Ronaldo has played more. Didn't really want to compare him because he is a freak and has always been in absolute peak condition. Rooney clearly hasn't looked after himself as well and it will start to show.
Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances
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Ronaldo has played more. Didn't really want to compare him because he is a freak and has always been in absolute peak condition. Rooney clearly hasn't looked after himself as well and it will start to show.
A rusty performance from someone who hasn't played in a while and the usual morons crawl out of the long grass saying he's finished at 28 years old. Awesome stuff, redcafe. Well played.
The lethargic, slow play isn't just when he's back from injury. It happened throughout last season and I can't see how you fail to see it.
Good to have a chuckle at the reaction after he has a poor game.
The Rooney fan boys refuse to notice his flaws despite the evidence on show every game.
I don't know if I am a 'fan boy' but I rate Rooney but I am the first to highlight his flaws, I just don't magnify his every step like his doubters do.
The evidence is there for all to see, his becoming increasingly lethargic and it's not his weight his overall game is getting slower with each season.
Yes, I didn't say otherwise. I'm just saying I won't sit there waiting to pounce on any mistake he makes. I think he is passed his best, as a lot of players do at some point in their career. He has done well for us though and is still a top player.
I suppose we should point out to how relevant gym work is to a footballers results on the pitch by pointing out Danny Welbeck and Micah Richards stunning world class performances over the years.
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There's no denying he isn't a top player but his consistency is getting worst, his a moments player these days.
Rooney disregarded gym work all together, no matter what sport you play it is important.
Where do you get he disregarded gym work all together?
Yep Pogue the bashing Rooney takes when you consider he's on course to become our top ever goal scorer is unreal. I remember Giggs went through a period of abuse that was similar. Rooney along with DDG was our best player last year end of.
Nobody has ever said that, and he certainly wouldn't get away with doing no Gym work at all.
Scholes a moron too? Scholes said Rooney peaked a few years ago and Ferguson was trying to push him out of the club. Many signs that the high profile figures around him knew that his days are numbered at the highest level.
No gym work 
He was shite last night. He ruins the tempo at #10, always does. He's just terribly predictable and not for the first time, the team looked that bit more free when he went off. He's an excellent striker, he just isn't a playmaker. It's so frustrating to watch.
Who has said he is finished? All I've seen are people saying he played poorly...again...and concerns that if he has a poor World Cup, which in entirely possible, that he will have a poor start for us next season because he will be dwelling on it. I've said for a long time I don't believe he has the mental strength of a ronaldo or beckham, players who when facing a huge backlash from the country in general went on to have some of their best seasons ever, when Rooney is having (usually self inflicted) off field issues in the past his performances go to shit. That's not opinion that is fact.
Vital to England's chances (however slim) that he doesn't play in that position vs Italy. Somebody is needed to track/disrupt Pirlo, and Rooney certainly isn't the man for that job.
Scholes has not said that. Read his Paddy Power column. All he said was that Rooney might have peaked due to the amount of football he played as a teenager.
The column is actually not really critical of Rooney. I doubt many people on the CAF have read it. It certainly does not support the statement you have made.
Nowhere does Scholes say Rooney's days are numbered at the highest level. He actually says Rooney has the ability to replace Scholes in his old position for United when he gets older and that England need to get the best out of him in the world cup.
Danny Welbeck is whilst arguments could be made for Barkley but I haven't observed his pressing/defensive game to form a sound opinion . I also do not think that Welbeck can be relied upon, from an attacking perspective, to utilise the few chances that will come England's way .
He will have another poor world cup. He just isn't a number ten. Not a world class anyway. Very good striker though. I hope LvG will see that.
I don't think he is finished I think he was never that good to begin with. I have noticed, however, that more and more people are realizing this and are now becoming increasingly vocal. To criticize Rooney before was considered heresy and to some it still is but as time goes by more people are expressing doubts on his usefulness to the team.
After he yet again fails at the WC even more will see the light. I really believe we can play great football if Rooney is not central to our play.
For the good of the team he should be benched or somehow traded.
After he yet again fails at the WC even more will see the light. I really believe we can play great football if Rooney is not central to our play.
For the good of the team he should be benched or somehow traded.
Maybe we'll see LUHR scarves soon.
I don't hate him just don't want him to be integral to utd's game plan. He is not good enough. When surrounded by good players he can hold his own but in my mind never was world class and never good enough to be or main player.
Another thing as much as I love fergie, for all what he has done for us, he created a monster by stating that Rooney needs a run of games to regain his form. This excuse, to my recollection, has never been afforded to any other player. I think Fergie said that to protect Rooney and the media and fans bought into it.
It's funny, Rooney is bad fro United, yet the guy is our best scorer and has more assists. He also the one of the most productive players in PL if you consider the last three years. Rooney is supposedly bad for England, yet somehow he is a top scorer in the qualifying group. And Rooney comes on top if you only consider big matches there, not San Marino and Moldova. So while he is lazy, don't work in the gym, his play is lethargic, somehow he actually delivers goals and assists.
While some of a supposedly "great" players, with supposedly "good" technique and "good" first touch can't even score for a whole season. But hey, as long as they have excuse, right...
While some of a supposedly "great" players, with supposedly "good" technique and "good" first touch can't even score for a whole season. But hey, as long as they have excuse, right...
Any good player if made the main man at Utd will score a lot and make plenty of assists.
I think people would be more impressed if he were a top scorer in the main event ( World cup ) rather that the qualifiers.
I don't know his training habits so I cant comment on them but I do know that his skill level on the pitch is over-rated. Some just see his high work rate and equate that with brilliance. I do not.
I think people would be more impressed if he were a top scorer in the main event ( World cup ) rather that the qualifiers.
I don't know his training habits so I cant comment on them but I do know that his skill level on the pitch is over-rated. Some just see his high work rate and equate that with brilliance. I do not.
He's just not good enough to play that Number 10 role, it's got feck all to do with a lack of trying, or lack of fitness, he simply doesn't have it in his locker.
Why are people constantly using that same old chestnut that 'he's just lacking fitness' or that he 'needs more games' and he'll deliver. It's getting tedious.
Why are people constantly using that same old chestnut that 'he's just lacking fitness' or that he 'needs more games' and he'll deliver. It's getting tedious.
The one where he was still young from about 5 years ago..
I reckon when you allow for the fact that he's a serial chain smoker, fat drunk scouser, making plans to coerce more money from United rather than going to the bloody gym, playing in a position that he's apparently shit at etc.. he's done a quite a job to be our 3rd highest scorer of all time.
That Rooney doesn't exist anymore unfortunately. I still see him as lost potential he could have been so much more.
Whatever Rooney has left to give, it will likely be at club level (hopefully away from United), not internationally. Hodgson should have learned a lesson from the Klinsman/Donovan example and dropped Rooney from the England squad altogether.
His overall consistency has dropped significantly since the second half of the 11/12 campaign.
And do what instead, rely on Sturridge as a lone striker and bring Barkley in or something?
Cannot actually believe people don't think Rooney is worth a start for England!
How do you quantify "consistency"? What exactly does it mean it for you?
Rooney takes penalties, freekicks and corners which count for a large portion of his goals/assists, similar to Gerrard but from open play he's declined significantly.
Which great players haven't scored for an entire season are you referring to?
Performing at a high level. His stats IMO are often misleading you look at his in the 12/13 campaign they were good for someone who was often out of position but most would agree he had a poor season based on performances. He should at least reach the level of Suarez/Aguero but how often do those performances come around from Rooney these days? Rarely. These days his to hot and cold, he consistently picks up niggling injuries which then take him 3-4 games to get back in form.
That's a wrong perception.If you actually see the numbers, you will learn that for example only 4 of his 15 assists in PL and UCL came from a set pieces. That's not even a third. Also he does not take free kicks for England and still scores more than anyone. He only scored penalties in these second-rate matches that i did not take into account anyway.
I would play Wilshere or Lallana there instead of Rooney. An extra man in midfield against the better teams is a necessity IMO.
In Euro 2012, England played with Welbeck and Rooney up front, instead of Sturridge and Rooney and it was a tactical failure. Pirlo was left unmarked and given a golden ticket to control the entire game without any designated marker.
Anyone who thinks that in two weeks, England should be starting with Sturridge and Rooney up front together against Italy in Manaus is a clown.
Don't forget he is only 13 goals away from being the premierships 2nd highest goal scorer of all time as well.
3 away from being 3rd I do believe.
Not bad for a fat, chain smoking, drunken, unfit, talentless spud faced scouse mercenary.
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