Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances

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While I sympathise with Wayne, what did he expect?

No sense of irony for our Wayne. Probably the exact same journalists who'll be bigging him up as one of the world's elite footballers in these weeks leading up to the World Cup.

The lad should be worshipping those journalists.
 
No sense of irony for our Wayne. Probably the exact same journalists who'll be bigging him up as one of the world's elite footballers in these weeks leading up to the World Cup.

The lad should be worshipping those journalists.

So yeah, Wayne Rooney is responsible for thick Journos and is supposed to take the crap from them. Alright then...:rolleyes:
 
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No I'm not disputing the low-life paparazzi style actions of some journalists. I'm just saying, you have to take the rough with the smooth and Rooney more than anyone else has benefited from the journalists who consistently pour out the myth of his 'elite' ability.

Oh yeah, he's being hypocritical, no doubt.
 
So yeah, Wayne Rooney is responsible for thick Journos and is suppose to take the crap for them. Alright then...:rolleyes:

I have no idea what your point is.

Here's another question. Do you think Rooney is the only footballer who gets followed?

No he isn't. He's also been 'famous' for a long time now. He's being an attention seeking twat on twitter, nothing more. Probably just bored lying by a pool.
 
I have no idea what your point is.

Here's another question. Do you think Rooney is the only footballer who gets followed?

No he isn't. He's also been 'famous' for a long time now. He's being an attention seeking twat on twitter, nothing more. Probably just bored lying by a pool.

You somehow seem to think that the attention the media give him is Rooney's fault or he's responsible for it. He's not. The media are hypocritical thick twats love nothing more than hyping players up before bringing them back down.

He doesn't like media following him around when he's with his children=Rooney being an attention seeking twat. Jesus wept.
 
Perhaps he wants a cold pint without the 'papers reporting a variant of:

'Roo deserve it! Our Wayne relaxes with a strength-building Drink' or...
'Wasteman Wayne glugs away England's World Cup Hopes! (the Bastard)'
 
I wonder how Wayne will deal with losing his golden child status under van Gaal. To his strike partner no less.
 
Perhaps he wants a cold pint without the 'papers reporting a variant of:

'Roo deserve it! Our Wayne relaxes with a strength-building Drink' or...
'Wasteman Wayne glugs away England's World Cup Hopes! (the Bastard)'

:lol:

"NIGHTMARE! Colleen beats Wayne at Mini Golf. Hodgson Concerned."
 
'Hero Hectic returns to the Caf' :)
 


In part i suspect that this is a consequence of the Vegas debacle, the press sniffing out any evidence of a repeat.

The Rooneys might also have reached some sort of deal with Fleet Street as a whole, a few set piece photo ops at the start in exchange for something resembling privacy thereafter.
 
No I'm not disputing the low-life paparazzi style actions of some journalists. I'm just saying, you have to take the rough with the smooth and Rooney more than anyone else has benefited from the journalists who consistently pour out the myth of his 'elite' ability.
That's bullshit.

A) Sports columnists/Journalists are not paparazzi, you are confused.
B) Just because someone does one thing that benefits you (loosely?) does not mean they are entitled to do whatever they like.
C) The equivalent of sports Journalists giving him praise for his football would be sports Journalists calling him out for a bad match... Which no one is arguing against. We're talking about Rooney relaxing with his wife and children playing minigolf...
 
He has been followed while getting take away in manchester. Not sure what he expects during a World Cup year, especially when he is postin training videos on YouTube.
He's not posting videos of his wife on the beach is she? I think I once posted a video on youtube? Perhaps the I am now 'game' to be followed around since I clearly asked for it..

I don't think expecting that stuff makes it any better, he never said he was surprised, but clearly would like some peace every now and again. Should be easier to get abroad but if Paparazzi are flying out to follow him... It's the dailymail too.
 
He wants to be left alone whilst on holiday and he's an attention seeking twat? Alright then.

Cracking rebuttal there. Reeling from that.

Again, how often has been away on holiday since he's been in the 'spotlight'? Quite a bit imagine. How often did 'people' (feck it, let's generalise it) follow him and take photographs? I'd guess, every single time.

That's bullshit.

A) Sports columnists/Journalists are not paparazzi, you are confused.
B) Just because someone does one thing that benefits you (loosely?) does not mean they are entitled to do whatever they like.
C) The equivalent of sports Journalists giving him praise for his football would be sports Journalists calling him out for a bad match... Which no one is arguing against. We're talking about Rooney relaxing with his wife and children playing minigolf...

Your points are whats bullshit.

Addressing them:

A) I never said they were paparazzi, so learn to read.
B) I was never addressing whether or not the actions of following celebrities around is right or wrong. I think it is generally a pathetic excuse for a living but that's completely besides the point.
C) You're arguing about semantics here for the sake of it. The point is, Rooney has been getting followed for years now. He's aware of what his life is like and what to expect when he's away (if he hasn't learnt to expect that by now he must be more dumb than any of us can imagine.) Him bitching about people following him and taking pictures given his fame, is the equivalent of me tweeting about how shite the weather is here in Belfast. No one cares.
 
Cracking rebuttal there. Reeling from that.

Again, how often has been away on holiday since he's been in the 'spotlight'? Quite a bit imagine. How often did 'people' (feck it, let's generalise it) follow him and take photographs? I'd guess, every single time.

And what exactly in that tweet makes Rooney an attention seeking twat?
 
I assume it could get very aggravating and uncomfortable, why wouldn't I show them some sympathy?

I'd deal as well, like Rooney does too, and he probably does it extremely well. He's just offering his opinion that what they do is shit.
 
Well it's rather obvious. He's looking sympathy for something every 'celebrity' has to deal with.

I'd deal with it for £250,000 a week.

What an utterly bizarre post.

So, all celebrities complaining about unwelcome media are attention seeking twats. And because they earn a lot of money they should just put up with it in silence and be precluded from any sympathy.
 
Cracking rebuttal there. Reeling from that.
Zzzzzzz..

I'd guess, every single time.
What does that matter?


A) I never said they were paparazzi, so learn to read.
No sense of irony for our Wayne. Probably the exact same journalists who'll be bigging him up as one of the world's elite footballers in these weeks leading up to the World Cup.

The lad should be worshipping those journalists.
I think you struggle remembering what you have written yourself. You said the exact same Journalists. Now you never said they were the same?
B) I was never addressing whether or not the actions of following celebrities around is right or wrong. I think it is generally a pathetic excuse for a living but that's completely besides the point.
You call it pathetic, Rooney calls it disgusting. Whats the difference? You attention seeking twat.
C) You're arguing about semantics here for the sake of it. The point is, Rooney has been getting followed for years now. He's aware of what his life is like and what to expect when he's away (if he hasn't learnt to expect that by now he must be more dumb than any of us can imagine.) Him bitching about people following him and taking pictures given his fame, is the equivalent of me tweeting about how shite the weather is here in Belfast. No one cares.
Already addressed this before. He's not surprised, he sick of it.
 
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No sense of irony for our Wayne. Probably the exact same journalists who'll be bigging him up as one of the world's elite footballers in these weeks leading up to the World Cup.

The lad should be worshipping those journalists.

Nonsense. It's the dick head reporters/paparazzi from the "Entertainment" pages that will be out there following him rather than the sports reporters.

They are there to get a picture of him enjoying a nice cold pint or having a ciggy so they can hang him out to dry before the tournament has even started.
 
We have to stop this whole "they have to take the rough with the smooth" bullshit when it comes to celebrities and paparazzi.

feck that. It's just a lie the press has fed us to stop anyone from criticising them.

When paparazzi are filling our newspapers with pointless bollocks, as they do, the whole world would be better off without them.
 
http://talksport.com/football/van-g...eash-claims-dutch-football-expert-14051891740

I'm sure this won't make good reading for Wayne. :)

Just a small segment from the interview.

“I don’t think Wayne Rooney will be able to drink half a lager anywhere around Manchester without Van Gaal knowing, because he’d have to report what time he’d be in bed at night on his laptop.

“He’d have to let him know whether he had spaghetti or chips for dinner, and if he had chips Van Gaal will be ready to meet him the next morning.
 
Maybe he'll thrive under that.

I love this idea of Rooney being massively unprofessional and wasting his talent. The guy will probably be England/United and 2nd in the all time prem top scoring list in the next few years. Yes he's a dick with the transfer stuff but he's still a class player.
 
Ah, it's just some people on some message boards.

I don't see him as a dick with the transfer stuff. We're not loyal to the players, why would they be to us?
 
New StatsBomb analysis of Rooney's career as a whole.

As ever, stats don't tell the whole story, yadda yadda yadda, but it's interesting all the same.

The author takes issue with Scholes' claim that Rooney may have peaked in 2011/12, and present numbers to back it up. Indeed, this past season has been his *third best ever* in terms of goal scoring contributions per 90 minutes. His second best? Last season:

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Now, I would agree that he was better in 2009/10 than he was this season, and last season as well, but in terms of scoring and/or creating goals, he's still been producing some of the better numbers of his career these last couple of years.
 
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And people who say he was much better as a young player . . .

Personally, I think he was more superficially exciting back then, with his charging dribbles and what have you, but not necessarily better. And I reckon there's a tendency for people to remember that era based on the highlight reels, which obviously don't show you that he was prone to the odd shoddy game then as well.

His average goal scoring contribution per 90 in his first three seasons at United - when he was apparently young, brilliant, exciting Rooney - was 0.71.

His average goal scoring contribution per 90 in his last three seasons at United - when he's apparently been boring, in decline, no longer quite-as-good Rooney - has been 0.87.

More productive over his last three years than his first, then.

And I don't think he's much less exciting than he was anyway. He can still volley goals in from the half way line, smash them into the top corner from 25 yards, etc.

It's just that maybe the novelty has worn off somewhat now, and the unexpected has become the expected.
 
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And people who say he was much better as a young player . . .

Personally, I think he was more superficially exciting back then, with his charging dribbles and what have you, but not necessarily better. And I reckon there's a tendency for people to remember that era based on the highlight reels, which obviously don't show you that he was prone to the odd shoddy game then as well.

His average goal scoring contribution per 90 in his first three seasons at United - when he was apparently young, brilliant, exciting Rooney - was 0.45.

His average goal scoring contribution per 90 in his last three seasons at United - when he's apparently been boring, in decline, no longer quite-as-good Rooney - has been 0.87.

Almost *twice as productive* over his last three years than his first, then.

And I don't think he's much less exciting than he was anyway. He can still volley goals in from the half way line, smash them into the top corner from 25 yards, etc.

It's just that maybe the novelty has worn off somewhat now, and the unexpected has become the expected.

If only football was so simple, summing up 6 seasons worth with 2 numbers.
 
If only football was so simple, summing up 6 seasons worth with 2 numbers.

Which is why I said the stats don't tell the full story. But they are what they are, and just in terms of base productivity, he's much better now than he was as a young player.
 
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