Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances

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Pexbo said:
Does anybody else have a feeling we might sell him this summer?
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A feeling - definitely.

I've a feeling there's a fair bit of internal strife going on at Old Trafford at the moment. I can't make full sense of it - at all - but if you look at the following factors:

a) We're apparently keen on buying Cavani

b) We're apparantly hiring van Gaal, who likes RVP very much.

c) Rooney was/is a Moyes man.

...it doesn't look particularly good for Rooney.

But feck knows. Everything is just whispers at the moment.
 
Chesterlestreet said:
A feeling - definitely.

I've a feeling there's a fair bit of internal strife going on at Old Trafford at the moment. I can't make full sense of it - at all - but if you look at the following factors:

a) We're apparently keen on buying Cavani

b) We're apparantly hiring van Gaal, who likes RVP very much.

c) Rooney was/is a Moyes man.

...it doesn't look particularly good for Rooney.

But feck knows. Everything is just whispers at the moment.
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Is how I see it at the moment. His position has been severely compromised. I think we're now in a position where we can let him go on our terms and bring in a star player that comes without the baggage.
 
pocco said:
I don't think he's nearly as bad as RVP though. Rooney has also been one of our best players this season too. I can't see him leaving unless Van Gaal comes in and just looks out for his mate RVP.
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I agree that Rooney doesn't get injured as often but he takes much longer to get back into form after injury. He has been one of our best performers but I also think he has ranged from decent to poor for much of the second half of the season after his injury around Christmas IMO. He was very good in the first half of the season though.
 
People need to just get over it Rooney is not going anywhere. There is zero chance he leaves this summer. He just signed a new contract and the wages he is on makes him practically immovable. RVP is probably not leaving as well. Since our two biggest rivals have scored 100 goals apiece I really do not think we should get rid of them since they are two of the best goal scorers around.
 
Keeps It tidy said:
People need to just get over it Rooney is not going anywhere. There is zero chance he leaves this summer. He just signed a new contract and the wages he is on makes him practically immovable. RVP is probably not leaving as well. Since our two biggest rivals have scored 100 goals apiece I really do not think we should get rid of them since they are two of the best goal scorers around.
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Rooney could be an important player for us as a sub for RVP. I don't see him starting under LVG.
 
DWelbz19 said:
He isn't on £300k a week.
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Ok, if you're going to be like that: Do you really think Wayne Rooney, a man on £240-300k a week and who has handed in 2 transfer requests, will accept sitting on the bench for the rest of his contract?
 
Suli said:
Ok, if you're going to be like that: Do you really think Wayne Rooney, a man on £240-300k a week and who has handed in 2 transfer requests, will accept sitting on the bench for the rest of his contract?
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Probably not.
 
markhrad said:
I suspect LVG will know how to keep him fit. I think LVG will try rvp, mata, nani and janu as starters.
Who knows maybe Rooney will adapt to fit in
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Yeah, I think Moyes training regime could have been a factor in RVP's injuries this season. He had managed to stay fit for the last 2 and half seasons before this one so I think he'll be okay if the manager doesn't push him too hard. I think LVG might play Rooney/Kagawa, Mata and Januzaj behind him and have the 3 interchanging constantly. I think Nani needs to be moved on at this stage.
 
Suli said:
Ok, if you're going to be like that: Do you really think Wayne Rooney, a man on £240-300k a week and who has handed in 2 transfer requests, will accept sitting on the bench for the rest of his contract?
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He wouldn't be happy about it but I can't see many teams offering him the wages he currently earns and paying a fee that United deem acceptable so he'll have to accept it if he does get dropped.
 
sizzling sausages said:
He wouldn't be happy about it but I can't see many teams offering him the wages he currently earns and paying a fee that United deem acceptable so he'll have to accept it if he does get dropped.
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That's the issue though, we can't have a guy with those wages on the bench because it's just a complete waste of money. We either need to get rid or find a way of making it work.
 
Suli said:
That's the issue though, we can't have a guy with those wages on the bench because it's just a complete waste of money. We either need to get rid or find a way of making it work.
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Ah, I was only looking at it from Rooney's perspective. Yeah, it would be better to get rid if Van Gaal doesn't rate him.
 
How Van Gaal deals with the VP, Rooney, Mata question will be intriguing.

I'm sure he'll find a better method than Moysie did. Although In fairness, Moyes didn't have a huge amount of games where he had the three of them available at the same time.
 
Suli said:
That's the issue though, we can't have a guy with those wages on the bench because it's just a complete waste of money. We either need to get rid or find a way of making it work.
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I suspect that we'll have greater success in selling Rooney once a year of his contract has elapsed, however in the interim any new manager should copy Fergie's example of 12/13, namely that the player must be deserving of a place in the team wherever that may be.

If Woodward [ably assisted by Moyes at the time] was so keen to tie the club to Rooney then he can damn well take responsibility for it, the last thing we need is LVG or whoever being so constrained by the mistakes of his predecessor.
 
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LvG won't care if Rooney is on 250 k or not. If he starts caring about that, then where does it stop?

* Rooney can't be dropped because of 250 k per week
* RvP neither because of similar wages
* Mata because we broke our transfer record to get him
* New signing because ...

LvG will give everyone a chance and those who are adaptable and willing to learn will manage to play under him. He will also probably not sell big players immediately because of injuries/rotation/players being out of form.
For all of discussions about Rooney/RvP it wouldn't really shock me if one of them got injured during the WC and the other at the beginning of the season. They are both injury prone and it would be typical of them and us.
 
I actually started typing about how i couldn't wait to see how he used Rooney. But then I thought, but I can't wait to see how he uses Mata or Kagawa either. Or Nani, Valencia, Fellaini. Or who we sign. Or how our style changes.

So I thought I can't wait for next season covered it better.
 
Adebesi said:
I actually started typing about how i couldn't wait to see how he used Rooney. But then I thought, but I can't wait to see how he uses Mata or Kagawa either. Or Nani, Valencia, Fellaini. Or who we sign. Or how our style changes.

So I thought I can't wait for next season covered it better.
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Yes but the intrigue will start as soon as a new manager is confirmed.
 
What is his injury? How long is he out?

Yet another injury before an international tournament. Seems like he is cursed.
 
Potentially his last chance of making an impact at a World Cup this, and it looks like he's not leaving anything to chance in regards to his fitness.

He's released this video of him in training already, so is obviously keen to dispel any question marks about it:

 
Hunch: He's off to another club this summer*.



*Actually, my predictions are always wrong.
 
NessunDorma said:
Potentially his last chance of making an impact at a World Cup this, and it looks like he's not leaving anything to chance in regards to his fitness.

He's released this video of him in training already, so is obviously keen to dispel any question marks about it:

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Great to see.

Hopefully under Van Gaal his level of professionalism is kept consistently high.
 
Minimalist said:
Great to see.

Hopefully under Van Gaal his level of professionalism is kept consistently high.
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Although it'd be funny if that was a video of the sum total of the trainig he's done to date, and was filmed immediately prior to him going to the bar for a burger and a few pints.

'Well dere's me exercise aat da way, now time to relax . . . '
 
Like a lazy student cramming for his exams at the last minute...
 
NessunDorma said:
Although it'd be funny if that was a video of the sum total of the trainig he's done to date, and was filmed immediately prior to him going to the bar for a burger and a few pints.

'Well dere's me exercise aat da way, now time to relax . . . '
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Well the body usually doesn't lie. We'll see what he's like in Brazil.

If he rolls up looking heavy as an amateur rugby player we'll know he hasn't been training that hard.
 
Minimalist said:
Well the body usually doesn't lie. We'll see what he's like in Brazil.

If he rolls up looking heavy as an amateur rugby player we'll know he hasn't been training that hard.
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Personally, I think all this talk of him being unfit, and someone who lets himself go during the summer, has got to him a bit. That's why he's not only training during his time off, but wants people to know he is as well. And I reckon if he does want for fitness at the World Cup, it won't be through any kind of neglect of his regime, but niggling injury or general end of season fatigue.
 
There is still a month to go of course, so whilst this is a promising beginning it has to be a lifestyle he buys into over the long term [summer ahead for starters].

If he can be as disciplined on the pitch we might actually see a Rooney England are confident in fielding.
 
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