acted quickly to replace him, looks like he was right about Rooney. Wouldn't be surprised if Van Gaal drops him for Mata/Shinji/Adnan.
Ogden spot on as per, Rooney needs to play through the middle.. he is wasted out wide.
You are right mate, I cant stand him and would happily sell him for some training kits and a bag of balls, but I also try to be objective and will give credit when it's due
He's reminding me of Torres when he started to go south(though still better than that). By that I mean he's not playing well and hasnt in a while, yet he still starts in the hope that he goes back to his normal self and scores a few and gets some consistency. Looking less and less likely at this stage unfortunately.
Well that's fecking nonsense, isn't it? He's clearly a very good player. Not a world class player and probably one on the decline, but still one of the best in the PL and better than the vast majority of alternatives for the national side.
Besides the assist he did nothing in the first half. And he didn't track back, leaving Baines completely exposed. How is that 'good'?
He missed a chance that any player on the money he gets would score with his eyes closed and a player of his supposed level should influence the game much more, instead an 18 year old Sterling after his first full season managed to do that much better than him. We have a better number 9 in RVP, a better number 10 in Mata and he's not that good out wide since he's lost a bit of pace from his younger days. He may really lose his place with us if he brings this form into the club season.
By his own standards he was really good for Manchester United this season but the way he's been playing for England he looks back to his angry and confused state. As long as he gets back on form by the start of the season I don't really care.
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If Rooney was a top player like some people suggest he would start in his favourite position..
Fact is that he's not just not good enough at the top level...
Fact is that he's not just not good enough at the top level...
Nonsense, of course he did track back, if there were times when he didn't, let's not forget that he's a striker/#10 thrown on a fecking wing in order to accomodate a winger in #10.
Quite simply, your whole front four had a good game in the first half, you collapsed in the second.
Woy got outplayed like feck tonight.
How good was Gerrard in his role? What the feck did he do? Is he going to dropped?
I would drop Gerrard too. Start Wilshire instead.
He actually did, he tripped over referee at some point and lost the ball.
Aw shit, it was in the second half though
Stopped reading from here on onwards because it is as shit an argument as anyone can give. Yes just because club decides to pay him huge money he can't miss a chance and no one else ever in history who have been good players not missed more simpler chances. Superb logic.
He's fine when you're building a side to play to his strengths, but we're not. We've clearly decided Sturridge is our best striker and he should play in that position. Then we shoehorn Rooney into the side somewhere else, and it doesn't work.
I'm not saying he's talentless, but what's amazing about his decline is how the all round game has evaporated for both United and England. When you watch Sterling, Sturridge and Welbeck pass and move, you realise how it's now a world away from the game Rooney plays.
Rooney has the ability to contribute. He's still a good finisher. When you look at the way the other forward players are attempting to play though, he's incongruous with that.
He was picked on the wing so he must be judged in that position.
If he isn't good enough as a winger, which he isn't, then you shouldn't play him. Roy doesn't have the balls to drop him though.
fecking hell. Well he was changed for the second half and guess what, they scored after 4 minutes who's to blame for Italy's second goal?
It's terrible management all round, why play him on the left wing and expect him to drop into left back in the first place? either have the balls to drop him or change the style of play. Rooney was shit today, I'm not denying that but a large part of that was due to the role he was given, absolutely shocking to play him there and expect him to do that job. You spend years working towards this tournament and the masterminds behind the scenes come up with the cunning plan to start Rooney as a left wing back.
Roy saying Rooney should satisfied with his performance. Absolutely bonkers.
He did much better job on the left, than anyone else actually. Candreva while making a lot of runs failed to create even single chance in first half, then when Rooney switched to the right side, the goal came exactly from a England's left.
Roy now claiming he played very well
That's like putting Sturridge in the central midfield and complaining that he doesn't perform.
I just don't understand why Woy switched Rooney with Sterling, one was playing as a #10 at his club for whole season, the other one played as a winger for his club last season. Why would you swap that.
He got vital assist and it proves some chemistry happening in this cooperation with Sturridge.
Welbecks fault for the second.
I agree that Rooney shouldn't be playing on the wing. He shouldn't be playing period. I'd start Barkley instead.
Rooney carried neither the threat of Sturridge and Sterling nor the the ball winning capability and pace of Welbeck, we can't afford to make compromises for Wayne in a match as important as Uruguay.
Not going to happen and won't be too wise. In my opinion, England should have gone for more control of midfield earlier in the game. 4-3-3 with Barkley in for Sterling. Rooney, Sturridge and Welbz to alternate as front 3. Past hour mark, when everyone was going to tire, unleash Sterling. Opposite happened in game and Sterling, in spite of having a very good game, was made ineffective later by tiring out, having cramps and playing in a role which is not his best.
I'm not sure either but having said that Sterling was good tonight.
And Sterling has played as a 10 in a diamond quite a lot for Liverpool.
Baines getting outplayed like a child and then Cahill not realising at all where Balotelli is is Danny's fault now?
Christ.
I also thought England should play 433 against Italy. If Roy didn't need to fit Rooney into the team they may well have done it.
He really wasn't bad(and everyone knows how much I criticize him in general), it was OK performance with very good assist for the goal. There were at least 4 worse players than him on the pitch in England's shirt, but for some reason no one will blame Gerrard for pretty much average Cleverley esque performance. Also tonight was really good evidence how hard it is to play with Sturridge, incredibly overrated player who will never be top top player even if he scores 50 goals in season.
That he told him he wanted to leave?
That's all SAF said. Never indicated he wanted to ditch Rooney.
Rooney did not have a great game and should have scored, yet he was one of our better players. He got a great assist, he also created more chances than anyone else in the team. I think he was on par with Sturridge and Sterling. Given that he played out of position for most of the match and was switched around the pitch that is okay.
Baines was covering two players because Welbeck was infield and nowhere near his player. Baines was left stranded which allowed the corner to come in. I'm not defending any of them but the issue began with Welbeck. Just watch the replay.
Could have been done with Rooney too. He did try 4-3-3 without Sterling earlier and it wasn't too bad. In fact if it is 4-3-3, let Rooney be in middle and Welbz and Sturridge wide. Their pace can be used for counter and in his central role he can use both of them or himself to finish moves.
This was the best possible thing United could ever dream of. Rooney pushed wide in the national team for Sturridge, hopefully it makes it easier for LVG to switch Rooney around in a more free manner.
I think you have to play Sturridge centrally. He's not that great on the wing.
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