We all know it takes him at least 7-8 games to get any form of sharpness back.
He's gonna be utterly shite at the World Cup as ever.
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We all know it takes him at least 7-8 games to get any form of sharpness back.
He's gonna be utterly shite at the World Cup as ever.
He'll score in this World Cup I reckon. Hopefully against Italy if we actually see any of the ball this time.
Why... isn't it not a problem then for United as long as he's fit for our next season. Haha... But for sure we want him to do well for our country and it boosts his confidence when he comes back
Scholes can see it, he's said it, Fergie saw it, a lot of us saw it, question is when will England and Hodgson finally realise this guy just isn't that good. He buried any tempo this English team had, he sees himself as some sort of attacking midfield maestro, but he moves like a snail, ugly first touch, terrible close control. England looked better when he went off. If you're not going to play him as a poacher, don't play him at all.
It's strange, he looks in very good shape, slimmest I've seen him in a while yet he seems incredibly sluggish and lethargic. Maybe that's just down to the lack of game time but I really hope he finds his form by the start of next season.
100% agree, Let's hope Van Gaal sees it as well.
I cant wait to hear the upcoming excuses when, as usual, he fails to deliver at the WC. " He never truly got over that groin injury that made him miss Utd last few games", " He just did not have enough time to regain his form. Everyone knows a man of Rooney's skill needs a certain amount of games to recover his World Class form ", "Unlucky" etc.
I have never heard so many excuses made on behalf of a player before. HIs diehard fans want him to be world class so much that they self-delude.
Its like the Emperor's New Clothes. People see in him a skill level that is simply not there.
I love Utd, much of my sad life revolves around the club. There is no way I would come down hard on one of ours if I did not truly believe he deserved it.
Rooney in his early pro career was a potential great. It never materialized and is now merely grossly over-rated.
England will fare better if he is on their bench come the WC and dare I say come the new season, so shall we.
I have never heard so many excuses made on behalf of a player before. HIs diehard fans want him to be world class so much that they self-delude.
Its like the Emperor's New Clothes. People see in him a skill level that is simply not there.
I love Utd, much of my sad life revolves around the club. There is no way I would come down hard on one of ours if I did not truly believe he deserved it.
Rooney in his early pro career was a potential great. It never materialized and is now merely grossly over-rated.
England will fare better if he is on their bench come the WC and dare I say come the new season, so shall we.
Why couldn't Ferguson stay on one more season just to sell Rooney.
Van Gaal will be smart enough to see if it hadn't been for Rooney we'd be below tenth in the premier league table. He's a world class player.
His form at the start of the season was grossly overrated, I can't recall many games that even reached a world class standard. He also had some rubbish performances against Southampton, West Brom and Sunderland.
Van Gaal will favor our more technically gifted players, which Rooney lacks in large supply. His not our best striker nor our best no.10, Van Gaal won't shoehorn him into the team if he doesn't fit in he'll be sold or warm the bench.
Disagree, Rooney lacks consistency to be considered world class one good game in five.
Let's not go overboard here. I'm not a massive Rooney fan but...
A) He is clearly still one of our best players, B) he was clearly one of our best players this season (though that isn't a particularly high standard it must be said) and C) LVG is extremely unlikely to drop one of our most intelligent and gifted players if he can in any way help it.
Is Rooney inconsistent? Yes. Is he one of the very best players in the world? Of course not. He is still at least our fourth best player though, so he is likely to be given every opportunity to find a place in LVG's team.
A) He is clearly still one of our best players, B) he was clearly one of our best players this season (though that isn't a particularly high standard it must be said) and C) LVG is extremely unlikely to drop one of our most intelligent and gifted players if he can in any way help it.
Is Rooney inconsistent? Yes. Is he one of the very best players in the world? Of course not. He is still at least our fourth best player though, so he is likely to be given every opportunity to find a place in LVG's team.
Besides, I'd think the nature of his contract more-or-less guarantees that if LVG takes him on, there'd only be one winner: Wayne.
He can literally take a dump on the pitch and the pro-Rooney fanboys will come out and defend him. He has been a sporadic 'top class' footballer for a while and nowhere near world class. No footballer in the upper brackets has bad days like his. The only position he should play now ever is the number 9 ; never a number 10 again, or some experiment to convert him to midfield because I can see that failing. Without him this season we would probably be 10th or 11th, not that it means a lot because 7th is still shite and means that our approach to football needs to be revamped, which we can easily do without him. Its the same old shit with him, plays good, gets usual inevitable injury and plays completely wank for the next few games.
If he maintained or even improved that first half of the season form, I would have no complaints at all. The problem is he can't and won't do that ever again.
If he maintained or even improved that first half of the season form, I would have no complaints at all. The problem is he can't and won't do that ever again.
I wonder whether he was told to ease himself back in to it today.......
Nevertheless a few shocking first touches and unnecessary long passes which gave the ball away, nearly resulting in opposition goals on occasion.
Nevertheless a few shocking first touches and unnecessary long passes which gave the ball away, nearly resulting in opposition goals on occasion.
Well he has excuses:- "still looks weighed down by England expectation" and " ominously rusty ". Courtesy of the Guardian.
I just think he's past his physical peak. As already mentioned he doesn't look overweight or injured he just looks slow. You can blame match fitness but he's the same for United throughout the season and it won't change. He's lost his pace and his explosiveness and he considering he was never that nimble it looks even worse. He shouldn't be trying to cover every blade of grass and he should be up top. Unfortunately for him, Van Persie is a better striker and Sturridge has had a much better season. Mata is also a better 10 for us and I think it's pretty stupid that we've backed ourselves into a corner with giving him a ridiculous contract that means we basically have to play him.
Just using an example of someone who has scored goals well into their thirties, Antonio Di Natale at 36 has played 669 game including internationals compared to Rooney at 28 who has played 607. Would it really be a surprise if he didn't last as long as others?
Just using an example of someone who has scored goals well into their thirties, Antonio Di Natale at 36 has played 669 game including internationals compared to Rooney at 28 who has played 607. Would it really be a surprise if he didn't last as long as others?
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I don't think Van Gaal will see it that way, he won't care how much money his on he'll do what's best if Rooney doesn't fit into the team then he doesn't play.
I said it then, will say it now: Rooney has been declining since 2010. I just wish United would see that. SAF saw it in his last year.
Time will tell. I'm confident Van Gaal knows he is vital for this team. I think he is our best striker and after Mata, our best number ten.
Disagree, Van Persie is our best striker because he plays the role better. When Rooney plays up front he often drops to deep and gets in the way of Mata who then has no to pass to up front.
I'm sure Van Gaal will experiment to try and get the best out of both of them, but we've seen on a number of occasions the connection between the two is non existent.
If I was Roy I'd drop him.
It's a shame so many fans were riding Moyes and looking for something to jump on him from day one or that contract may never have happened.
The problem for us is if he has a shit World Cup he will get the hump and spend the first three months of next season dwelling on it
Rooney doesn't have the guile or technical ability to be playing in the No.10 role. For me he's either a striker or nothing. It will be interesting to see what Van Gaal makes of it.
Unless Van Gaal goes 4-4-2 it's extremely unlikely Rooney will be played as a striker with Van Persie here, Van Gaal will either experiment to get the best out of both of them or Rooney needs to adapt.
You can't compare them. For some systems, Rooney up top works better and for other systems Van Persie.
What systems does Rooney work better in as striker?
I know!
One where RVP is injured.
Any system which requires a playmaking striker. 4-3-3 with a DM-CM-CM as it leaves room for the striker to step down without entering a congested area already occupied by an AM and possibly inside forwards who cuts in.
Like Barcelona with Messi, Dortmund with Lewandowski or PSG with Zlatan. When the false-9 steps down to act playmaker the wingers suddenly become more like forwards and attack the box with runs.
Simple and effective, as the CB's has to follow the false-9 down in the pitch just behind the CM's - there is loads of room behind them and the wingers runs in to that area.
Tenth and seventh, what's the difference really when the overall effect is massive underachievement ?
Problem is that Rooney is a good level or two behind those players.
Then he will have a big problem because I don't see Van Gaal indulging him, not when he needs to hit the ground running and especially when he has capable replacements within the squad . He would be in danger of losing his place and if that happens then someone like Mata has the talent and productivity to shut him out for a long time .
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how many games has Ronaldo played compared to Rooney? Probably quite a number of players who were or are still performing like spring chickens around Roonry's age and have played a similar amount of games.
Rooney has a shit physique and rubbish genes. Couple that with his laziness compared to Ronaldo and you get this useless lump at 28 years old.
We persevered with him in the last World Cup and against Italy in the Euros. It's time to drop him before we tactically get it wrong for the 3rd tournament in a row, all due to the managers lack of balls to drop Rooney.
He's been an issue for England for far too long now IMO..
His physique hasn't been help by the constant metatarsal injuries throughout the years, lost a yard or so of pace from them all.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...nchester-United-fitness-coach-Mick-Clegg.html
Says it all really. It'll be interesting to see how Van Gaal deals with Rooney if he turns up for pre season over weight.
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